The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[XKhammer]

Only took Two Tier a year to achieve this.

Still higher than Trump's USA lol 

[Nutsin]

[goose]

I see you are being deliberately obtuse and selective again.

If there are not presently US manufacturers of athletics shoes, the tariffs make it more likely that there can be. By the way, here's a list of 20 US producers of sports that you claim don't exist. www.allamericanmade.com/shoes-made-in-usa/

European shoes will become relatively cheaper to Chinese ones as you obviously know but are obfuscating.

Finally, as I pointed out, nobody gives a fuck if overpriced luxury goods get more expensive.

hahaha one line of New Balance trainers? i'll give you a grand for any of the others that you've actually heard of, never mind seen in a shop or bought. I reckon you'd deffo wear those San Antonio sneekers.
Redwing aren't sportswear but i'd say they are the only credible brand on there, otherwise nobody is buying those awful things.

i pointed out it was <1% further down.

European brands were more expensive pre-tariffs, they will still be more expensive if you now have to trade up to them because you cannot afford Nike/Adidas.

btw Nike/Adidas are not luxury sportswear, they're middle market.

Nike, Adidas, Converse, Sketchers, Puma all by and large manufacture in Asia. That's not changing.

This was what you posted: 'European manufactured brands are already more expensive and US ones don’t exist.' Rowing back on it after you've been caught out doesn't change that.

And your post about European brands is nonsense. On one hand you concede they will be more competitive (Nike/Addidas are priced out) and on the other hand they are more expensive.

And ALL branded sports shoes are luxury items. It's like trying to claim a £500 cricket bat is a necessity.

The words you are looking for are, 'Oh yes, I was wrong'. But by all means keep digging and squirming, you silly sod.

The original post you responded to had this in it: "Less than 1% of the trainers sold in the USA are manufactured there.".
No rowing back, less than 1% of such a huge market is nothing. Lets not play silly games.

The European brand trainers (not many of them either) were more expensive than Nike back in Feb this year. Tariffs means those Nikes are/will be even more expensive so if you're buying trainers then it will cost you more than it did in Feb either way.

Luxury trainers are the likes of Jimmy Choo, Prada, Gucci.............. if you think Nike is a luxury brand you're a mile off. 

I'm 100% right on this.
Trainers in the US will become more expensive for consumers. 
Now you can pop online and buy yourself a pair of San Antonio sneekers.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Which ones are you talking about? European manufactured brands are already more expensive and US ones don’t exist.
So you’re asking the US consumer to buy more expensive European manufactured brands or the more expensive Nike/Adidas.

whichever way, your trainers are now more expensive.

I see you are being deliberately obtuse and selective again.

If there are not presently US manufacturers of athletics shoes, the tariffs make it more likely that there can be. By the way, here's a list of 20 US producers of sports that you claim don't exist. www.allamericanmade.com/shoes-made-in-usa/

European shoes will become relatively cheaper to Chinese ones as you obviously know but are obfuscating.

Finally, as I pointed out, nobody gives a fuck if overpriced luxury goods get more expensive.

hahaha one line of New Balance trainers? i'll give you a grand for any of the others that you've actually heard of, never mind seen in a shop or bought. I reckon you'd deffo wear those San Antonio sneekers.
Redwing aren't sportswear but i'd say they are the only credible brand on there, otherwise nobody is buying those awful things.

i pointed out it was <1% further down.

European brands were more expensive pre-tariffs, they will still be more expensive if you now have to trade up to them because you cannot afford Nike/Adidas.

btw Nike/Adidas are not luxury sportswear, they're middle market.

Nike, Adidas, Converse, Sketchers, Puma all by and large manufacture in Asia. That's not changing.

This was what you posted: 'European manufactured brands are already more expensive and US ones don’t exist.' Rowing back on it after you've been caught out doesn't change that.

And your post about European brands is nonsense. On one hand you concede they will be more competitive (Nike/Addidas are priced out) and on the other hand they are more expensive.

And ALL branded sports shoes are luxury items. It's like trying to claim a £500 cricket bat is a necessity.

The words you are looking for are, 'Oh yes, I was wrong'. But by all means keep digging and squirming, you silly sod.

[Lee Trundle]

Only took Two Tier a year to achieve this.

[Nutsin]

[goose]

Well now is the chance for US manufacturers and those from perhaps the UK and other low-tariff places to sell some shoes that don't rely on slave labour

Which ones are you talking about? European manufactured brands are already more expensive and US ones don’t exist.
So you’re asking the US consumer to buy more expensive European manufactured brands or the more expensive Nike/Adidas.

whichever way, your trainers are now more expensive.

