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Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 12:59 Fascinating - it’s not every day you get to talk directly to anyone who openly admits to buying the Trump kool aid. I told you to fuck off the site the other day. I’ll take that back now.
So I’m curious - what does Trump or Yaxley-Lennon do for you?
Why's that? Not everyone supports your warped/derranged ideology. You think Trump supporters are a minority? Doesn't matter really what you told me. I'm glad you took it back though. I stand by my comments though, all these atrocities that happen are on you and your ilk.
Have you watched his documentary?
Have you watched his documentary?
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Do you really believe it was thanks to Trump that there were fewer wars around the world when he was US president? Do you have any awareness at all of what was happening in the world at that time?
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The world certainly benefitted with less wars and conflicts going on around the world when Trump was President. He leaves that shit to other genuine dangerous shite Hawks.
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twoleftfeet wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 13:49 I know what Trump does for me, he provides me with great delight watching the left lose their shit if he gets in. The bloke is an oaf but I do love watching the left cry. As for Robinson, I’m
enjoying watching him become a political martyr and once again seeing the left lose their shit. All I need now is for this bunch of cunts “ Hope not Hate “ to be exposed for the scumbags they are.
So, an opportunity to indulge your resentment of people who see Trump as a dangerous clown. You’re not going to benefit in any other way if he becomes US president, that much you can count on. Have you ever considered that the “left” you hate so much might have something to tell you that you might need to take on board?
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Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 12:59 Fascinating - it’s not every day you get to talk directly to anyone who openly admits to buying the Trump kool aid. I told you to fuck off the site the other day. I’ll take that back now.
So I’m curious - what does Trump or Yaxley-Lennon do for you?
Do you call Elton John, Elton Dwight John?
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I know what Trump does for me, he provides me with great delight watching the left lose their shit if he gets in. The bloke is an oaf but I do love watching the left cry. As for Robinson, I’m
enjoying watching him become a political martyr and once again seeing the left lose their shit. All I need now is for this bunch of cunts “ Hope not Hate “ to be exposed for the scumbags they are.
enjoying watching him become a political martyr and once again seeing the left lose their shit. All I need now is for this bunch of cunts “ Hope not Hate “ to be exposed for the scumbags they are.
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Fascinating - it’s not every day you get to talk directly to anyone who openly admits to buying the Trump kool aid. I told you to fuck off the site the other day. I’ll take that back now.
So I’m curious - what does Trump or Yaxley-Lennon do for you?
So I’m curious - what does Trump or Yaxley-Lennon do for you?
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Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 12:00 Without going into the basic issues around selecting moral guidance on the basis comparison to others, who else do you see as an authority?
Let me guess: no longer Farage so Trump? Or maybe Putin?
Trump yes definately, farage threw Tommy under the bus so no not him.
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Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 08:54 Do you actually see him as some kind of moral authority?
He has 100% more moral authority than any (ANY) poster on here - especially those who categorically see themselves in having such status.
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Without going into the basic issues around selecting moral guidance on the basis comparison to others, who else do you see as an authority?
Let me guess: no longer Farage so Trump? Or maybe Putin?
Let me guess: no longer Farage so Trump? Or maybe Putin?
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Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑31 Oct 2024, 08:54 Do you actually see him as some kind of moral authority?
Comparing to others....Yes absolutely
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He refused to stand down on his film SILENCED...
Why does "owning it" suprise you ?
Why does "owning it" suprise you ?
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wils wrote: ↑29 Oct 2024, 22:02Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑29 Oct 2024, 21:08 It's not a moot point. I'm simply attributing the refusal to call him that name, one out of spite. Which is attributed to 'dead naming'. Or a refusal to use requested pronouns.I think the use of his Yaxley-Lennon name serves as a shibboleth for a group who many would label as liberals (probably not an accurate label in this context though). It's way of signalling belonging to a social grouping that sees itself superior to the group that he draws his support from.
Like most political fault lines they are more about identity than people drawing rational conclusions after considering all the arguments. A bit like people on both side of the Brexit debate argue about the economics merits of their side of the issue even though both sides would not change their minds on what they thought of Brexit if they were presented with conclusive evidence that their argument was flawed. Economics is just a proxy for what really irks each side which is identity.
That's why even if the contradictions you mention above hold true they won't convince anyone they are wrong about which version of his name they should use. His supporters support him becuase they believe - rightly or wrongly - that he represents people like them. His detractors look at the images of the people on the marches and recognise them as belonging to a social class they perceive as being beneath them and jump at the chance to advertise that.
I'm probably vain enough to consider myself in the latter group if I am honest which why I take some comfort in finding a reason to sit on the fence when it comes to having an opinion on him. The reason I don't join in the sneering is I have been on the wrong end of that on things I have believed in in the past. So I try to avoid doing it. But no-one's perfect and am I sure you'll catch me indulging in it too from time to time. But also as I mentioned in a previous post, TR, SYL or whatever you want to call him has fucked up with this. The boy who was expelled and made a pariah by an all too willing mob of liberals deserved more.
