Time for massive protests against David Sullivan!

[Barty888]

We can't simply accept his presence! We need to get him the fuck away from our club!

[Barty888]

Ok, sort one out then.

It's in work in progress.....

[Mike Oxsaw]

Having a season ticket because you've "always had a season ticket" does not mark you out as a "better" West Ham fan.

It does indicate insecurity and a reluctance to change along with the world though.

[smartypants]

The only thing our owners truly fear is apathy. Anything else means you’re still on the hook. If you don’t like what’s happening then don’t go, stay at home and watch the match on your fire stick.

[Sir Alf]

Team will have to be in the bottom 3 at Xmas, be on a horrific run of results and then you will likely have the conditions for mass protest or dissent imo

its possible with the Sullivans recruitment meddling and failure to address the team / squad’s obvious problems ( midfield, forward, keeper ) but until then there will be apathy I suspect.

[XKhammer]

I have said it before and i will say it again. Get the fan forums and groups to organise a mass walk out. Make it on a live Sky game and walk out after 5 minutes then stand outside and protest. Just leave the tourists in there. 

It will be an awful look for Sullivan. Sky won't like it. And it will have the biggest impact and highlight this to other fans. 

 

l wouldn't back it

That’s because you’re a massive no mark cսnt that isn’t proper West Ham

I have a season ticket is that the reason I'm a no mark cսnt?
Are you proper West Ham giving it large on here?

[Gank]

No good bleating on WHO about it, there are hardly any posters on here and only a percentage of those would back it.

The only platform with the numbers to get the word out properly is Hammers United but if they organise this it would sever their links with the club.

So forget it.

Good! So fucking severe it then. They've played it smart by keeping their enemies closer but it's getting us nowhere. Time to cut all ties and demand for them to fuck off now. Time is up..

They might do. Are any of them still on WHO?

[Niblets]

You don't half have a knack of being able to say a hell of a lot, without actually saying anything at all. 

[Mike Oxsaw]

Humans - ALL humans are social creatures of habit; we like a routine, it helps us keep track of time.

Football at 3pm every Saturday being one such example. The disruption TV brought to that decades old routine, however, proves that habits can be broken without your dick dropping off, routines can be changed without the sky falling in. We managed Sunday games, without much of an issue, while in Europe.

Nobody is saying that you HAVE to change - what they are saying is that to help ensure that you can keep your routine going in the future, you may have to put yourself off-schedule now for a short while.

It does need co-ordination though and these days there are plenty of people who would happily be in charge of such action (if they had the time - but they don't, sorry) but will give a big fuck-off if they so much as feel on the wind that somebody is trying to lead them or tell them what to do.

It's no secret that I've not been to a game for decades, so personally, right NOW, I'm not giving anything up. I still have plans to take in a few games each time I come back to Europe, but the direction in which the club is moving make that less and less likely.

I would, though, be Sullivan's dream customer - a tourist AND old skool; long held passion for the team along with a souvenir shopping list.

[Massive Attack]

No good bleating on WHO about it, there are hardly any posters on here and only a percentage of those would back it.

The only platform with the numbers to get the word out properly is Hammers United but if they organise this it would sever their links with the club.

So forget it.

Good! So fucking severe it then. They've played it smart by keeping their enemies closer but it's getting us nowhere. Time to cut all ties and demand for them to fuck off now. Time is up..

[Gank]

No good bleating on WHO about it, there are hardly any posters on here and only a percentage of those would back it.

The only platform with the numbers to get the word out properly is Hammers United but if they organise this it would sever their links with the club.

So forget it.

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

I have said it before and i will say it again. Get the fan forums and groups to organise a mass walk out. Make it on a live Sky game and walk out after 5 minutes then stand outside and protest. Just leave the tourists in there. 

It will be an awful look for Sullivan. Sky won't like it. And it will have the biggest impact and highlight this to other fans. 

 

l wouldn't back it

That’s because you’re a massive no mark cսnt that isn’t proper West Ham

[XKhammer]

I have said it before and i will say it again. Get the fan forums and groups to organise a mass walk out. Make it on a live Sky game and walk out after 5 minutes then stand outside and protest. Just leave the tourists in there. 

