The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Fauxstralian]

I see government officials had seen the Mandelson emails to his paedo mate but reckon they hadn’t told Starmer who got up the next day at PMQ’s and defended him
I find that impossible to believe and obviously he didn’t sack him pre PMQ’s as he didn’t want to be grilled
His ice is getting thinner and thinner & he must be close to challenge given his pitiful year in office
Putting off the budget til late November means the country is on hold with business not knowing what is coming down the road.
Prime Ministership as rabbit in the headlights 

[Mike Oxsaw]

One of the saddest things is that despite the internet having been around (in it's current form) for a generation or more, the extremists on either side still seem to think that killing (off) the originator of an idea, once it is out on the ether, will also kill that idea.

Neither, it seems, is prepared or willing to learn and adapt it's activities to match to it's current environment.

We live in a digital world, not a binary world, and even in a binary world, 2 seems too big a number for some and their views & opinions.

[Fauxstralian]

I can’t recall a time where that nation was so divided and each side completely intolerant of opposing points of view
A nation flooded with guns & loud arrogant people with no respect for each other 
And each side thinks it’s all the fault of the other side
With a President who has no interest in unifying the country
Expect tit for tat killings and a civil war

[only1billybonds]

Sven.

You think Trump would have learnt from Hilary after she called half of the country a 'basket of deplorables'. And half of the country calling him and his supporters Nazi's and facists for the best part of ten years.  All culminating in a young man getting murdered because someone didnt like his words or thoughts. Sounds like the mind of a facist to me, maybe there are some dots there that could be joined up?

[John Drake]

So the killer comes from a Mormon family active in the church
With the parents gun lovin’ registered Republican voters
Disappointing for those hoping for a black Muslim transgender Mossad agent who escaped on a mystery plane

Trump asked on tv how the nation comes together replies that he doesn’t care
Seems to regard Democrats (ie half the country ) as the enemy
This won’t end well 

 

You're overlooking the Nutsin Defence that any facts unaligned with his own opinion are the product of liberal spin

[Fauxstralian]

So the killer comes from a Mormon family active in the church
With the parents gun lovin’ registered Republican voters
Disappointing for those hoping for a black Muslim transgender Mossad agent who escaped on a mystery plane

Trump asked on tv how the nation comes together replies that he doesn’t care
Seems to regard Democrats (ie half the country ) as the enemy
This won’t end well 

[Nutsin]

I vaguely recall some shennigans inside the Capitol Nutz - people died there too.
Violence is by arseholes on all sides but the vast majority of protests are unremarkarble especially here.
You paint all lefties as foaming at the mouth, violent loons and it just is not true.
I am a lefty but am a peace and love hippy at heart and definitely not violent even when I got battered by the police in the 70s and certainly not now. 

Sorry to hear that Zeb. But you have to admit what the left is currently peddling is at the very minimum unreasonable if not flat out ev. The response to Charlie Kirk’s assasination, not only from the extreme haters on the left but also by the Dem politicians and celebrities is shocking.

The USA has had an open border policy just like Europe only now we are trying to do something about the Crime and costs to our economy it has brought. 
according to the left it is fascist and racist to try and protect your citizens from rape and murder and crime. And if you talk about it then we will kill you or throw you in Prison (see Starmer). So we just have to sit back and watch the decay of our society and rape of our children.


Yeah, well that’s not gonna happen. Until now the only civilized protestors have been those on the right, but keep fucking pushing and you’ll have a nightmare in your hands that none of us want.

Do the right thing and stand up against the extreme left as a moderate and do what’s right before it’s too late.

[zebthecat]

I vaguely recall some shennigans inside the Capitol Nutz - people died there too.
Violence is by arseholes on all sides but the vast majority of protests are unremarkarble especially here.
You paint all lefties as foaming at the mouth, violent loons and it just is not true.
I am a lefty but am a peace and love hippy at heart and definitely not violent even when I got battered by the police in the 70s and certainly not now. 

[Nutsin]

It was his dad that turned him in.

I reckon he might be a good judge of someone on screen who might be his son.

Especially as he's a 27-year veteran of the Sheriff's Department.

Handing your own son in to get the death penalty is some decision to make. 

If l was your dad it would be a dead easy decision and without the encouragement of $100k reward 

His Father should give the $100k to Charlie’s widow.

[Nutsin]

I am pretty sure a mormon boy from Utah is neither controlled by China, Russia nor a Mossad agent or a trans activist. 

 

 

Probably Antifa is my guess.

If you go by the message on his bullets and his evil act on a right wing preacher you know he is not right wing.

However I’m sure the liberals will try to spin it.

[XKhammer]

It was his dad that turned him in.

