AFC Bournemouth vs West Ham | PL | 22.11.25 | Prediction and Match Thread

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WHU: 4/1
Draw: 3/1
Bournemouth: 7/10

 
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Sorry the post is late up.

After what feels like an age since we limped past Burnley, we're off to the seaside to take on many peoples favourite second team, Bournemouth.

All hussle, bustle and high intensity, Iraola's mob are the modern watch word for modern style, and there is plenty to be concerned about with talented forwards and great energy in the side.  But they've lost the last two, comprehensively against Villa, and if there is a good time to play them....maybe it's now.

After the last international break, Nuno went full Looney Tunes....let's hope for a modcum of sense this time around.

Predicted Lineup:

Hard to see beyond a team similar to the last few games, but with Paquéta suspended, all eyes will be on who replaces him from a squad devoid of any real creative influence.

No doubt the temptation will be to shoehorn Soucek into the side, but against the high energy Cherries, it surely has to be Magassa, with Fernandes pushing forwards.

Areola

Wan Bisaka  Todibo  Kilman  Diouf

Magassa Potts

Bowen         Fernandes            Summerville

Wilson

Subs: Hermansen, Mavropanos, Igor, KWP, Soucek, Irving, Kante, Guilherme, Earthy

Predicted Score:  A desmond.....2-2  (Willson, Soucek)

COYI

[XKhammer]

Brentford will struggle and Europa league will hurt Forest so both will be in the mix as will Leeds and Fulham
We are starting to score goals now which is positive sign
Thought the defence was all over the place but at least they did put in a good effort under second half especially against the wind

[Massive Attack]

Definitely rule out Sunderland being down near the bottom. They're on too much of a high and momentum to let relegation be an issue now. Got 19 points already with a positive GD. 

Everton however could well be looking over their shoulder. Don't find them all that convincing.

[goose]

Forest will be fine I’m sure.
Leeds, Burnley and us will be down there, we might add some quality in January but I won’t hold my breath.

otherwise someone will go on a bad run, maybe Fulham maybe Sunderland maybe Brentford. 

[honky cat]

Wolves and Burnley are going back down. Leeds, Forest (who I think will get out of it) and us will fill the last spot. That's why the Leeds games tactics were so fucking infuriating for me to see Nuno experiment like a nutty professor in such a game.

..Fucking hell, I've just seen who our last game of the season is against!

If we win next Sunday, we can drag Liverpool into the mix as well

[threesixty]

Maybe with Wilson he just is so scared the guy will get an injury in any match that he won’t gamble with him playing unless it’s absolutely necessary. He needs that Jan window badly. 

i think being 2-0 up he might have thought we can hang on without him. Especially as the conditions going the other way we’re going to make it a rally tough second half for us. 

if that’s the logic, I get it. Losing Wilson for a month right now would not be worth a win at Bournemouth is the equation I suppose? They must have all the data on him as well. Where nuno and Moyes differ is that Moyes flogs a player to death if it’s what he likes. Nuno seems to want to find options so he isn’t doing that. In some ways he’s even more pragmatic than Moyes. 
But it’s tough doing that in this league where player ability is obviously not equal at this level. It’s really risky. 

but his experience tells him that’s how you’ve got to do it. So that’s what you pay for with a coach, their mindset, their decision making etc. got to let him get in with it and see if we get the points in or not. That’s all that matters right now. 
 

[Massive Attack]

Wolves and Burnley are going back down. Leeds, Forest (who I think will get out of it) and us will fill the last spot. That's why the Leeds games tactics were so fucking infuriating for me to see Nuno experiment like a nutty professor in such a game.

..Fucking hell, I've just seen who our last game of the season is against!

[Fauxstralian]

Forest showed yesterday that they are a decent side now Dyche has got hold of them even before Wood comes back
Fulham have had trouble scoring but think they will also be ok

That leaves 3 of 4 … us , Leeds Burnley & Wolves
Tough run of games coming and we need a big improvement 
Its going to be a long desperate season

[Lee Trundle]

Aerola showing us why it was madness chucking all that money at a goalkeeper in the summer when we had limited funds.

Kilman showing us why he was a non-league footballer who is somehow playing in the Premier League.

We were absolutely dreadful.  It's going to be a long, disgusting season, even if we stay up.

[BRANDED]

The selections and subs seemed panicky. Like Nuno hadnt learnt why we had improved. 
 

