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Nuno Out

Posted: 27 Sep 2025, 11:00
by northbankfrank
2,500 posts by the end of the season?

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 22 Oct 2025, 10:41
by Council Scum
The best we have played this season is with a back 4, a defensive midfielder sat in front of the 4 and a striker, It also gets the best out of Paqueta as well. 

Why people are putting out different formations, without a striker or Bowen up front is lost on me. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 22 Oct 2025, 10:34
by El Scorchio
Not to leap to Paqueta's defence here but the fucker needs to be played consistently in his best position with some consistency around him. They all fucking do.
You're not goign to get the best out of him playing him one week as a false nine, then on the left flank, then as box to box, especially with a rotating cast around him. There's never any consistency in the line ups to build some familiarity. Even Fernandes is played in different roles each game. That is not how to get the best out of players. One role, stuck to, worked on, better play will come.

Under all three managers we've arsed around far too much with the midfield. We don't have a good hand for any manager to play, that's a given, but just put faith in three of them and stick to it. IMO that's Paqueta, Fernandes and one other, be it Potts or Magassa. They will develop an understanding of what each other is going to do and how to play with each other at the moment it's no wonder they all look like strangers every week.

It's a shame we aren't ever until Jan at least get a (decent) striker we can rely on to stay fit so they can get used to playing with them. That's also essential. It's clear Fullkrug isn't it, Nuno absolutely does not fancy Wilson, and Marshall just isn't ready yet sadly. At least Bowen and Summerville are constants in their positions.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 22 Oct 2025, 10:27
by eusebiovic
Rossal wrote: 22 Oct 2025, 10:16 Yep you're probably mostly right, but if the output of most of the useless overpaid wankers is close to zero.....I would rather try a promising youngster or someone else rather than watch Paqueta or Kilman trot out another 3/10 performance Friday 
They are all playing shit but I've had enough of watching Paqueta farting about chasing shadows every week...He clearly doesn't want to be here.

Maybe a Potts/Magassa/Fernandes midfield 3 deserves a go. At least they have youth on their side. AWB and Diouf on the overlap. The trouble is the central defence and striker positions are still very poor and undercooked. 

Otherwise it's the alternative of Guido/Soucek/Paqueta in the middle which sounds less impressive considering JWP and Irving are on the bench. We need a beast in midfield who knows how to sheild our nervous defence to make them look better. Where do you find one of those with our twat of an owner holding the purse strings?

Nightmare 😱

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 22 Oct 2025, 10:16
by Rossal
Yep you're probably mostly right, but if the output of most of the useless overpaid wankers is close to zero.....I would rather try a promising youngster or someone else rather than watch Paqueta or Kilman trot out another 3/10 performance Friday 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 22 Oct 2025, 10:13
by fraser
Rossal wrote: 22 Oct 2025, 10:07
fraser wrote: 22 Oct 2025, 10:02 Why do any of them deserve to be dropped before others, they've all been equally shit and that includes Bowen.. 
I would say Kilman, JWP, Soucek have been standouts so far this season for all the wrong reasons. 

Paqueta seems to avoid criticism as he does some stepovers and is Brazillian but as a creative number 10 his output has been shocking for years now. 
His output has been shocking but so has everyone's but up till a couple of weeks ago he was statistically our highest rated player by these stats sites (yeah I know) but though he's under performing for him he's not going to be replaced by anyone who does better and will make us weaker .. It's a sad state of affairs. 

We miss Kudus because he at least got us up the pitch and away from our goal. 

I like Nuno but that was an abomination of a line up and the cսnt needs to redeem himself. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 22 Oct 2025, 10:07
by Rossal
fraser wrote: 22 Oct 2025, 10:02 Why do any of them deserve to be dropped before others, they've all been equally shit and that includes Bowen.. 
I would say Kilman, JWP, Soucek have been standouts so far this season for all the wrong reasons. 

