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The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 09 Dec 2024, 09:19
by Come On You Irons
There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 15:33
by SurfaceAgentX2Zero
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 14:58
I wasn't at the march, Sven, but by all accounts, it's nothing like what Diane Abbot or Narinder Kaur has told you about it.
Have a quick listen to Trevor Phillips about his experience of it (he's quite a big deal in the reporting world if you also haven't heard of him).
Sky News are Raynerite/Starmerite left, along with C4 News, the Guardian and the BBC. Not quite so far left as Corbyn, but pretty damn close. ITV News used to be a bit better, but are sliding down to meet them. The Mirror is now mentalist hard left and the Indie is kind of Greenie/Lib Dem. All independent radio stations seem to take their news bulletins from Sky, so are left as you like.
I would put the DT and Express as centre right and GB News and Talk as full on right (not fucking far right) I barely count the Mail as a newspaper any more - it's just like OK or Hello or some other celebrity obsessed shit now.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 15:31
by Tomshardware
Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 15:02
I bet you don't either, certainly not in London.
Where do you live, for context?
What did you have for lunch today?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 15:30
by XKhammer
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 14:25
Mad Dog
When you are marching along with Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins , Lawrence Fox & a hologram of Elon Musk do you wonder about the company you are keeping?
Many valid points for people to march but it’s dominated by some odd people
Hope you didn’t beat up any police just doing their job
I didn't go on the march because of the people you mentioned(Except Hopkins) but would imagine most of the people there certainly didn't go to keep company with a moron like Fox but making a very valid point about illegals
As for anyone wanting to beat up the police that march was on August bank holiday in Notting Hill
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 15:11
by Tomshardware
North East Essex. My point wasn't particular to where I live. As a nation Obesity is massively on the rise and a huge added strain on the NHS.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 15:02
by Eerie Decent
I bet you don't either, certainly not in London.
Where do you live, for context?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 15:00
by Tomshardware
Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 14:46
Tomshardware wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 14:28
Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 11:21
He makes some valid point about illegal immigration but why does he expect the country to "look after" himself and his veteran kids? What does he mean by "look after"?
This is the problem with modern society. So many people expect freebies and are not willing to graft and contribute to society. They just expect to be takers and to be "looked after".
Expect his son was on a waiting list for housing. Don't want to pressume but if his son was also suffering from mental health problems there are sometimes long waits for services.
Yes there are immigrants on those lists but this country's health service is clogged up with fat lazy unhealthy people who can't be arsed to work and want enough money given them so they can afford their deliveroo from McDonald's.
Look at archive footage of this country pre 1990's. Barely any fatties about. We have followed in

footsteps and it'll only get worse.
What a load of fucking bollocks.
Do yourself a favour, go to any hospital in London and the outskirts. The people you are attacking, will very much be the minority, by some fucking distance. Wanker.
Betting you don't work in the NHS.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 14:58
by Lee Trundle
I wasn't at the march, Sven, but by all accounts, it's nothing like what Diane Abbot or Narinder Kaur has told you about it.
Have a quick listen to Trevor Phillips about his experience of it (he's quite a big deal in the reporting world if you also haven't heard of him).
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 14:49
by BRANDED
GOOD NEWS
Sadiq Khan now earns more than Keir Starmer as London mayor's pay rises to £170,000
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 14:48
by Fauxstralian
collyrob
Yes every march has opportunists who tag along with their own nefarious motives
This however was sold as Tommy Robinson’s march and am guessing Hopkins & Fox were expected
I believe Musks appearance via a screen wasn’t pre advertised
Havent heard what his call for overthrow of the government & exhorting of violence went over but presume it wasn’t rejected by the concerned locals trying to make their valid non violent points
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 14:46
by Eerie Decent
Tomshardware wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 14:28
Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 11:21
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 11:05
Perspective...