I see you are being deliberately obtuse and selective again.

If there are not presently US manufacturers of athletics shoes, the tariffs make it more likely that there can be. By the way, here's a list of 20 US producers of sports that you claim don't exist. www.allamericanmade.com/shoes-made-in-usa/

European shoes will become relatively cheaper to Chinese ones as you obviously know but are obfuscating.

Finally, as I pointed out, nobody gives a fuck if overpriced luxury goods get more expensive.

hahaha one line of New Balance trainers? i'll give you a grand for any of the others that you've actually heard of, never mind seen in a shop or bought. I reckon you'd deffo wear those San Antonio sneekers.
Redwing aren't sportswear but i'd say they are the only credible brand on there, otherwise nobody is buying those awful things.

i pointed out it was <1% further down.

European brands were more expensive pre-tariffs, they will still be more expensive if you now have to trade up to them because you cannot afford Nike/Adidas.

btw Nike/Adidas are not luxury sportswear, they're middle market.

Nike, Adidas, Converse, Sketchers, Puma all by and large manufacture in Asia. That's not changing.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

 

Nike & Adidas have both said they’re putting up prices because of tariffs.

Less than 1% of the trainers sold in the USA are manufactured there. There are no US alternatives. Nobody of any size or scale is manufacturing trainers in the USA. 

Well now is the chance for US manufacturers and those from perhaps the UK and other low-tariff places to sell some shoes that don't rely on slave labour

Which ones are you talking about? European manufactured brands are already more expensive and US ones don’t exist.
So you’re asking the US consumer to buy more expensive European manufactured brands or the more expensive Nike/Adidas.

whichever way, your trainers are now more expensive.

I see you are being deliberately obtuse and selective again.

If there are not presently US manufacturers of athletics shoes, the tariffs make it more likely that there can be. By the way, here's a list of 20 US producers of sports and other shoes that you claim don't exist. www.allamericanmade.com/shoes-made-in-usa/

European shoes will become relatively cheaper with reference to Chinese ones as you obviously know but are obfuscating.

Finally, as I pointed out, nobody really gives a fuck if overpriced luxury goods get more expensive.

[Lee Trundle]

Professor Sir Chris Whitty was responsible for government guidance that was believed to have triggered the spread of Covid into care homes, The Telegraph can disclose.The Chief Medical Officer has told the Covid Inquiry that he was “not closely involved” in decisions behind a scheme to discharge thousands of hospital patients into care homes at the start of the pandemic.However, government emails obtained by The Telegraph show that Sir Chris’s office signed off guidance for care homes in England, advising them that they could take patients from hospital who had not even been tested.Emails also reveal that Helen Whately, the former social care minister, warned colleagues that sending people with Covid into care homes “surely materially increases” the risks to residents.However, she signed the guidance off anyway after officials said that one of Sir Chris’s two deputies was “content with the advice”.The care homes guidance, published on April 2 2020, is considered one of the worst mistakes of the pandemic, and has been branded “irrational” by the High Court.Sir Chris and Ms Whately will face scrutiny over their part in the guidance during the Covid Inquiry, which opens its examination of care homes on Monday.Telegraph

I get the impression most of those who were hoodwinked by COVID are too embarrassed to talk about it now, BRANDED.

You still have idiots like joyo beating the facemask drum, but most people just want to brush it under the carpet and hope it all goes away.

[BRANDED]

Professor Sir Chris Whitty was responsible for government guidance that was believed to have triggered the spread of Covid into care homes, The Telegraph can disclose.The Chief Medical Officer has told the Covid Inquiry that he was “not closely involved” in decisions behind a scheme to discharge thousands of hospital patients into care homes at the start of the pandemic.However, government emails obtained by The Telegraph show that Sir Chris’s office signed off guidance for care homes in England, advising them that they could take patients from hospital who had not even been tested.Emails also reveal that Helen Whately, the former social care minister, warned colleagues that sending people with Covid into care homes “surely materially increases” the risks to residents.However, she signed the guidance off anyway after officials said that one of Sir Chris’s two deputies was “content with the advice”.The care homes guidance, published on April 2 2020, is considered one of the worst mistakes of the pandemic, and has been branded “irrational” by the High Court.Sir Chris and Ms Whately will face scrutiny over their part in the guidance during the Covid Inquiry, which opens its examination of care homes on Monday.Telegraph

[XKhammer]

Thought Trump going to sort out Ukrainian war in first day in office instead he's ignoring the biggest despot on planet and somehow blaming Zelensky 
Trump done a good job with Iran but he's a disaster with Ukraine
Mind you if Harris was in charge Iran would now have a nuke

[BillyJenningsBoots]

So that's Pakistan, Israel and now the Congo that have called for Trump to get the Nobel Peace Prize. Contrary to the nonsense rhetoric of the clueless left that tried hard down the years to paint him out to be a vile warmongering dangerous shitcunt.

