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"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."

Social contagion is exactly what it is and it is the result of a concerted propaganda campaign.

"Fifth, further to your post, from a Grauniad piece: ""The NHS service at Tavistock, to which those under the age of 18 with concerns about their gender are referred for treatment, has had a surge in demand from 77 in 2009 to 2,590 in 2018-19"" This isn't organic, its social contagion."

"You questioned if there is a movement pushing medical transitioning on children. I have given you examples of how this absolutely is happening. ""what is the problem with explaining to people that sometimes boys find other boys attractive and may indeed want to be women in their behaviour? What door exactly does it open?"" I answered your question - the problem is that it leads to children being encouraged to transition because they're told if they fail to adhere to sexist stereotypes then they're ""born in the wrong body"". ""want to be women in their behaviour""? What does that even mean? Does being a woman mean wearing a dress? Or not getting into fights? Or doing a funny head tilt? Or pretending to be ditzy? You can't define ""woman"" by behaviour as that is basically saying if you meet the stereotype of a woman then you're a woman. It's fundamentally right wing, sexist concept. This leads to girls in particular being pushed to take puberty blockers. Puberty blockers routinely lead to sterilisation, inability to have sex or orgasm as adults, lower bone density. You are effectively supporting all these things Pickle even if you don't realise you are by defending something you don't understand."

Pickle try to change 1 of the Karate instruktors childs from boy to girl out of spyte. He get punch in froat

Calm down. I’m not supporting any of those things. What I am interested in is promoting respect for diversity and individual choice.

Pickle Google the Cass review which is an official interim report on the NHS pushing gender transitioning to children. Google Dr Michael. Webberley who has been struck off for providing medical transitions to children beyond his expertise as a private doctor. Google the support for children being given irreversible puberty blockers by Mermaids and other activist groups actively and openly supporting the medical transition of children. Read Irreversible Damage by the author Shrier. There is copious evidence of all of this in the public domain. I am a lifelong lefty. Not reactionary. You are supporting the sterilisation of children who would grow up to be healthy gay adults and many autistic children.

Pickle it’s your country of residence that is uptight about all sorts of things that are now accepted in the U.K. You are never listened to on here purely because you live a country that is out of touch with a modern multicultural society like ours…..you probably think ‘trans’ is something to do with a Siberian train service….

"I suspect it is just another one these discourses shared by uptight reactionaries like you, and absolutely nothing real at all."

Arf!

Pickle arsk me can he get emprors new cloves in sportsdirect and he get slazenger 3/4 lenf trowsers?

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I admit I am not aware of a “gender identity movement” forcing children to have sex changes. Is it real?

"*shrugs* Your theory is that our response to trans bollocks is a product of our deep seated and denied inadequacy. Mine explanation is far simpler: we know nonsense when we see it. But yeah, you can see the emperor's clothes and we can't. Bully for you."

"Pickle You show zero understanding of the issue. Gender identity movement is fundamentally homophobic and sexist. Prior to medicalisation of children questioning their gender, 90% of children would grow out of their feelings of disphoria and a huge percentage would become gay adults. Today they are pushed to have double mastecomies or be effectively castrated with a lifetime of medical and mental health issues. The whole thing is lunacy and people on the left who defend it are effectively advocating for lifelong medical problems mainly for people who are same SEX attracted."

"""If this is to be about me"" LOL"

"If this is to be about me, then these are my views. It is a shame don’t seem to have much of your own to add to the debate, Ratched. But that’s not exactly anything new, is it."

The razor is regarding your wafflry about why we are responding to the trans bollocks the way we are.

"It’s not Occam’s Razor principle because identity, emotions, drives and behaviour aren’t a simple matter. But one thing is pretty straight: it’s about respecting those who are different and you can’t do that if you have found the personal difference you feel has never been acknowledged let alone respected."

"Yeah, that or we just think it's a right load of old bollocks. Occam's razor and all that."

"If one accepts this kind of thing is determined by sex at birth, what is the problem with explaining to people that sometimes boys find other boys attractive and may indeed want to be women in their behaviour? What door exactly does it open? Way I see it, reaction here is nothing to do with a concern for society. In fact, the main proponents pride themselves in having 0 social awareness. It is all about their resentment that social factors have come together to deny you the opportunity to choose your gender identity and sexual behaviour without fear of sanction."

"Two X chromosomes and you’re a woman, fetch up with an XY pairing and you’re a man. Approximately 1 in 4500 children are born with ambiguous genitalia which makes visual identification subjective. The best way to determine whether boy or girl is to discover the chromosome set up. The rule of thumb is if the Y chromosome is present it’s a boy, no Y it’s a girl."

"I’ve noticed that bald, uptight blokes are really retarded when it comes to all sorts of emotional intelligence. But I don’t think it’s a testosterone thing because that also regulates sex drive and they have none of that at all. Maybe it’s because they’re just repressed homosexuals."

Pickle sister looks maskuline version of Pickle. I fink she mite have hes testosystrone?

"""I have no truck with this trans-nonsense at all. I'm just trying to understand why posters are particularly vexed by that description"" There's been a considerable effort to spread the idea that this sort of stuff is fluid and that children have a right to choose on the matter. This opens the door wide open to the horrors of ""trans kids"", irreversible hormone therapy and surgery. Even 5 years ago this was the stuff of a handful of activists, now the language is being parrotted by senior NHS staff."

LOL