I was actually standing a few rows behind these chaps near the scaffolding on that building to the right that people climbed on. Remember that mans face although didn't actually hear this. The song was very moving too just as the heavens opened.
He makes some valid point about illegal immigration but why does he expect the country to "look after" himself and his veteran kids? What does he mean by "look after"?
This is the problem with modern society. So many people expect freebies and are not willing to graft and contribute to society. They just expect to be takers and to be "looked after".
Expect his son was on a waiting list for housing. Don't want to pressume but if his son was also suffering from mental health problems there are sometimes long waits for services.
Yes there are immigrants on those lists but this country's health service is clogged up with fat lazy unhealthy people who can't be arsed to work and want enough money given them so they can afford their deliveroo from McDonald's.
Look at archive footage of this country pre 1990's. Barely any fatties about. We have followed in

footsteps and it'll only get worse.
What a load of fucking bollocks.
Do yourself a favour, go to any hospital in London and the outskirts. The people you are attacking, will very much be the minority, by some fucking distance. Wanker.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 14:43
by Fauxstralian
Trundle
You SURELY were marching
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 14:43
by Mad Dog
You say "let's see the evidence" but are quick to be convinced he must be so far right he makes kirk look like greta thunburg
You have not posted the full empathy quote. You have deliberately misinterpreted it and as I said ignored the "I prefer the term sympathy" part
I said I understood why people may have gone. I also think people like kate Hopkins and fox are fucking morons. I cant see myself ever going on a political march. The one against the board Saturday i do plan to be at however
I'm not right wing, but im definitely not left wing. Frankly Both are deeply flawed. But one thing I am vehemently against is the extremes of both sides. The racist cunts on the right, and the purple haired nose ringed screaming imbeciles on the left. I try to see oth sides and make my own judgement. I'm not beholden to anyone else's views. I think what I want to think, not what im supposed to think based off an idology
And no, violence isn't the answer to this. What IS going to happen is reform will be voted in by a lot of disenfranchised people who feel they are being ignored.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 14:41
by collyrob
“As said a march with some valid points has been hijacked by those with extreme motives”
every protest, march, demonstration is going to have headbangers on either side. Do you just cancel because they join in?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 14:41
by Fauxstralian
People seem to delight in calling me dumb … I am just asking for proof of motive
Proof not a yearning to see the ‘other lot’ guilty
Hadn’t heard of Charlie Kirk or Nick Fuentes last week so just curious as to what’s gone on in the mind of Tyler Robinson
I see JD Vance the hillbilly Vice P reckons anyone who is nasty about Kirk should be hounded out of society
Cancelled & have no right to FREE SPEECH
Ironic, no?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 14:41
by Lee Trundle
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 14:25
marching along with Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins , Lawrence Fox & a hologram of Elon Musk
*looks at Sven marching with Narinder Kaur, India Willoughby and Greta Thunberg and laughs*
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 14:32
by Fauxstralian
Yes it’s possible people rebel against family views … let’s see the evidence
The full empathy quote was posted .. and as many said his logic is flawed. Of course people can have empathy
You mentioned the march but didn’t attend
Yet you know why people marched … including the nutters Robinson , Hopkins & Fox. Do you agree with THEIR views?
As said a march with some valid points has been hijacked by those with extreme motives
Did the S African Musk call for the overthrow of the government & incite violence?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 14:28
by Tomshardware
Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 11:21
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 11:05
Perspective...

I was actually standing a few rows behind these chaps near the scaffolding on that building to the right that people climbed on. Remember that mans face although didn't actually hear this. The song was very moving too just as the heavens opened.
He makes some valid point about illegal immigration but why does he expect the country to "look after" himself and his veteran kids? What does he mean by "look after"?
This is the problem with modern society. So many people expect freebies and are not willing to graft and contribute to society. They just expect to be takers and to be "looked after".
Expect his son was on a waiting list for housing. Don't want to pressume but if his son was also suffering from mental health problems there are sometimes long waits for services.
Yes there are immigrants on those lists but this country's health service is clogged up with fat lazy unhealthy people who can't be arsed to work and want enough money given them so they can afford their deliveroo from McDonald's.
Look at archive footage of this country pre 1990's. Barely any fatties about. We have followed in