It will be an awful look for Sullivan. Sky won't like it. And it will have the biggest impact and highlight this to other fans. 

 

 

Seeing as most fans turn up after 5 mins because they have been delayed by the pathetic security checks this is a non starter plus l wouldn't back it as l go to watch West Ham and no matter what not demos organised by people that don't actually go...doom and gloom merchants 

[stubbo]

I don't think S&B give a fuck about STHs seeing as they're now bringing in facial recognition to deter people abusing concessional tickets. As STHs we generate around 15% of the Clubs turnover, so even if 20% kicked up and ended up walking away or getting banned that's a revenue loss of around £7 million which is covered by shirt sponsorship.

The best way is to make Sullivan's life uncomfortable and force his hand, otherwise after him we'll be lumbered with Jack and that will be the end of West Ham.

Happy days 

Agree with this.  Although suspect Jack is a bit more mummy's boy and thin skinned than his old man, and might be more 'open to persuasion' from a concerted effort by the fanbase.

Just the impression that I get.

[North Bank]

I don't think S&B give a fuck about STHs seeing as they're now bringing in facial recognition to deter people abusing concessional tickets. As STHs we generate around 15% of the Clubs turnover, so even if 20% kicked up and ended up walking away or getting banned that's a revenue loss of around £7 million which is covered by shirt sponsorship.

The best way is to make Sullivan's life uncomfortable and force his hand, otherwise after him we'll be lumbered with Jack and that will be the end of West Ham.

Happy days 

[Russ of the BML]

I have said it before and i will say it again. Get the fan forums and groups to organise a mass walk out. Make it on a live Sky game and walk out after 5 minutes then stand outside and protest. Just leave the tourists in there. 

It will be an awful look for Sullivan. Sky won't like it. And it will have the biggest impact and highlight this to other fans. 

[Sydney_Iron]

Oh FFS

i doubt he or the board will give 2 fucks at any protest, as long as they fill the bowl and the TV and sponsorship money keeps rolling in!

He is the owner (yes he’s a shit owner) but his prerogative how he runs things, harsh but true just as it is that anyone is free to offer to buy him out? 

 Not saying the fans shouldn’t show there anger, but unless it’s en masse and the bowl is half empty and no merchandise sales it’s like pissing in the wind, good luck getting enough people to participate

[XKhammer]

They've since reconfigured the Stadium and tightened security to make it harder to achieve a protest like Burnley inside the Stadium, so can't blame the fans too much for that. 

It's either a fuck off sized Protest March to the Stadium from The Vic similar to the last time we did it, or stop going to matches is probably the best ways to protest now.

The Mass March would be the best option if it was organised again to send a clear message. That last one was proper good and well organised.

Problem is vast majority not interested for various reasons 
Chav corner(Bubbles) who use to post here,and organised the protests/petitions against concession removed will tell you how hard it was to get people interested 

[XKhammer]

That's it. A season ticket is guaranteed income they can borrow against. That's the only reason for the chasing. They can make potentially five times as much from selling a seat game by game but alternatively they could make nothing. A one off ticket buyer is definitely a lot more valuable then a season ticket holder in terms of what they spend first on the ticket and then more likely as a one off or rare visitor on food drink and likely something in the shop. But you can't tell a lender you have that money even if you can reliably forecast it on past data because it might not happen, so they won't lend against it. Bit of a weird catch 22. On one hand I am sure they want to fuck us off because they make loads more from tourists and infrequent attenders, but they can't because their business plan of payday loans to finance the upcoming season goes down the shitter. 

If the ST waiting list was massive and people were jumping at the chance to take season tickets the moment the renewal deadline passes they wouldn't give a fuck at all though, I am sure.

So, if you want to maintain your season ticket...A season ticket...the best option is to not renew until the very last day.

The perceived/promoted risk is that by leaving it late then you might not get the seat(s) you want, and I fully understand that.

The counter to that is that you just walk away if your preferred seat is not available. Nailed on if you threaten that, the seat you want will suddenly become "available again after a late cancellation" (last day to purchase - how "late" is "late"?) . That's a big risk, though,  and far be it for me to suggest others take it.