That boy and his family are in hiding.
as is the teacher from Batley grammar school.
as is the teacher from Batley grammar school.
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Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑29 Oct 2024, 21:14 No, it’s not dead naming to call someone by their real name when they have adopted a pseudonym to pander to an audience of reactionaries and hapless losers.
What like Mohammad Ali ?
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Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑30 Oct 2024, 22:25Moncurs Putting Iron" wrote: ↑30 Oct 2024, 05:20 Jaan,
I have to admit I stay away from that minefield of a subject t. I don't want to be caught up in it or out by it.
I will leave you with this though if I may. All the media, even, the ones the woke watch threads often call out, referred to him as Tommy Robinson. So they did him the courtesy of using his preferred pysdonnym.
Thank you for keeping it civil, I appreciate it.
Right off to walk the hound.
My apologies. My original post wasn't aimed at you.
I'm not offended by criticism to Robinson/Yaxley-Lennon. I do find it frustrating that it's seemingly ok to wish the worst on him, Farage, Boris Johnson and Trump, whilst using the ironic excuse that they are divisive and nasty, by the very people using virtue as a weapon.
Hence the term virtue -signaller .
President Trump has taken unbelievable flak over nigh on 8 yrs...the like of which is quite staggering (and telling )..
He's still standing ...
President Trump has taken unbelievable flak over nigh on 8 yrs...the like of which is quite staggering (and telling )..
He's still standing ...
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goose wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 20:41Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 16:37 another 2TK quick sentence? any news on the pair of old bill beating ragheads? or is communist Kier only allowed to jail the indigenous population?They’ve not been charged with anything (yet).
I e-mailed the CPS (north west region) on the 20/09/2024 .
The reply was generic and standard.
why bother ?
Because Its all about letting the buggers know that people are out there scrutinizing EVERYTHING they do .
the more people do the same ..the better for all of us .
The reply was generic and standard.
why bother ?
Because Its all about letting the buggers know that people are out there scrutinizing EVERYTHING they do .
the more people do the same ..the better for all of us .
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Moncurs Putting Iron" wrote: ↑30 Oct 2024, 05:20 Jaan,
I have to admit I stay away from that minefield of a subject t. I don't want to be caught up in it or out by it.
I will leave you with this though if I may. All the media, even, the ones the woke watch threads often call out, referred to him as Tommy Robinson. So they did him the courtesy of using his preferred pysdonnym.
Thank you for keeping it civil, I appreciate it.
Right off to walk the hound.
My apologies. My original post wasn't aimed at you.
I'm not offended by criticism to Robinson/Yaxley-Lennon. I do find it frustrating that it's seemingly ok to wish the worst on him, Farage, Boris Johnson and Trump, whilst using the ironic excuse that they are divisive and nasty, by the very people using virtue as a weapon.
I'm not offended by criticism to Robinson/Yaxley-Lennon. I do find it frustrating that it's seemingly ok to wish the worst on him, Farage, Boris Johnson and Trump, whilst using the ironic excuse that they are divisive and nasty, by the very people using virtue as a weapon.
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Moncurs Putting Iron" wrote: ↑30 Oct 2024, 05:20 Jaan,
I have to admit I stay away from that minefield of a subject t. I don't want to be caught up in it or out by it.
I will leave you with this though if I may. All the media, even, the ones the woke watch threads often call out, referred to him as Tommy Robinson. So they did him the courtesy of using his preferred pysdonnym.
Thank you for keeping it civil, I appreciate it.
Right off to walk the hound.
Keeping it civil? Do you want me to copy and paste the message you sent in my inbox? As you didn't have the "Ed Balls" to say it here.
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Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑29 Oct 2024, 22:09 No.
There never was any economically sound argument for Brexit any more than there is one for unicorns.
Economics is not the be all and end all of the argument.
Many are quite prepared to pay a premium to achieve what they desire and not a single person in the UK is responsible for the cost to those outside the UK seeking to purchase UK products & services; if UK products and services become economically unviable, there are hundreds of other alternatives around the world to chose from.
I see no evidence of the UK economy going south due to Brexit.
Many are quite prepared to pay a premium to achieve what they desire and not a single person in the UK is responsible for the cost to those outside the UK seeking to purchase UK products & services; if UK products and services become economically unviable, there are hundreds of other alternatives around the world to chose from.
I see no evidence of the UK economy going south due to Brexit.
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Jaan,
I have to admit I stay away from that minefield of a subject t. I don't want to be caught up in it or out by it.
I will leave you with this though if I may. All the media, even, the ones the woke watch threads often call out, referred to him as Tommy Robinson. So they did him the courtesy of using his preferred pysdonnym.