footsteps and it'll only get worse.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 14:26
by Mad Dog
I didnt go on the March, who told you i did?
And I've said on this thread I dont like robinson and I imagine a lot of people didn't go as they dont want to be associated with him
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 14:25
by Fauxstralian
Mad Dog
When you are marching along with Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins , Lawrence Fox & a hologram of Elon Musk do you wonder about the company you are keeping?
Many valid points for people to march but it’s dominated by some odd people
Hope you didn’t beat up any police just doing their job
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 14:24
by Mad Dog
This is one of the many posts you've decided to ignore
I had to scroll back a whole page to find it
"The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)15 Sep 2025 15:55
Faux
OK so youre either a troll or one of the dumbest people on here... or both
Once again answer my points
1) Is it not possible for a somone in the same family to have a different view to the rest of his family?
2) what is the FULL empathy quote, this time dont forget the bit about sympathy?
Post it here... actually read it
I doubt you'll respond to either point properly"
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 14:23
by Mad Dog
I have done about 3 times
Scroll through the thread
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 14:21
by Fauxstralian
Mad Dog
Points?
Put them all together on one cry wank post & I will take a look if I get time
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 14:19
by Mad Dog
Regarding the March, I think a lot of it is people
have had enough of being told they should be ashamed of who they are, that its wrong to be British, wrong to be white, wrong to be straight, wrong to have British values.
My word we're being told our flag is racist. Go anywhere else in the world and tell them that flying their flag is racist, they'll look at you like youre insane. But its been that way for years. Remember that mp insulting that white van man for it
People are fed up of this narrative and the media's attitude to it
Sadiqq khan, and a load of the lefties cant comprehend this for some reason so it must be racist.
I think the silent majority are starting to get pissed off and are finding their voices
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 14:16
by Russ of the BML
OK_Guy wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 13:03
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025, 08:08
What cracks me up about the thick cunts in charge, is they (Labour and many EU Leaders) don't even make a serious attempt to try and look like they're tackling the issue. So it makes it more likely for Starmer and Labour to be removed, rather than give the soppy proletariat something to cling on to thinking they're making a difference even when they know they're not. And in by doing so, they will be out of power for an incredibly long time the way it is developing, or indeed the eventual collapse of the EU which has been struggling for over a decade now. Proper thick strategy as the people in my opinion will eventually rip this entire political sham up and put even more unpalatable characters in power they really dislike.
The people across the continent have clearly had enough with huge protests popping up all over and in the biggest Countries of them all like the UK, France and Spain. In a way now, I'm kind of pleased their arrogance to the situation has exposed themselves so everyone can see what's really going on and will vote accordingly in future. I don't see either the Labour Party or the Conservatives getting back in to power in this Country for a very long time.
imho, immigration has been ignored by the Establishment & MSN since Bliar opened the doors in 2003, everything & everything was the excuse to allow unfettered immigration (jobs that Brits wouldn't do?), when in fact it was a political construct to keep New-Labour in power (as admitted by Ed Milliband in 2011/12). The Tories oversaw another steep increase in immigration and blamed everything on the EU.
Then the EU vote came along, for the first time in decades the the Council-Estates & the Disaffected turned up & voted and Brexit happened (immigration was the main worry)... the Establishment then doubled-down ignoring peoples concerns.
Still the Establishment are using every trick in the book to not do anything, they blame the ECHR, the far-right (what far-right?, the Antifa fascist?), France, bigots & racist. People think Farage is the answer, imo, he's a one-trick pony (Brexit) who is coming out with some batshit ideas. By allowing former 'failed' Tories into the Reform ranks, you kinda know same old, same old bullshit will reign supreme. Notice Farage has gone quiet over the TR-Event, he can't claim it because he wasn't invited.
I'm not a lover of Tommy Robinson but fuck-my he lit a fire on Saturday... the Left are doing their utmost to discredit the Event, by dissing the number of people in attendance & call violence started by the Plod a right-wing uprising comparable to the National-Front or British-Movement from the 70's. Farage is in a state of panic, he has a rival party it would appear & it's not the Tories.
You ignore the people at your expense or political demise, the Establishment are about to learn some hard facts... it's the people standing-up and finding their voice, where it will lead?, who knows.
Where will it lead? I reckon the electing of a right wing party. Which, in all honesty, would be a shame. The Conservatives lost their way and conserved nothing. People in this country, just like across Europe, are demanding their culture, traditions and national identity are respected and honoured. They want their countries back. And in the UK, had the Conservatives stuck to their traditional roots, then their would be a good balance between national identity and diversity. For too long, traditional Brits have been told to keep quiet and know their place through the fear of being labelled a racist. All whilst mass immigration has grown out of control and illegal immigrants continue to flood in. With none of these migrants without even in the slightest interest in British culture. All allowed by governments too weak through fear of being labelled a racist party. Now the straw has broken the camel's back. The next election will be interesting.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Sep 2025, 14:14
by Mad Dog
Faux, any danger of you responding to ANY of my points?