Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 27 Sep 2025, 08:57
by stubbo-admin
Until West Ham find out mojo again, a game against a David Moyes managed side will always have some kind of extra significance.
Layer on the pressure on Potter who looks like a dead man walking, and this game is under intense scrutiny.
It looks for all the world like Potter has two games, not to save his job, but to buy a stay if execution, against Everton and Arsenal, made none the easier by these two being amongst the best set piece side in the league....the Hammers clear achilles heel.
The stats this far have backed up the eye test...West Ham ARE terrible at defending the box, none of the keepers help out on crosses, and we give up corners willy nilly.
But if Potter is to cling on, nothing but a win here will do.
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Predicted LineUp:
With Everton's prowess at set pieces, Soucek's absence, and Potter's love to tinker, I expect him to fuck around with things and go to a back five.
Areola
Mavro. Kilman. Scarles
KWP. JWP. Diouf
Paqueta. Fernandes.
Bowen. Fullkrug.
Subs: Hermansen, Todibo, Igor, Irving, Potts, Magassa, Summerville, Guilherme, Wilson
Predicted Score:
Everton: 3
West Ham: 1 (Bowen)
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Breakdown:
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 23:55
by Alfs
He has charisma does our Nuno, and we haven't had a manager with that for some time. It was only a point but it actually put me in a good mood for the rest of the evening, rather then the foul moods I've been in after a game for the past 18 months or so.
Greatly encouraged.
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025, 22:00
Much better second half - and a team that showed a real determination and spirit after a poor first half. Not sure if they got the hairdryer treatment, but Nuno clearly had words at half-time.
Finished looking the stronger team, and played vertically (which we rarely did under Potter).
Diouf and Summerville down the left, plus a returning AWB/KWP and Bowen down the right gives us something out wide.
Lots to sort out, still. Fullkrug is very poor as a lone striker. He’s just not mobile enough. Seems like somebody who’d play better in an old style 4-4-2. But he gives us nothing down the middle on his own.
Something to build on.
Interesting that Nuno kept Fulkrug on so long.
I view that as wanting him getting more match fitness in his legs for the games ahead.
If I'm being hypercritical I did think Nuno should have brought him off a lot sooner and got Wilson on to try and nick a winner. We were never going to score with him on the pitch in his current piss poor form and fitness.
That's my point mate..
Kept him on for the bigger picture .?
Settled for a point..?
just me overthinking probably .
good start for the porcho -geezer overall
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 23:44
by southbankbornnbred
Fullkrug just seems half a yard off the pace in England - all of the time. He’s second to everything. Forgot his shooting boots today, too. So I’m really not sure what he gives us.
There must be a player in there somewhere, as he’s been Germany’s #9 at times. But he was awful again today. Wilson seems head and shoulders the better of the two.
Fullkrug needs a goal, and some confidence, quickly.
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 23:41
by Monsieur merde de cheval
honky cat" wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025, 22:30
Might be difficult for soucek to find his way back in now, hehe
He'll come in handy under this porchogeezer
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025, 22:00
Much better second half - and a team that showed a real determination and spirit after a poor first half. Not sure if they got the hairdryer treatment, but Nuno clearly had words at half-time.
Finished looking the stronger team, and played vertically (which we rarely did under Potter).
Diouf and Summerville down the left, plus a returning AWB/KWP and Bowen down the right gives us something out wide.
Lots to sort out, still. Fullkrug is very poor as a lone striker. He’s just not mobile enough. Seems like somebody who’d play better in an old style 4-4-2. But he gives us nothing down the middle on his own.
Something to build on.
Interesting that Nuno kept Fulkrug on so long.
I view that as wanting him getting more match fitness in his legs for the games ahead.
If I'm being hypercritical I did think Nuno should have brought him off a lot sooner and got Wilson on to try and nick a winner. We were never going to score with him on the pitch in his current piss poor form and fitness.
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 23:34
by Monsieur merde de cheval
southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025, 22:00
Much better second half - and a team that showed a real determination and spirit after a poor first half. Not sure if they got the hairdryer treatment, but Nuno clearly had words at half-time.
Finished looking the stronger team, and played vertically (which we rarely did under Potter).
Diouf and Summerville down the left, plus a returning AWB/KWP and Bowen down the right gives us something out wide.
Lots to sort out, still. Fullkrug is very poor as a lone striker. He’s just not mobile enough. Seems like somebody who’d play better in an old style 4-4-2. But he gives us nothing down the middle on his own.
Something to build on.
Interesting that Nuno kept Fulkrug on so long.
I view that as wanting him getting more match fitness in his legs for the games ahead.
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 23:27
by Massive Attack
Pub Bigot" wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025, 23:13
Just back (I live in Liverpool before someone says anything) and we deserved the result. A good ding ding of a game.
Their ground is the bollocks. Close to the pitch, noise travels around the ground, purpose built for football. Puts it into perspective how dire our place is.
You Irons!
We heard you crystal clear on the Telly giving the Board proer stick and loved every second of it. What was that like at the time?
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 23:26
by Headtheball
Really chuffed tonight. Probably our best performance of the season given how low in confidence we were Seeing Potts come on gave everyone a mighty lift. Second half we were so mobile as the players are used to the counter attacking style. Nuno is a proper coach. Hopefully we've struck gold.
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 23:13
by Pub Bigot
Just back (I live in Liverpool before someone says anything) and we deserved the result. A good ding ding of a game.
Their ground is the bollocks. Close to the pitch, noise travels around the ground, purpose built for football. Puts it into perspective how dire our place is.