[Massive Attack]

He scored and lasted 71 minutes in the last game 2 weeks ago before Nuno took him off then. Wilsons fitness concerns and injuries are long gone back in January now. All this bitty minutes action and constantly taking him off could potentially demoralise him, not inspire him to keep scoring with limited time. I reckon he'd actually benefit now to compete a full game or the very least 80+ minutes. Get the points sewn up first before dicking about creating issues that aren't there regarding injury concerns or the like.

[Fauxstralian]

After 2 weeks off working on his fitness Wilson can only last 52mins?
Ideally he does 70 and until we can get to January and buy a striker then Soucek comes on (not in midfield!)
Taking off Fernandes so we can’t keep the ball. Why?
Seems obvious that Fullkrug & Guilherme have to be out the door  to finance reinforcements 
If we could move Kilman on that would be a bonus. A massive bonus 
Can’t believe I’m asking … is Mavropanos fit yet? 

[Massive Attack]

Fuck me! We drew, we didn’t lose.

Only by fortune in the end and some wonder saves from Areola. 

West Ham:

3 Shots at goal - 2 on target - 2 goals (Wilson Centre Foreward clinical masterclass 1st halfthen decides to take gim off early!)

24% possession 


Bournemouth:

21 Shots at goal - 8 on target - 2 goals

76% possession 


Jammy cunts to get away with a point thanks to Wilson, who it appears Nuno seems to have a bit of a problem with going by how he ignored him tp begin with and now takes him off whilst on scoring fire. Bizarre relationship he has with him going by what we've seen so far.

[Eastside surge]

Watched the highlights from yesterday and got to agree with other posters on here that kilman is an absolutely awful footballer and one of the weakest centre half’s we’ve ever had !

[twoleftfeet]

Fuck me! We drew, we didn’t lose.

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

No wonder the Bournemouth gaffer is pissed off.
We absolutely mugged em off today...and it definitely wasn't by design.
 Outclassed in every department....except the keeper.
Shambles of a club.
Should have been 8-1 if fairness had anything to do with it.
Football eh?..
That second half  was without a doubt one of the most clueless  displays I've ever seen...( Mark 
Robson written all over it)...he has form for with  the U21s ...
Embarrassing stuff.

 

[Sydney_Iron]

2 points dropped rather than respect the point

[Gary Strodders shank]

The problem is we have a weak spine

We lack leadership and character 

Pound for pound Kilman and Fulkruig aren't fit to wear the shirt in my opinion.
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Killman is simply nicking a living masquerading as a footballer on a nine year deal 

The last man you would want in the trenches or a dog fight.

The Big Fucking German is just a big fucking fraud 

A flat track bully who talks a good fight but ultimately has not punches 

A crock looking for a get out clause (mercenary)

Both the above are nothing more than big girls blouses in my opinion and two of the biggest piles of shit to ever pull on the shirt.






 

[stubbo-admin]

Fernandes only went off because he realised we needed a proper forward on and he couldn’t re-sub Soucek, and Potts was doing the holding role. Fernandes was our best player today, shouldn’t have stayed on. 

As it turned out, the proper forward he brought on was a jumped up wanker who doesn’t want to be here, couldn’t be bothered and was zero outlet. Think he only made one pass and that was a shit, lazy, hospital pass backwards on our 18 yard box that put us in trouble. Can’t wait to see the back of him. 


 

100%

[Ron Eff]

Fernandes only went off because he realised we needed a proper forward on and he couldn’t re-sub Soucek, and Potts was doing the holding role. Fernandes was our best player today, shouldn’t have stayed on. 

As it turned out, the proper forward he brought on was a jumped up wanker who doesn’t want to be here, couldn’t be bothered and was zero outlet. Think he only made one pass and that was a shit, lazy, hospital pass backwards on our 18 yard box that put us in trouble. Can’t wait to see the back of him. 

 

[GBHammer63]

I have no great gripe with the KWP>Guilherme sub and I don't think it did any kind of harm at all. 

But taking Wilson off just four minutes into the second half was strange - it felt a good 10-15 minutes too early. 

Truth is Soucek and KWP have been good subs in recent games, but the introduction of Soucek felt a bit too early.

Can't understand why Fernandes was hooked at all.

If he was going to do it he could easily have opted for Magassa or Earthy instead of Fulkrug and just rejigged one or two positions late on.