Trump sorts Ukraine and Russias shit out, he'll piss the award and be revered for decades to come innthe history books. 

I cant quite fathom whether you are on a wind up or not? Hopefully you are and very funny too!

[goose]

Reform has 840 councillors you can't really
label them all as dangerous because of this woman
How many labour and tories have been nicked over the years?

So you’re saying you can’t judge a large group of people based on the actions of a tiny minority????

Except Eyeties as all are soap dodgers

I won’t call every ginger cyclists a nonce just because you are.

[XKhammer]

Reform has 840 councillors you can't really
label them all as dangerous because of this woman
How many labour and tories have been nicked over the years?

So you’re saying you can’t judge a large group of people based on the actions of a tiny minority????

Except Eyeties as all are soap dodgers

[OK_Guy]

A "bird" assaulting pregnant women and abusing little kids is a "little fracas" to you? Says more about you than anyone else.

I see Mandy Clare was a recent local Labour representative until she was hounded out for her views on women (women don't have penis, men do)... so hardly Reform by choice.

no I won't be voting Labour, Reform or any other shit Political-party

[Massive Attack]

So that's Pakistan, Israel and now the Congo that have called for Trump to get the Nobel Peace Prize. Contrary to the nonsense rhetoric of the clueless left that tried hard down the years to paint him out to be a vile warmongering dangerous shitcunt.

Trump sorts Ukraine and Russias shit out, he'll piss the award and be revered for decades to come innthe history books. 

[only1billybonds]

They has obviously forgotten about the Labour MP up in Runcorn who actually battered a bloke in the street in full public view. Going by OSD's standards, this means that all Labour mp's are violent thugs or have I missed something.

[goose]

Reform has 840 councillors you can't really
label them all as dangerous because of this woman
How many labour and tories have been nicked over the years?

So you’re saying you can’t judge a large group of people based on the actions of a tiny minority????

[Eerie Decent]

What exactly happened to them to make you so scared?

[One Sunny Day]

A "bird" assaulting pregnant women and abusing little kids is a "little fracas" to you? Says more about you than anyone else.

[Eerie Decent]

Lovely bunch these Reform politicians. Make us all feel safe.
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A bird having a little fracas in a park makes you feel unsafe?

No wonder your arse absolutely fell out when Wong just stuck it right on you, you absolute minge.

[XKhammer]

Reform has 840 councillors you can't really
label them all as dangerous because of this woman
How many labour and tories have been nicked over the years?

[One Sunny Day]

Lovely bunch these Reform politicians. Make us all feel safe.

 

[Nutsin]

I have three questions for you:
1. Trump introduced tariffs on washing machines in his first term, how did it work out?
2. Did you actually read what GE said about this investment? In particular why they’re moving and when they started this plan.
3. The real benchmark is going to be GDP growth, if it’s less than the Biden administration would you agree that equals failure?

No, GDP growth would be a part of it, but you can’t ignore the $88 Billion and climbing Tarriff revenue numbers, the deficits, Inflation, wage growth and standard of living, 

$30 Trillion in GDP with no income growth and high inflation does not equate to a good economy. That’s what Bidenomics gave us, it was not a good economy for the middle class, which is a big reason why he loss.

However once the trade agreements are sorted and Trumps big beautiful Bill is passed I do expect to see an increase in US GDP, a robust jobs market, lower inflation  and higher wages. That will increase the standard of living and will help pull more people out of poverty. 

So it’s not just one metric but if I had to choose one I’d say Standard of living for the middle and lower class is what counts most.

[goose]

I have three questions for you:
1. Trump introduced tariffs on washing machines in his first term, how did it work out?
2. Did you actually read what GE said about this investment? In particular why they’re moving and when they started this plan.
3. The real benchmark is going to be GDP growth, if it’s less than the Biden administration would you agree that equals failure?