Paqueta seems to avoid criticism as he does some stepovers and is Brazillian but as a creative number 10 his output has been shocking for years now. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 22 Oct 2025, 10:06
by Rossal
Come On You Irons" wrote: 22 Oct 2025, 09:56
Rossal wrote: 22 Oct 2025, 09:08
Sir Alf" wrote: 21 Oct 2025, 19:09 ———————- Areola 
AWB.   Todibo ( Greek is injured ) Kilman   Diouf / KWP
———. Potts ——- Magassa ——— Paqueta
————— Fernandes ————————-
Bowen —————————— Summerville

Thats our best 11 - 13 in terms of athleticism, pace and strength !!! And the bar is set fairly low in that respect.  
Impact subs Soucek, Wilson and Marshall although he would be tail end of games at best. Thats it.  might be wirth pulling the young lafs Kante and Fearon into the squad for minutes. They are strong and Fearon quick? 

Tactics will need to be low block, keep compact with 3 always in the midfield and sometimes 4 looking for fast counters to score.  Moyesball with real discipline keepingbtge shape and if you dont run u dont play. Then hope we scrape a few points before Jan and then somehow make 3 signings, striker, centre mid ( Bissouma for me ) and a CB the whole spine of the team.  

unlikely all this happens hence relegation seems to be odds on ?
The sad thing is that looking at that team, (which may be our strongest) is that half of it you are starting because there is no one else rather than you believe they have earned their spots and have been performing well 

Paqueta, Kilman, Magassa, Todibo and maybe Fernandes don't deserve to play Friday. The absolute state of us. 

                                 Areola 
                      AWB Todibo Igor 
           KWP  Potts Fernandes  Diouf 
                      Marshall  Summerville 
                                 Bowen 

Something like this is what I would want to see and persist with.  Stop playing the fucking useless slow ineffective cunts that we have to endure so far this season.  Play the youth, play the ones that can run and see where it takes us. 

I'd also not be opposed to Fearon starting to get minutes as his partnership with Potts has looked strong in the 23's 

Rodriguez, Irving, Soucek, JWP should be left out of the squad for Friday, whats the point in having them around anymore?  they offer fuck all. 
I agree with you regarding Paqueta, Kilman and Todibo, but what has Magassa done to deserve being dropped? He didn't play at all on Monday.

Wilson has to start over League One level Marshall though.
Well what has he done to earn a start?  Hardly set the world alight so far has he. 

Wouldn't mind if Wilson starts, but aside from his Forest cameo has he done anything?   Least Marshall has legs and adds some pace into the attack. Wilson might be better impacting the second half. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 22 Oct 2025, 10:02
by fraser
Why do any of them deserve to be dropped before others, they've all been equally shit and that includes Bowen.. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 22 Oct 2025, 09:58
by Mad Ferret
Rossknowsfuckall has a hate boner for Magassa and Soucek.

He's best ignored.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 22 Oct 2025, 09:56
by Come On You Irons
Rossal wrote: 22 Oct 2025, 09:08
Sir Alf" wrote: 21 Oct 2025, 19:09 ———————- Areola 
AWB.   Todibo ( Greek is injured ) Kilman   Diouf / KWP
———. Potts ——- Magassa ——— Paqueta
————— Fernandes ————————-
Bowen —————————— Summerville

Thats our best 11 - 13 in terms of athleticism, pace and strength !!! And the bar is set fairly low in that respect.  
Impact subs Soucek, Wilson and Marshall although he would be tail end of games at best. Thats it.  might be wirth pulling the young lafs Kante and Fearon into the squad for minutes. They are strong and Fearon quick? 

Tactics will need to be low block, keep compact with 3 always in the midfield and sometimes 4 looking for fast counters to score.  Moyesball with real discipline keepingbtge shape and if you dont run u dont play. Then hope we scrape a few points before Jan and then somehow make 3 signings, striker, centre mid ( Bissouma for me ) and a CB the whole spine of the team.  

unlikely all this happens hence relegation seems to be odds on ?
The sad thing is that looking at that team, (which may be our strongest) is that half of it you are starting because there is no one else rather than you believe they have earned their spots and have been performing well 

Paqueta, Kilman, Magassa, Todibo and maybe Fernandes don't deserve to play Friday. The absolute state of us. 

                                 Areola 
                      AWB Todibo Igor 
           KWP  Potts Fernandes  Diouf 
                      Marshall  Summerville 
                                 Bowen 

Something like this is what I would want to see and persist with.  Stop playing the fucking useless slow ineffective cunts that we have to endure so far this season.  Play the youth, play the ones that can run and see where it takes us. 