I reckon he might be a good judge of someone on screen who might be his son.

Especially as he's a 27-year veteran of the Sheriff's Department.

Handing your own son in to get the death penalty is some decision to make. 

If l was your dad it would be a dead easy decision and without the encouragement of $100k reward 

[zebthecat]

I am pretty sure a mormon boy from Utah is neither controlled by China, Russia nor a Mossad agent or a trans activist. 

[Nutsin]

There is a problem in the world today caused by radicalism.
Radicals in religion (Islam)
Radicals in Politics ( Left wing extremists) the politics of murder, crime, rioting, attempts to shut down free speech, Grooming Gang sympathizers/ protectors etc


You’ll note there are only vigils going on in the USA for Charlie Kirk, no riots or looting or feral bahaviour that you’d get from the left.

Until we realize we have to stand up and deal firmly with all this feral bahaviour that is running rampant we will continue to witness unbelievable acts of cruelty and hate.

This is an all out attack on the West, probably manufactured and aided by China and or Russia in some way as this is a perfect way to weaken a country/ enemy.

It sure does look like we are heading to civil war, looks like people are finally starting to wake up.

Liberalism has become a cancer to the west.

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

I hate all Spurs fans as part of my footballing religion. Is that still allowed?

As a West Ham fan not only is allowed, but almost obligatory fella 

[Vexed]

It was his dad that turned him in.

I reckon he might be a good judge of someone on screen who might be his son.

Especially as he's a 27-year veteran of the Sheriff's Department.

Handing your own son in to get the death penalty is some decision to make. 

[zebthecat]

If they want to keep the gun in the consitution fine. However the type of guns you can buy should be limited. No bloody assault rifles etc.

The gun that killed Kirk was a hunting rifle. The same ones we allow here.

Good luck getting those banned.

You do, however, have a lot of hoops to jump through before getting a firearms certificate for a hunting rifle in the UK. The "good reason" rules are pretty bloody strict.

[Massive Attack]

[Massive Attack]

https://platform.vox.com/wp-content/upl ... c1YmRJODl3

Gun deaths have deceased in the USA over time. 

Also, most gun deaths are suicides.




 

But wow l didn't realise suicide accounts for 56% of gun deaths...actually another good reason to limit the access to firearms 

It's not a bad way to go if that's what they really want, better than fucking up busy motorways or train lines selfishly for others when done in their own environment. 

[XKhammer]

I hate all Spurs fans as part of my footballing religion. Is that still allowed?

Definitely...but borderline anti semitic and could trigger the loons on here 

[XKhammer]

https://platform.vox.com/wp-content/upl ... c1YmRJODl3

Gun deaths have deceased in the USA over time. 

Also, most gun deaths are suicides.


 

That chart was for homicide gun deaths up till 2010

But wow l didn't realise suicide accounts for 56% of gun deaths...actually another good reason to limit the access to firearms 

[Massive Attack]

I hate all Spurs fans as part of my footballing religion. Is that still allowed?

[XKhammer]

Of course criminals will always get guns
So is the answer to allow every citizen, every nutter, every dangerous mental case to have one (or more)?
Mentioned before the number of gun related deaths in Cowboy Land compared to civilised nations
How many schools have been shot up and children murdered in the US compared to every other nation?
Dunblane … was that 30 years ago? Any others in the UK?

Saw a MAGA women saying you couldn’t compare Kirk’s shooting to school shootings because the former was ‘a tragedy’ because he had family. Not sure what she imagined dead children had.

Dunblane was tragic because Andy Murray survived 

[XKhammer]

The perp STILL hasn't been caught eh. Mossad don't fuck about do they.

Clearly you're just another sickening anti semitic leftie loon and just as moronic as the right wing conspiracy theorists loons 

You're a moron. Charlie Kirk was calling out Jews hence the suspected Mossad elimination.

I'm no anti-semite. I hate all religions.

Least you're honest using the word "hate" as youre clearly full of it unlike Kirk
I'm an atheist and don't hate all religions,but Islam comes very close,Buddhists and Sikhs have my respect 
You are clearly anti semitic 

[Massive Attack]

If they want to keep the gun in the consitution fine. However the type of guns you can buy should be limited. No bloody assault rifles etc.

The gun that killed Kirk was a hunting rifle. The same ones we allow here.

Good luck getting those banned.

Hmm, that's a good point. The semi automatic nutty one's should definitely be off the Walmart shelves out there though, for starters at least.

[Massive Attack]

Didn't somebody once throw a milkshake at Farage we know how to deal with political violence against right wing politicians in the in the UK

And cement. We use the most random shit to aim at our Politicians, the Yanks could learn a thing or two...