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West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 17 Oct 2025, 10:30
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It will have been 16 days since we saw what football at the top end of things could look like by Arsenal, who made us look second class citizens in footballing terms.

This game is unusual this season, in so far as the bookies have us down as favourites to win.  Monday nigth, under the lights....but how empty will the bowl be.  With a boycott planned, kids for a quid, general sale tickets up for cheap, and Nuno's first home game, the atmosphere and attendance is anyone's guess.

Injuries wise, our Big Fucking German is big fucking injured again...reducing the options up front to the two Callum's.  Nuno chose to save ~86k in wages last time out, preferring the pace and mobility of Marshall over Wilson, and it will be interesting to see if he does the same thing here, or goes for a 'makeshift' centreforward.  And of course Soucek is back.

Other than that, there are no fresh concerns reported going into the weekend.

Predicted Starting Lineup:
Areola

Wan Bissaka   Mavropanos    Kilman    Diouf

Magassa

Fernandes             Soucek       Paqueta       Summerville

Bowen (c)
Subs: Hermansen, KWP, Igor, Potts, Guilherme, Marshall, Rodriguez, Wilson, Scarles

Predicted Score: 1-0 (Soucek)

COYI
 
 

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 10:14
by southbankbornnbred
Massive Attack" wrote: 21 Oct 2025, 10:08 Square pegs in round holes with no injures to use as an excuse for doing any of it.

Scarles at Right Back when he had either Wan-Bissaka and Walker-Peters available.

Walker-Peters at Left Back when he had either Diouf and Scarles available.

Paqueta up front when he had either Wilson and Marshall available. 

And for me he went with Irving when I personally would have chosen Potts ahead of him and Igor on the Bench instead of either Centre Back with the shocking form they're both in. 

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Totally agree. Except that Igor is a clueless lump. I watch a lot of Italian football (family thing). And there is a very good reason why he got booted out of Florence.

We bought Brighton’s 5th choice CB out of panic.

Really, don’t expect much.

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 10:08
by Massive Attack
Square pegs in round holes with no injures to use as an excuse for doing any of it.

Scarles at Right Back when he had either Wan-Bissaka and Walker-Peters available.

Walker-Peters at Left Back when he had either Diouf and Scarles available.

Paqueta up front when he had either Wilson and Marshall available. 

And for me he went with Irving when I personally would have chosen Potts ahead of him and Igor on the Bench instead of either Centre Back with the shocking form they're both in. 

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Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 10:05
by Maverick180180
I made that 9 fuck ups on team selection last night 

I’d like to congratulate him on playing a goalkeeper in goal though as there must of been moments before kick off where he was tempted to put him on the wing 

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 09:58
by southbankbornnbred
Grumpster wrote: 21 Oct 2025, 08:49 First time in his entire career at any level that Scarles has played right back.

Team selection and tactics were absolute aids and then the substitutions equally as pointless.

Don't even watch games anymore, but the 500 angry WhatsApp messages told me all I needed to know 😂
I really felt for Scarles last night. Genuinely. He’s a talented kid, but his new manager threw him to the wolves.

He’s our back up LEFT back, who will get better the more time he spends training with the first team and playing decent level games for the stiffs. Let him sit in the squad and learn. Then come in and play in his best position when he’s needed. He’ll grow into that.

He is NOT, and never will be, a right-back. He was like a fish out of water. Their left-winger had a field day.

I hope Nuno learned a very quick, never to be repeated lesson, last night. Because his starting line up was batshit. He had AWB and KWP available at right back. He was trying to be too clever too soon.

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 09:44
by norwaytips
Watched it in a pub and wish I hadn’t. That was one of the worst displays I have seen and Brentford should  have scored 6. We were just terrible. No fight, no effort, no idea. 
There is certainly a lot of  work to do. 
 

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 09:03
by Massive Attack
The sight of Wilson undoing his boots before the final whistle said it all, whilst Paqueta ran around up top like a headless chicken yet again. I wonder whether one of his boots is still being surgically removed from Nunos arsehole this morning..

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 08:49
by Grumpster
First time in his entire career at any level that Scarles has played right back.

Team selection and tactics were absolute aids and then the substitutions equally as pointless.