I'd also not be opposed to Fearon starting to get minutes as his partnership with Potts has looked strong in the 23's 

Rodriguez, Irving, Soucek, JWP should be left out of the squad for Friday, whats the point in having them around anymore?  they offer fuck all. 
I agree with you regarding Paqueta, Kilman and Todibo, but what has Magassa done to deserve being dropped? He didn't play at all on Monday.

Wilson has to start over League One level Marshall though.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 22 Oct 2025, 09:08
by Rossal
Sir Alf" wrote: 21 Oct 2025, 19:09 ———————- Areola 
AWB.   Todibo ( Greek is injured ) Kilman   Diouf / KWP
———. Potts ——- Magassa ——— Paqueta
————— Fernandes ————————-
Bowen —————————— Summerville

Thats our best 11 - 13 in terms of athleticism, pace and strength !!! And the bar is set fairly low in that respect.  
Impact subs Soucek, Wilson and Marshall although he would be tail end of games at best. Thats it.  might be wirth pulling the young lafs Kante and Fearon into the squad for minutes. They are strong and Fearon quick? 

Tactics will need to be low block, keep compact with 3 always in the midfield and sometimes 4 looking for fast counters to score.  Moyesball with real discipline keepingbtge shape and if you dont run u dont play. Then hope we scrape a few points before Jan and then somehow make 3 signings, striker, centre mid ( Bissouma for me ) and a CB the whole spine of the team.  

unlikely all this happens hence relegation seems to be odds on ?
The sad thing is that looking at that team, (which may be our strongest) is that half of it you are starting because there is no one else rather than you believe they have earned their spots and have been performing well 

Paqueta, Kilman, Magassa, Todibo and maybe Fernandes don't deserve to play Friday. The absolute state of us. 

                                 Areola 
                      AWB Todibo Igor 
           KWP  Potts Fernandes  Diouf 
                      Marshall  Summerville 
                                 Bowen 

Something like this is what I would want to see and persist with.  Stop playing the fucking useless slow ineffective cunts that we have to endure so far this season.  Play the youth, play the ones that can run and see where it takes us. 

I'd also not be opposed to Fearon starting to get minutes as his partnership with Potts has looked strong in the 23's 

Rodriguez, Irving, Soucek, JWP should be left out of the squad for Friday, whats the point in having them around anymore?  they offer fuck all. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 22 Oct 2025, 01:51
by Gank
West Ham United have spent more time winning against Nuno Espírito Santo (16 minutes, 21 seconds vs Nottingham Forest in August) than they have in three games with him as manager in the Premier League this season (zero).

Credit: Opta

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 19:09
by Sir Alf
———————- Areola 
AWB.   Todibo ( Greek is injured ) Kilman   Diouf / KWP
———. Potts ——- Magassa ——— Paqueta
————— Fernandes ————————-
Bowen —————————— Summerville

Thats our best 11 - 13 in terms of athleticism, pace and strength !!! And the bar is set fairly low in that respect.  
Impact subs Soucek, Wilson and Marshall although he would be tail end of games at best. Thats it.  might be wirth pulling the young lafs Kante and Fearon into the squad for minutes. They are strong and Fearon quick? 

Tactics will need to be low block, keep compact with 3 always in the midfield and sometimes 4 looking for fast counters to score.  Moyesball with real discipline keepingbtge shape and if you dont run u dont play. Then hope we scrape a few points before Jan and then somehow make 3 signings, striker, centre mid ( Bissouma for me ) and a CB the whole spine of the team.  

unlikely all this happens hence relegation seems to be odds on ?

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 19:05
by goose
‘Were’ not ‘was’ you cretin.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 18:38
by XKhammer
You was warned ...be careful what you wish for...you was warned 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 18:26
by Fauxstralian
I take it no one from Sky or post match from the press invited Nuno to talk us through not using his two full backs & swapping their replacements to the wrong side?
 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 18:09
by onsideman
No one can defend or understand that selection, but we have a truly dreadful squad. Of that there can be no debate.

With Nuno, the real worry is that performances have got progressively worse. That cant be right and isn't acceptable. Leeds is huge from that perspective alone

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 17:41
by Maverick180180
Russ of the BML" wrote: 21 Oct 2025, 14:38 That starting eleven was so bad I almost laughed.... Then didn't when I realised it wasn't April 1st. Even god doesn't know what the fuck he was doing naming that side. I cannot even comprehend the thought process behind it. None of it did, does or ever will make sense.

