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"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."

"'Young, black people have to work three times as hard' BBC"

"Lieutenant General MARIA Gervais - Chief of Staff of the US Army’s Training and Doctrine Command Tweeted a picture of troops leaving Afghanistan upon a transport 'real American heroes, pictures speak a 1000 words' Very true, apart from the fact that they were err, not Yanks, but UK Paras, in different uniform and carrying markedly different weapons Oh and previously said “What we’re seeing today is that we can take advantage of the virtual gaming industry and modify it slightly to meet Army needs and change the way we move,” Gervais emphasized. Only slightly? I'l tell you what Petal, lets put the Brits in red coats for the fuckwits of the world Anyway, haven't you got any ironing to do?"

"Swiss. Really, oh wow, thank you so much, maybe just maybe I was joking. Twat"

"Swiss. Really, oh wow, thank you so much, maybe just maybe I was joking. Twat"

Wils 12:47 Mon Sep 6 Exactly. I'd say society is going backwards at a rate of knots.

"boleyn8420 1:26 Mon Sep 6 ""Well isn't the weather lovely a proper Indian Summer,"" You know the term ""Indian Summer"" has nothing to do with the Indian Subcontinent? Dumb ass."

"Well isn't the weather lovely a proper Indian Summer, no wait that's wrong how about a proper sub continent summer, no can't use sub that implies something less. I know a proper Variant D Summer, can't offend anyone. I think it's healthy that we have to think like this nowadays so as not to offend the withering little woke violets, ffs"

The NHS we were all clapping for. https://senioronboarding.leadershipacademy.nhs.uk/blog-dear-white-people-in-the-uk/

"I'm not ""pivoting away"", my point all along has been that if you vote Tory, you get Labour. I'm just giving you more and more examples to prove it. Now YOU are pivoting away by changing the subject to BLM (I've made me position on all that stuff very clear since about 2015) Back to the point... to be honest I think we're looking at this from 2 different angles, just like the lockdown stuff. Seems like you think both sides of these ""woke"" arguments are worthy of good faith discussion, and its all about the best arguments winning. Which makes sense, as you're a reasonable and logical chap and expect others to be, and probably judge things by the inferred intention. But IMO the people pushing this shit are scumbags, our rulers have zero integrity, and everything that's been getting worse is intentional, and there's no moral obligation to give them the benefit of the doubt. So I'm much more sceptical than you and if something happens on someone's watch, you have to assume they WANT it to happen. Will happily agree to disagree..."

"You are pivoting away and I know that so I'm not going with you. You don't vote, fair enough. You also haven't got the courage of your convictions. You have a go at the government for the BLM riots, I remember you doing it at the time. Then you defend the BLM propogandists, and also attack the law that the government tried to bring in order to give police the powers to deal with the riots that you were annoyed at them for allowing."

"""You seem to be disappointed that there hasn't been a government that has controlled the public discussion"" Yep. The subjects of trans children and open borders with Afghanistan shouldn't even be topics of discussion in a sensible country yet they're government policy at our expense. Anyone pushing the sort of shit we're on about isn't acting in the country's best interests and shouldn't be anywhere near a position of power. The fact that they are either shows Boris agrees with them, or is powerless against them. Think that covers it. Do you not agree?"

"'I'll put it this way for you Hermit' Because I engaged with you in that last way you put it, and rather than continue with that you will ignore it and pivot to a different, more scattergun approach."

"BRANDED 3:09 Sun Sep 5 The ONLY thing that matters is that you bought the Sport, not why you bought it."

"Mashed, I'm not one of those that goes by that mantra that you can't have an opinion if you don't vote, but fucking hell, you've got some front ratting on like you do considering you don't. You need to pipe down."

"I'll put it another way hermit. Did you vote for: - open borders - state pushing of CRT - taxpayer funded sex changes for children - mass expansion of the welfare state - race riots and war memorials being vandalised - political policing - even more open borders Cos that's what we've got under the Tories. Did the Tories promise any of this when you voted for them? No. Did Labour promise any of this? Yes. See how it works? If you've got 2 people who work for you. One promises they're going to do X, the other Y, with X being beneficial and Y being the opposite. You pick the first bloke, and he immediately goes and does Y, then blames the other bloke. Do you trust him again?"