Don't even watch games anymore, but the 500 angry WhatsApp messages told me all I needed to know 😂

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 08:44
by Forest Gate Ugly
I appreciate that Nuno hasn’t got his trusted coaching team around him yet but I’m amazed that no one thought to say of his suggested team, “Are you sure boss?” Just what we need. Another ego on legs who trusts his judgement when everyone else can see it’s mad. 

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 08:44
by Lee Trundle
It would be nice to have a manager come in and manage us who's on the up for once, wouldn't it?

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 08:39
by Council Scum
Decent managers aren't jobless. Decent managers need to be scouted out, assessed that they have the same ethos and vision of the club and the way it plays, then you pay the compo and get them in. 

We get whoever is on the dole. 

I said it at the start, Nuno is just another Potter. We are fucking woeful and last night you couldn't pick a player in the side or on the bench that would change it. 

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 08:38
by Massive Attack
zebthecat wrote: 21 Oct 2025, 08:34 As it stands we are going down.
We need Burnley and/or Leeds to totally collapse to save us as we are showing no signs of savings ourselves whatsoever.
The Leeds game on Friday is now crucial to at least get a draw from and ideally we should be targetting this as another game to pick up 3 valuable points. Elland Road is going to be jumping and I hope the players is much better prepared this time. Losing it really aint an option. That would create a 7 point gap and a big goal difference already.

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 08:35
by goose
It was truly baffling.

I don’t think you’d have 1 fan or pundit picking that team & setting up like that. I just can’t understand what he was trying to do.

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 08:34
by twoleftfeet
Mad Dog" wrote: 21 Oct 2025, 08:02 Areola.  Not bad last night, kicking awful though.  He was never thr problem and the Leicester prick was a waste of money
scarles.  What the fuck was he doing playing at right back, when we had wan bisakka and walker peters available.  
walker Peters. What the fuck was he doing playing when we had diouf available
kilman.  One of the worst centre backs I've ever seen
todibo.  Had moments where he looked competent.  Had more moments where he would look out of place in a pub team
soucek.  Yep.  Hes back alright.  And not the good spucek that pops up with goals.  Offered nothing
Irving.  Offered little 
Fernandes.  Ran around a bit.  Offered little
Bowen.  Wasn't at the races.  Probably trying to do too much and relied on far too much
summerville.  Good work rate, good running.  No end product.
paqueta.  Gave away the ball virtually every single time he gets it and really fucks me off.

Subs
DiOuf and wan.  Imprivements but not their best nights.  Even at 1 down they weren't going to change the game
mavrapanos. How on earth is he now out best defender?  Injured now
Marshall completely ineffective and looked out of his depth
Rodriguez. What the actual fuck.

Nuno
Selections were baffling, tactics non existant.  This had better be a blip because that was potter levels of incompetence management.  Did we get the sp*rs nuno?

We were good for 10 mins last night, but that was as gutless and pathetic as I've ever seen 
 
 
Good analysis.

Let’s hope Paqueta is dropped for Leeds because he will hate it at Elland Road, we need some fighters in midfield so fingers crossed for Potts and Magassa. Stick Wilson up front and put Igor at the back with Todibo. 

**** guaranteed none of this will happen and JWP will be brought back ***

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 08:34
by zebthecat
As it stands we are going down.
We need Burnley and/or Leeds to totally collapse to save us as we are showing no signs of savings ourselves whatsoever.

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 08:33
by southbankbornnbred
The only redeeming thing about our nailed on relegation is that Sullivan’s ludicrous valuation of the club will plummet massively.

Nobody’s paying £800m for us in the Premier League. I doubt they’ll even pay £500m for us in the championship.

 

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 08:28
by Massive Attack
Takashi Miike" wrote: 21 Oct 2025, 08:18 anyone that plays scarles at RB, must want the sack. what the fuck was potts, or the other cunts that know these young players well, doing when he mentioned playing him there?

Very good point. Either they're equally off their fucking heads chucking the poor lad under the bus or Nuno wasn't at all listening and wanted to still go ahead with his wacky plan anyway. 

