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Well, El Flop needs fucking off tonight.

Sergio Conceicao isn't working, worth a go?

… or Arnold Schwarzenegger

Could be an opening for Gary Linekar.

Is Ange. A Yes Man. Cheap. And looking for a final payday before retirement.?

Because that’s the only things that matter to Sullivan. If you don’t fill that remit. You ain’t even in the conversation.!

Fifth Column" wrote: ↑12 Nov 2024, 13:35 Ange would be a step up from Lop though

southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑12 Nov 2024, 12:20

THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑02 Nov 2024, 15:50 Well, El Flop needs fucking off tonight.

Sergio Conceicao isn't working, worth a go?

Isn't Big Ange currently proving what some critics thought of him, though? That he was a flat-track bully in Scotland?

I do like his gung-ho approach and commitment to getting players forward. But Spurs are getting picked off by the likes of Ipswich etc. You can play that way when you're by far the biggest fish in the tiny shit-laden pond of Scottish football. But the Premier League is a whole different challenge. As Lopetegui is finding out.

Neil Lennon won more titles in Scotland than Big Ange. Neil Lennon.

I think we'd settle for what Spurs have this season under Ange, even if their league form isn't much better than ours. Playing on the whole, attractive football, and giving the cups a go is all we really want.
 

Ange would be a step up from Lop though

Postecoglou?!  Replace the 2nd oldest manager in the league who's failing with his team, with the oldest one who's failing with his team?

Let's get a manager on the up for once.

THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑02 Nov 2024, 15:50 Well, El Flop needs fucking off tonight.

Sergio Conceicao isn't working, worth a go?

Ladysmith wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 18:09 It maybe worth holing off for a while because many think that Ange Postocohlou ‘s days are numbered.

i would love him as the West Ham manager.

Line - acre ?

It maybe worth holing off for a while because many think that Ange Postocohlou ‘s days are numbered.

i would love him as the West Ham manager.

Steidten is only here because Kretinsky most likely wouldn’t have invested into the club otherwise. Sullivan most likely gone along with it. Thinking he can sideline whoever comes in at best. Or piss off enough. That said individual will just walk away.

Was watching SSN a few days ago & the Brighton fellow was teaming up with his manager to play Redknapp J & Bobby Zamora at paddle ball
When asked about the manager he said he’d been on the radar for a while as they looked at managers operating successfully at smaller clubs with less resources
Understand that was at St Pauli
Finding a manager that suits the club profile not because he’d managed Real Madrid or the Spanish national team

I was listening to someone talking about Man Utd's new set up and how Amorim will fit in, bearing in mind they've recently appointed Jason Wilcox with Dan Ashworth above him, both of whom report to Berrada. Essentially they suggest Amorim will tell Ashworth the type of player he wants, rather than the actual player, and he will come back with a bunch of options that he believes all fit the bill, then Berrada will try to get one of them.

I suspect a similar arrangement exists at Brighton where - as someone mentioned on here - they reckon they have options for every position, including manager/head coach.

The idea that Sullivan would ever do that is fanciful to say the least.

That's one of the reasons I'd question Steidten, because if he was that good you can't imagine him being happy to be undermined or have his authority diluted.

The other reason I'd question him is because unlike Alf I think that Kudus aside his acquisitions have been very average indeed... and Mavropanos is more average than most

The Academy of Football…???

Hasn’t produced much at all…

Why…???

Agree with Stubbo, you’ll never hear of Tony Bloom at Brighton choosing a player as a “gift” for the manager as BFS said Sullivan does to keep his agent sychophants sucking up to him. You dont run a multi million business like that and think because you are a shareholder that you know better than people brought up in the game and that you’re “golden gut” is better to trust than data and them computer things.

Sullivan, at every turn, wants to be appreciated as some football expert. History tells a very different story. Sad really but thats who he is it would seem.

IMO Steidten’s picks are 60:40 across the 2 summer windows. Kudus, Alavarez ( with better players around him), Todibo ( has got talent just struggling to show it at times in our “walking football” set up), Wan Bassaka ( assume Steidten ) all decent buys. Jury still out on Mavropanus who has had decent games but prone to a rickett or two. Good gor the squad overall though. Guilehme another that may turn out to be a shrewd signing eventually but currently looking like that young Savio geezer ) . Fullkrug looks a questionable investment anyway you look at.