I would occasionally buy the SPORT to fuck off people who were above it.

"It's the media driving this shit and no government can control the media - not even the Chinese; North Korea maybe but everybody there starves to death waiting for the next page to load, so they just let mother nature take it's course and it's not an issue. The big problems it with a mindset that says ""I don't approve of Page 3 girls so I just buy the Sun for the sports pages"". You CAN'T but the Sun with just the sports pages, even if those are all you read and throw the rest away. You buy - and therefore support - the whole paper. The conclusion is that people like looking at topless women. Same mindset is now at work on websites - your click on a site page imply explicit support for everything that site carries, even if you don't read most of it or are even aware it's there. YOU don't have any say in how your actions are interpreted. The only option available is to not access such sites - not even to ""just check the scores""."

"""""There are plenty of Tory MPs and Ministers who have spoke and acted against this sort of stuff"" ....and yet it continues, and accelerates. The Tories have been in power 11 years and have an 80 seat majority. The only conclusions are either that they don't want to stop all this bollocks, or they're unable to."" You seem to be disappointed that there hasn't been a government that has controlled the public discussion to an extent where it has managed to control what people think and how they behave. I'm not disappointed about that. The reason why I am against much woke behaviour is precisely because it does try and control people's thoughts and actions, I wouldn't vote for a government who wanted to do the same."

I've also said multiple times quite consistently that i don't vote. Zero point as long as the options are Labour (destruction of the country openly) or Tory (the same as Labour but lying about it) and that ain't gona change til the penny finally drops with Tory voters that what they vote for and what they actually get don't match up.

"""There are plenty of Tory MPs and Ministers who have spoke and acted against this sort of stuff"" ....and yet it continues, and accelerates. The Tories have been in power 11 years and have an 80 seat majority. The only conclusions are either that they don't want to stop all this bollocks, or they're unable to."

"""Sooner people realise that the Tories are just as pro- all this shit as Labour are, the sooner voting can actually make a difference"" They aren't. There is plenty of evidence that they aren't but you choose to ignore any evidence that they aren't because it suits you to. There are plenty of Tory MPs and Ministers who have spoke and acted against this sort of stuff, and next to no Labour MPs who have done so. As for me, I think politicians only have a partial responsibility in all this. Most of the responsibility comes down to us as individuals. For example, when I complained about BLM and their racist agenda, I didn't at the same time support individuals who pushed the same BLM racist agenda openly. There was a famous sportsman who said that black people should only shop in black owned shops. I don't care for that sort of apartheid so I won't put money in his pocket for a PPV event. Who did you vote for and why?"

"You act as if taking it down will do anything? You think it won't still continue? If Corbyn was in power, do you think they'd let anyone get away with a blog post like twoleftfeet suggested? In fact, under the current government, could you imagine what would happen if an NHS employee/advisor went online to tell all black employees to read an essay by some alt-right loon and buy a book on the bell curve or something? No, it'd be ruthlessly stamped out, the person would be sacked instantly and probably arrested. Rightly so, I'd say. Begs the question why aren't the Tories coming down that hard on this stuff, which I think we both agree is just as bad? Only logical conclusion is that they don't have a problem with it, and only react by deleting the evidence when there's significant outrage/embarrassment. No point blaming ""the left"" for this. The Tories have been in power for ELEVEN YEARS and its only got worse under them. Sooner people realise that the Tories are just as pro- all this shit as Labour are, the sooner voting can actually make a difference."

"Also, who do you vote for?"

"Mashed, This will get taken down because a Conservative minister will tell them to take it down. You maintain that voting Conservative doesn’t make a difference. If this does get taken down because a Conservative minister tells them to take it down, will you admit that you are wrong about the futility of voting Conservative or will you ignore it and move on?"

"Mashed, This will get taken down because a Conservative minister will tell them to take it down. You maintain that voting Conservative doesn’t make a difference. If this does get taken down because a Conservative minister tells them to take it down, will you admit that you are wrong about the futility of voting Conservative or will you ignore it and move on?"