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 08:25
by Massive Attack
Was that all just a mad dream last night or did that really happen? 😅

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 08:23
by Lee Trundle
I've got even less faith than the small slither I had that Nuno would keep us up, based on that team selection and performance last night.  It was truly baffling.

He's just another manager that probably see us as a free hit and is fairly ok with experimenting the way he did last night.  If he gets sacked, then so what?  He gets a nice little earner out of it.

I'm not at all shocked or angry at the situation we're in.  I could see this coming at the end of last season and have pretty much gone through all the stages and accepted it.

Sullivan is likely to be hung out to dry this season by the press, especially as we're doing just as bad in the women's football.  That's going to be the best thing to come out of this season.

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 08:20
by Forest Gate Ugly
I think the Carragher comments are helpful. You’re always going to get twerps on the BBC website saying ‘this is what you get for hounding out David Moyes”. Sky put their cameras on Sullivan and Brady. I don’t know what the long term prospects are for the club but they deserve to be in the media’s sights which is absolutely where they are now

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 08:18
by cholo
We have an appalling squad balance that any manager on earth would struggle to get a tune out of.

Having said that, managers don't do themselves any favours but I just think nuno and those that went before him were at a loss at what to do with the shit hand they have every week, hence the frankly odd looking selections. 

We'll struggle until at least January and I don't hold out much hope for after that. 

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 08:18
by Takashi Miike
anyone that plays scarles at RB, must want the sack. what the fuck was potts, or the other cunts that know these young players well, doing when he mentioned playing him there?

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 08:18
by only1billybonds
We seem to going backwards as a club. After every pathetic display I think, thats it, Rock bottom,we can only improve. But no, we somehow manage to find another level of uselessness.

The only positive for me is that I care less and less as time goes on. I no longer allow this club to affect my daily life/mood. Bit of advice for anyone still seething after last night: let it go, it really isn't worth the mental grief. And you can bet any amount that not one single director/coach /player has woken up this morning worrying about how YOU are feeling !

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 08:02
by Mad Dog
Areola.  Not bad last night, kicking awful though.  He was never thr problem and the Leicester prick was a waste of money
scarles.  What the fuck was he doing playing at right back, when we had wan bisakka and walker peters available.  
walker Peters. What the fuck was he doing playing when we had diouf available
kilman.  One of the worst centre backs I've ever seen
todibo.  Had moments where he looked competent.  Had more moments where he would look out of place in a pub team
soucek.  Yep.  Hes back alright.  And not the good spucek that pops up with goals.  Offered nothing
Irving.  Offered little 
Fernandes.  Ran around a bit.  Offered little
Bowen.  Wasn't at the races.  Probably trying to do too much and relied on far too much
summerville.  Good work rate, good running.  No end product.
paqueta.  Gave away the ball virtually every single time he gets it and really fucks me off.

Subs
DiOuf and wan.  Imprivements but not their best nights.  Even at 1 down they weren't going to change the game
mavrapanos. How on earth is he now out best defender?  Injured now
Marshall completely ineffective and looked out of his depth
Rodriguez. What the actual fuck.

Nuno
Selections were baffling, tactics non existant.  This had better be a blip because that was potter levels of incompetence management.  Did we get the sp*rs nuno?

We were good for 10 mins last night, but that was as gutless and pathetic as I've ever seen 

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 07:36
by Tomshardware
goose wrote: 21 Oct 2025, 07:18 It was almost a carbon copy of last season at home to Brentford. Same inability to deal with straight balls over the stop and a complete inability to compete physically.

im still a bit shocked at how bad we were, i swear they were on a wind up.
When they showed our results against Brentford at home we have only won once in about 10 games against them at home.    That tells the story of how bad we've been for a long time.

Re: West Ham vs Brentford | PL | 20.10.25 | Predictions and Match Thread

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 07:24
by twoleftfeet
Texas Iron" wrote: 21 Oct 2025, 07:16 Crap selection…

No Fire or aggression…

Slow and no creativity…

Waterproof Defence…

Nuno too quiet and looks comatose when speaking…

A Portuguese Potter…

Gonna be a tough season…Relegation Dog Fight…

 
I don’t think we have it in us for a fight, it will just be a white flag of surrender.