Also it needs a significant number of ST holders to go down that path and for a myriad of reasons, too few people are likely to take on such an approach - were I a ST holder (again), I'd probably buy as soon as they became available because that's what I tend to do with all purchases of stuff I want; one less thing to worry about later.

The bottom line is: " Do they want/need your money more than you want/need football. It's apples & oranges in reality.

Doesn't work like that I'm afraid especially if number of you sit together 
I renewed early to get the 3 priority points

[XKhammer]

The best way of protesting is vote with your feet and not turn up

Thought about that but just can't but I'm going to follow Hornchurch a bit more
Depends on and when we get new owners,if it's Arabs I'm gone

[XKhammer]

Do they actually want (/need) the old skool contingent?

Sullivan''s VisiCalc program has probably told him that a seat occupied by a different tourist for every (home) game generates a better ROI than one occupied by a local/season ticket holder.

So long as the club remains in the PL (and it's Brand PL the tourists come to see, not West Ham), banks will keep lending (Payday loans) and sucking interest payments from the club coffers.

If you're including old skool like yourself who don't actually go or buy club merchandise then yes you're spot on,you're not needed or wanted by club
Yes the tourists money is welcome and l hate the half/half scarfers,but that's the way of vast majority of Premier clubs and being London club it's not going to change.How else can we compete?
Would you rather we was run more like Leeds,WBA,Sunderland,Middlesbrough,Coventry,Southampton,Portsmouth???

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

It's either a fuck off sized Protest March to the Stadium from The Vic similar to the last time we did it

What happened to the march the majority of us stumped up the readies for?
The one where we were told hearses with coffins were being driven to the ground, to signify the death of the West Ham we know/knew, only for it to be pulled/sabotaged at the last minute.
Not trying to be arguementative Massive son, but really can't see an organised protest being, well, organised.

[Massive Attack]

They've since reconfigured the Stadium and tightened security to make it harder to achieve a protest like Burnley inside the Stadium, so can't blame the fans too much for that. 

It's either a fuck off sized Protest March to the Stadium from The Vic similar to the last time we did it, or stop going to matches is probably the best ways to protest now.

The Mass March would be the best option if it was organised again to send a clear message. That last one was proper good and well organised.

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

Organised protests will more than likely be killed off by the stunted cսnt and his mates (and those that are threatened by the same mates).
We've seen it before. Nothing as sickening as seeing 'proper' West Ham threatening others. Cunts.
The only protests that MAY be effective are spontaneous, like Burnley.
Unfortunately, spontaneous protests are by nature, spontaneous, and not organised. They need a trigger.
The fan base appears to have lost it's backbone, as really can't see the likes of Burnley again.
We're fucked.

[Massive Attack]

Think about it. Daytrippers will naturally gravitate more towards successful Teams, rarely because of the name of a Club - They don't really care or understand the history for the most part. Or one's deemed to pick up more points, wins and general entertainment. Just happy to experience a local in proximity to their stay (London) Club in the Premier League. Once the diehards dwindle more and more away and the Club languishes just above the relegation zone, then the less appealing it will be for daytrippers to fork out so much for 1 single ticket. Why bother when you can go to Fulham/Brentford/Palace for a better cheaper experience in an atmosphere that won't be toxic and dead as fuck..

BS will be very nervous about the loss of guaranteed gate receipts and all it brings. Remember, it's not the Daytrippers who generate any kind of atmosphere, it is only the diehards. Hmm how's that relegation battle looking upon the horizon Dave/Kaz... Their arseholes are twitching. And if it aint, it fucking well should be. 2p, 1p, 2p, 1p..

Also how ironic would it be if there are scores of visible empty seats in future, considering the fact they purposely avoided forking out to change them from bright white to darker claret. It'll be symbolic about their demise that'll be impossible to ignore should it go more that way and all for the sake of penny pinching, funny that..
 

[Mike Oxsaw]

The best way of protesting is vote with your feet and not turn up

How many empty seats does there need to be at a top PL game for the media to notice and comment on?

OK, so the club have got the money from ST sales, but there has to be a point where low levels of attendance raise embarrassing questions.

Just not turning up, even if you really, really want to see the stars of the PL, and certainly not reselling your seat, would beam images of those empty seats around the world.