Thank you for keeping it civil, I appreciate it.
Right off to walk the hound.
I have to admit I stay away from that minefield of a subject t. I don't want to be caught up in it or out by it.
I will leave you with this though if I may. All the media, even, the ones the woke watch threads often call out, referred to him as Tommy Robinson. So they did him the courtesy of using his preferred pysdonnym.
Thank you for keeping it civil, I appreciate it.
Right off to walk the hound.
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wils wrote: ↑29 Oct 2024, 22:02Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑29 Oct 2024, 21:08 It's not a moot point. I'm simply attributing the refusal to call him that name, one out of spite. Which is attributed to 'dead naming'. Or a refusal to use requested pronouns.I think the use of his Yaxley-Lennon name serves as a shibboleth for a group who many would label as liberals (probably not an accurate label in this context though). It's way of signalling belonging to a social grouping that sees itself superior to the group that he draws his support from.
Like most political fault lines they are more about identity than people drawing rational conclusions after considering all the arguments. A bit like people on both side of the Brexit debate argue about the economics merits of their side of the issue even though both sides would not change their minds on what they thought of Brexit if they were presented with conclusive evidence that their argument was flawed. Economics is just a proxy for what really irks each side which is identity.
That's why even if the contradictions you mention above hold true they won't convince anyone they are wrong about which version of his name they should use. His supporters support him becuase they believe - rightly or wrongly - that he represents people like them. His detractors look at the images of the people on the marches and recognise them as belonging to a social class they perceive as being beneath them and jump at the chance to advertise that.
I'm probably vain enough to consider myself in the latter group if I am honest which why I take some comfort in finding a reason to sit on the fence when it comes to having an opinion on him. The reason I don't join in the sneering is I have been on the wrong end of that on things I have believed in in the past. So I try to avoid doing it. But no-one's perfect and am I sure you'll catch me indulging in it too from time to time. But also as I mentioned in a previous post, TR, SYL or whatever you want to call him has fucked up with this. The boy who was expelled and made a pariah by an all too willing mob of liberals deserved more.
My point is irrespective of him as a person. It's simply used as a general term of rejection to him. Spite.
Moncs wrote...
'It's not the name that is being sneered at, its the reason for the change. As if the working man buys into him because he is called Tommy Smith and is one of us as a result? Pretty insulting really.'
Now imagine the outrage had JK Rowling said the same about Dylan Mulvaney.
Moncs wrote...
'It's not the name that is being sneered at, its the reason for the change. As if the working man buys into him because he is called Tommy Smith and is one of us as a result? Pretty insulting really.'
Now imagine the outrage had JK Rowling said the same about Dylan Mulvaney.
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riosleftsock wrote: ↑29 Oct 2024, 22:18 I'm not sure this is correct though, but I'm not sure we will ever know the truth of this lad's story.
Yeah, it could wrong. It just seems from watching TR's video and listening to the libel case verdict there didn't seem to be any denial that the Syrian boy had caused an altercation in the classroom and incident outside the school was the boy responding to that. It seemed to be other stuff that TR had heard from third parties that turned out to be hearsay that caused the problem. But becuase of the libel distraction we may never know for sure.
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Good post Wils, agree with most of that.
"The boy who was expelled and made a pariah by an all too willing mob of liberals deserved more."
I'm not sure this is correct though, but I'm not sure we will ever know the truth of this lad's story. I hope his story is correct, but I always smell a rat when the media and political class pile in so heavily on any particular issue.
The Welsh christian who incomprehensibly inflicted neck injuries to some white racist's children is a case in point, people have been locked up for years for being angry at this obvious red flag. The news of his transformation into a son of immigrants who is also a muslim terrorist must have been a big surprise to our media and political class.
A lot of people are not buying this shit anymore and there needs to be a change, not a lawyer in charge who wants to use the law to shut you up when you have genuine concerns about what is happening to our country.
"The boy who was expelled and made a pariah by an all too willing mob of liberals deserved more."
I'm not sure this is correct though, but I'm not sure we will ever know the truth of this lad's story. I hope his story is correct, but I always smell a rat when the media and political class pile in so heavily on any particular issue.
The Welsh christian who incomprehensibly inflicted neck injuries to some white racist's children is a case in point, people have been locked up for years for being angry at this obvious red flag. The news of his transformation into a son of immigrants who is also a muslim terrorist must have been a big surprise to our media and political class.
A lot of people are not buying this shit anymore and there needs to be a change, not a lawyer in charge who wants to use the law to shut you up when you have genuine concerns about what is happening to our country.
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Oh and how exactly does a mob of liberals go about its business?
Does it demand you make yourself useful or bugger off and make way for someone who can?
Does it demand you make yourself useful or bugger off and make way for someone who can?