Did he think we could roll Brentford and then play out best team Friday? Did he think he would win with that side and get labelled a master of squad utilisation? 

Whatever he thought, he royally fucked it and he has to take accountability for it. I am prepared to forgive him as he is still settling in.... But, fuck me, he pulls another stunt like that and he will not make the ground up with alot of fans. 

Fucking tragic line up was almost as bad as the performance. 
There was actually people on here defending that line up  saying what do you expect?
It’s truly shocking how clueless some of our own fans really are 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 17:04
by Come On You Irons
Agreed. The team selection last night was almost a stackable offence. He needs a big bounce back against Leeds on Friday and to pick our strongest team, none of the bollocks we saw last night.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 14:38
by Russ of the BML
That starting eleven was so bad I almost laughed.... Then didn't when I realised it wasn't April 1st. Even god doesn't know what the fuck he was doing naming that side. I cannot even comprehend the thought process behind it. None of it did, does or ever will make sense.

Did he think we could roll Brentford and then play out best team Friday? Did he think he would win with that side and get labelled a master of squad utilisation? 

Whatever he thought, he royally fucked it and he has to take accountability for it. I am prepared to forgive him as he is still settling in.... But, fuck me, he pulls another stunt like that and he will not make the ground up with alot of fans. 

Fucking tragic line up was almost as bad as the performance. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 14:08
by El Scorchio
Takashi Miike" wrote: 21 Oct 2025, 13:52
THUNDERCLINT wrote: 21 Oct 2025, 12:02 Nevermind Espirito Santo, he's more Santa Mierda.

Ohno truly fucked that up last night and then had the nerve to blame the fans for making the precious snowflakes anxious. 

He needs to walk for that alone.

Puts that XI out and then blames the support? cսnt.
has he gone there already? clearly not long for this job
Not overtly. He said the atmosphere made the players nervous and anxious, so read into that what you will. He did also say it's on him and the players to give the crowd something to be loud about, which is more than Potter ever said, i think. It was a very weird environment in which to play a first home game. I hope they give us something to get behind during the first few minutes of the Newcastle game, because if they do we will give it to them in spades. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 14:04
by El Scorchio
The one thing I hope he does that Potter never seemed to is to LEARN from this and not do anything 'clever' like it again.

Play all our best players, in their best positions, within the framework of a recognised formation. It doesn't need to be more complex than that.

All our strikers are shit? Yes it's a shitty hand but it's the one dealt. Our worst striker is probably a better striker than the next best player who isn't a striker- who is also likely to be the best at THEIR position- so by moving them you weaken two positions at the same time.

Case in point last night on top of us not being a very good team to begin with, we voluntarily weakened striker, central midfield and full backs by not playing one of our strikers from the start, taking arguably our best (of a poor bunch) CM away from that position to fill the hole up front, and bizarrely weakening both full back positions by switching flanks. He could at least have switched Scarles and KWP to their correct sides, or if the switch was to get KWP on a certain player or vice versa to shield Scarles from someone, then surely just if you're oging to put KWP on the left, put AWB on the right, or if you're putting Scarles on the right put Diuof or AWB (who we know can at least deputise there) on the left. I really want to hear the explanation for what he did with the full backs but I expect we never will. He's certainly not going to explain it in a press conference if asked.

 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 13:52
by Takashi Miike
THUNDERCLINT wrote: 21 Oct 2025, 12:02 Nevermind Espirito Santo, he's more Santa Mierda.

Ohno truly fucked that up last night and then had the nerve to blame the fans for making the precious snowflakes anxious. 

He needs to walk for that alone.

Puts that XI out and then blames the support? cսnt.
has he gone there already? clearly not long for this job

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 13:34
by Sir Alf
Nuno got it all wrong and should have admitted to his part in what was a horror show.  Very worrying that he doesnt see our midfield cannot compete

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 21 Oct 2025, 12:02
by THUNDERCLINT
Nevermind Espirito Santo, he's more Santa Mierda.

Ohno truly fucked that up last night and then had the nerve to blame the fans for making the precious snowflakes anxious. 

He needs to walk for that alone.

Puts that XI out and then blames the support? cսnt.