Loppy’s choices are a 40:60 the other way. Rodruiguez and Soler ate good technical playerd but totally unsuitable to the Premiership. But when the team is so slow and old collectively, they’re inability to cope with the pace and intensity is highlighted even more.

But Stubbo correctly makes the point that Sullivan’s an amateur and the whole set up with him, the head coach, the Technical Director and the Sporting Director all involved with the recruitment just demonstrates the lack of nous, know how and professionalism. Its a bloody circus still imo

onsideman wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 08:44 I think it's been widely reported that Summerville was Sullivan's pick

Guilherme, Todibo and Fullkrug are on Steidten

Soler, Rodriguez and Kilman were Lopetegui 

Think Foderingham was probably a commonsense option agreed by all to increase the homegrown quota

I don't know the truth about which senior figures at West Ham essentially 'sign' which players.

But what I can say is that the current situation appears to have very little logic to it, and holds the potential to massively undermine the club and other senior personnel. It's a bit of a recipe for disaster - unless there are far clearer lines of accountability than it first appears.

For example, you can't have a squad full of new players partly 'picked' by Sullivan, Steidten and Lopetegui. Unless they share an almost universal vision for the club, the team and how it will play, you WILL end up with a disjointed patchwork of players who have no identity, fluency, sense of team spirit and shared commitment. Which - surprise, surprise! - is EXACTLY how we look to any half-brained fan right now. We do look like a rag-tag team of players chosen by lottery.

It was time for Moyes to go, of course. I'm not one to say he should have stayed - the wheels had fallen off. However, what I will say about Moyes is that - broadly - the team was his and had his identity (with one or two notable exceptions and several expensive players who did not fit his style, which happens).

One thing that must happen is that one person HAS to take full and final responsibility for the players and signings. To my mind, that has to be the first team manager. Technical directors are fine, but there's no point them choosing "their" players above the manager's signings because, ultimately, the manager has to coach them every day, get performances from them and bears responsibility for first-team performances. Call me old fashioned, but I would hate to manage only players chosen by somebody else. You'll never get a tune from them.

I'm not a fan of Lopetegui and he should be sacked today, as far as I'm concerned. But the incoming manager HAS to be given the final say over players (beyond Sullivan OK-ing the affordability etc). Not Steidten if that is happening. Moyes was right about that.

Noble is overseeing all the club’s junior players. He trains with them and encourages the youngsters we want to keep to sign contracts. 

He probably also has a wider role to encourage young players to be considered by the manager 

Whatever Nobles title is I have always thought he is basically a Player Liaison person helping the foreign players settle in
Has he ever been a true Sporting Director determining the direction of the club?
Dont think so

I think it's been widely reported that Summerville was Sullivan's pick

Guilherme, Todibo and Fullkrug are on Steidten

Soler, Rodriguez and Kilman were Lopetegui 

Think Foderingham was probably a commonsense option agreed by all to increase the homegrown quota

I noticed in the media this quote from Sean Whetstone -“A recent report that claimed Lopetegui was unhappy with some of the summer signings not playing his style of football has been denied by a club source,” Whetstone said on X.“Some players were hand picked by Steidten, while some were chosen by the head coach and one was suggested by the board.

I reckon that was Foderingham so did he come through Sullivan's favourite agent? Kilman, Soler and Rodriguez must have been Lopetegui I think? Guilherme, Summerville, Wan-Bisaka, Todibo and Duran were Steidten's choices. Even then £40m Duran got whittled back to £21m Fullkrug.

I think that Mavropanos, Kudus, Alvarez were earlier Steidten signings so he's done quite a decent job it seems to me. What do others think? Should Lopetegui just accept that he's shit and fuck off?,

  

Making lots of money by following your own instincts throughout life, almost certainly means that Sullivan is reluctant to let others make the kind of decisions that could relegate us if they get key decisions wrong. So, Sulllivan follows the instincts that made him a billionaire and gets away with it by letting the managers take the blame for his mistakes..

I can't see Lopetegui getting the sack unless someone (Kretinsky?) makes him admit he got it wrong when he decided not to go with Steidten's recommendation for Amorim on a cost basis. Sullivan needs to be made to sell the majority of his stake in the club for the goodness of all...

If only we'd appointed a German Technical Director who might have had an inside track on identifying an up and coming German coach like Hurzeler...