MotM for me was Jimmy - thought Magic Malick wasn’t far behind. His delivery is sublime.
I’ll be at Arsenal with low expectations, but im
buoyed by that performance tonight.
You Irons!
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 23:10
by Monsieur merde de cheval
southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025, 22:44
What a moment for Steve Potts to be on the bench when his kid came on and got a great reception from the away fans.
It felt proper West Ham.
Very much so mate.
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 23:05
by Forest Gate Ugly
Nuno gets this. Great that Potts got on. Brilliant man manager who knows what he’s doing. Happy days
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 22:51
by Massive Attack
I can easily imagine young Potts tearing around the Training pitches last couple of days seriously impressing Nuno. That's what got him on the Bench and brought on to play. He doesn't play any other way apart from being switched on and very tidy with the ball. I genuinely believe he's going to be a very good player for us for years to come. Got that unfazed air about him which has been past down from his old man. Very similar in that respect giving off a calmness to the Team that's infectious.
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 22:44
by southbankbornnbred
What a moment for Steve Potts to be on the bench when his kid came on and got a great reception from the away fans.
It felt proper West Ham.
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 22:43
by Monsieur merde de cheval
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025, 22:35
Ok I'm going to bring it up.. Anyone else notice a markedly different performance from the much maligned (for good reason) Kilman today under Nuno? For me he played well tonight and more like how I'd expect him to play.
He needs to produce consistency though like tonight and I do still worry about finding him a regular partner alongside him as I'm never at ease with Mavropanos there. Maybe Igor could be the answer as Todibo is clearly too unprofessional to be relied upon regularly. .
Yea..he showed a bit more aggression (for him) and got some good blocks and tackles in, but he is a fanny at attacking headers, and just a fanny in general.
hopefully Nuno can sort him out ..we need it
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 22:43
by Tomshardware
southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025, 22:29
On a basic level, I’m so much happier with us playing vertically far more often.
Potter’s sideways sides just suck the life, movement and momentum out of players and teams.
It wasn’t pretty at times tonight, but having an extra passing option who wasn’t a third centre back or yet another deep-lying midfielder going sideways/backwards, meant that we looked to get forward quicker. It was refreshing.
Agree, you get up the pitch quicker and also take the game to the opposition and give them something to worry about. The side/backwards passing constantly put ourselves under pressure. With that style of passing you're playing into the hands of high pressing teams.
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 22:42
by southbankbornnbred
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025, 22:35
Ok I'm going to bring it up.. Anyone else notice a markedly different performance from the much maligned (for good reason) Kilman today under Nuno? For me he played well tonight and more like how I'd expect him to play.
He needs to produce consistency though like tonight and I do still worry about finding him a regular partner alongside him as I'm never at ease with Mavropanos there. Maybe Igor could be the answer as Todibo is clearly too unprofessional to be relied upon regularly. .
In open play, he was definitely a bit better than normal. But he was poor again at set pieces. Mind you, he’s not the only one struggling with set pieces. We do have a huge problem with them, as everybody knows.
I’m hoping that’s a coaching thing and Nuno can sort it out.
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 22:39
by Monsieur merde de cheval
Excellent away point and overall quite encouraged with that.
Potts was excellent when he came on..good lad.
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 22:35
by Massive Attack
Ok I'm going to bring it up.. Anyone else notice a markedly different performance from the much maligned (for good reason) Kilman today under Nuno? For me he played well tonight and more like how I'd expect him to play.
He needs to produce consistency though like tonight and I do still worry about finding him a regular partner alongside him as I'm never at ease with Mavropanos there. Maybe Igor could be the answer as Todibo is clearly too unprofessional to be relied upon regularly. .
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 22:30
by honky cat
Might be difficult for soucek to find his way back in now, hehe
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 22:29
by southbankbornnbred
On a basic level, I’m so much happier with us playing vertically far more often.
Potter’s sideways sides just suck the life, movement and momentum out of players and teams.
It wasn’t pretty at times tonight, but having an extra passing option who wasn’t a third centre back or yet another deep-lying midfielder going sideways/backwards, meant that we looked to get forward quicker. It was refreshing.
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 22:29
by Maverick180180
What a load of absolute nonsense from Moyes
He thinks they did enough to win but admits they didn’t create any real chances to score a second goal, but they created enough chances to win the game
should show that interview on the next advert for dementia UK
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 22:28
by Sydney_Iron
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025, 22:23
Different level to the last couple of managers. I have to say.
Didn't need an interpreter whilst flapping his arms around looking angry or stand there looking bemused saying we played well and are disappointed whist scratching his beard...........
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 22:27
by RootsRadical
Moyes praising us in his post match interview.
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 22:27
by Massive Attack
Sydney_Iron wrote: ↑29 Sep 2025, 22:20
Not classic, but a good start for Nuno as we would have lost that under Potter as he stood by the dugout scratching his beard wondering what to do.
COYI
1000% would have lost that with the cardboard cutout.
Re: Everton vs West Ham | PL | 29.7.25 | Predictions and Match Thread
Posted: 29 Sep 2025, 22:26
by Ron Eff
It was just much more enjoyable to watch. Players getting up the pitch. Actually slinging purposeful crosses in the box instead of cutting back to pass it around aimlessly in our own half again. Fancy Diouf is going to be pivotal in Nuno’s system. Enjoyed watching Tarkowski running backwards as Diouf sailed past him, the prick.
Nuno seems to be a far better man manager and people person. Not sure I ever saw Potter talking to players. Too busy biting his coat collar trying to think of what cliches he can fit into his post match interview.
Positive signs. Shame about Fullkrug. Need a mobile centre forward.