Broadly agree. For me the thinking must have been:

1. guilherme off injured...we'll be defending more with them chasing and the elements and KWP an intelligent player and done it in recent weeks....KWP on.

2. We cant get the ball to stick or compete up top with the out balls from defence and need a more physical presence, and support aerially, plus he's done well in recent weeks up top....Soucek on.

3. Soucek isn't working and we need more support, plus we're pinned deep so Fernandes chasing and running less useful over blocking and heading....Füllkrug in for Fernandes.

Not saying I agree, but you can at least understand the decision making.

Without pace on the bench to pose a threat on the counter, he only really had a series of bad options.

Think I'd have moved Diouf forward and KWP on behind personally as at least Diouf has running power on the outball.  I'd probably also have put Bowen through the middle to chase channel balls, and got Magassa on over Soucek since out ball in the air into that wind was pointless.

And I might have binned a CB and brought on Magassa to try and move the focus of competition higher up the field. But none of the options were guaranteed to result in a different outcome in that second half with the bench options we had.

Or not changed anything for a while longer, to make such changes at that time is the mark of a coward for me 

[stubbo-admin]

I have no great gripe with the KWP>Guilherme sub and I don't think it did any kind of harm at all. 

But taking Wilson off just four minutes into the second half was strange - it felt a good 10-15 minutes too early. 

Truth is Soucek and KWP have been good subs in recent games, but the introduction of Soucek felt a bit too early.

Can't understand why Fernandes was hooked at all.

If he was going to do it he could easily have opted for Magassa or Earthy instead of Fulkrug and just rejigged one or two positions late on.

Broadly agree. For me the thinking must have been:

1. guilherme off injured...we'll be defending more with them chasing and the elements and KWP an intelligent player and done it in recent weeks....KWP on.

2. We cant get the ball to stick or compete up top with the out balls from defence and need a more physical presence, and support aerially, plus he's done well in recent weeks up top....Soucek on.

3. Soucek isn't working and we need more support, plus we're pinned deep so Fernandes chasing and running less useful over blocking and heading....Füllkrug in for Fernandes.

Not saying I agree, but you can at least understand the decision making.

Without pace on the bench to pose a threat on the counter, he only really had a series of bad options.

Think I'd have moved Diouf forward and KWP on behind personally as at least Diouf has running power on the outball.  I'd probably also have put Bowen through the middle to chase channel balls, and got Magassa on over Soucek since out ball in the air into that wind was pointless.

And I might have binned a CB and brought on Magassa to try and move the focus of competition higher up the field. But none of the options were guaranteed to result in a different outcome in that second half with the bench options we had.

[Sweep]

I have no great gripe with the KWP>Guilherme sub and I don't think it did any kind of harm at all. 

But taking Wilson off just four minutes into the second half was strange - it felt a good 10-15 minutes too early. 

Truth is Soucek and KWP have been good subs in recent games, but the introduction of Soucek felt a bit too early.

Can't understand why Fernandes was hooked at all.

If he was going to do it he could easily have opted for Magassa or Earthy instead of Fulkrug and just rejigged one or two positions late on.

[Django]

Guilherme was bloody hopeless so totally understand Nuno hooking him  the rest of the subs not so much

I’d still rather have a quick attacking player who is struggling on the wing than a fullback who doesn’t know how to play there and offers us fuck all going forward.
 
We have a shit load of games between now and Jan. We will need guilerhme and earthy to contribute in some games. We can’t have kwp as our attacking sub.

He looked injured the last 10 mins of the first half. 

Fair enough, but then bring on earthy. Or put fernandes out there and magassa in the middle. I don’t want to see full backs as forwards, soucek up front, scarles at right back etc etc. It ain’t difficult. 

[stubbo-admin]

 

Exactly or just give Guilherme another 15 mins and see if he can up his game. We were hardly in trouble in first half no need for kwp.

Guilherme was bloody hopeless so totally understand Nuno hooking him  the rest of the subs not so much

I’d still rather have a quick attacking player who is struggling on the wing than a fullback who doesn’t know how to play there and offers us fuck all going forward.
 
We have a shit load of games between now and Jan. We will need guilerhme and earthy to contribute in some games. We can’t have kwp as our attacking sub.

He looked injured the last 10 mins of the first half. 

[Gaffer58]

Does Nuno think he’s some sort of tactical footballing genius as he seems to want to do things that just seem weird, 2 games ago it seemed he’d worked out our best formation etc, then once again he starts trying to be clever.