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"We're gonna have a British George Floyd now innit. The BLM mob are gonna be all over this. Expect a load of shoe shops to be looted as a ""protest"". This country's gone to the fucking dogs."

"Swept away? You did you really have to sell up and move to the suburbs for that central heating, double-glazed windows and a parking space?"

"When both Labour and the Conservatives look utter cunts in their left if centre nonsense you know the root causes are going to be very hard to deal with. The Welsh/English,Rawandan,BBC, Dr Who, black, non immigrant stabbing, murdering little children cսnt is just one of so many triggers that will keep coming."

"Said it before and I'll say it again. You know nothing about life in the UK, you speak from a position of complete ignorance. Get yaself over to the Huw Edwards thread, there's a sex pest could do with your support."

"stewie griffin I can agree with most of that. I would add that the lack of connection in the target of the protests in Sunderland with what happened in Southport is a little unfair. Southport has been the trigger, but the grievance driving the protests are the broader issues you outlined further on in your post. My take is that much of the violence has been senseless and random, and many of the people involved are not the brightest. The reliance on alcohol drinking with pictures of them sitting around crates of cider makes them look genuinely pathetic. The cans are held like comforters, it makes them look like babies nursing their milk bottles. However, they do have a grievance and the sneering is a way of people signalling their social superiority to others. They call them knuckle draggers to let people know they themselves are more sophisticated. It's snobbery, simple as that. At this point the two-tier policing is clear as day. It's gaslighting to argue otherwise. And these communities the protestors are drawn from will be swept away by mass immigration same as ours was in the East End. So as senseless, stupid and self defeating their actions were last night, I find myself standing alongside them. At least in their cause if not their actions."

"Good example smarty. Normal, everyday people have had the fabric of their towns & cities completely changed without getting a say in any of it. And they're fucking pissed about it. Successive governments have imported the dregs of the 3rd world and then ask for tolerance when they bring their 3rd world shit with them. Meanwhile worms like Pickle are desperate to excuse the rapes, the violent crimes, the tax payer funded lifestyle and the grooming gangs."

"If you are looking for an excuse, even people being respectful of each other and each other's different culture will be an opportunity to demonstrate your outrage by behaving like a cսnt and voting Reform."

"If you want to see in real time the visual decline/change of a neighbourhood due to immigration then Google Longfellow Street in Liverpool, which is near where my brother lives. Start on street view at the very bottom end then work your way up. It starts off 15 years ago then switches to 2 years ago."

"I think the point, commie, is that in all likelihood these people in the North East are somewhat far right. Minimally islamophobic. Hard to come to any other conclusion given, as I said, this atrocity was carried out by a rwandan-welsh, bbc gentleman. With no connection to Sunderland, hartlepool or islam. There's little harm in calling it what it is. That apart, they're no more or less stupid or dangerous than the people who tore down historical monuments and burned things to the ground a few years ago in response to a death that occurred thousands of miles away. What absolutely needs to be explained is why on that occasion - and others recently in Leeds and Rochdale - the response was to stand by, and take the knee in solidarity with them, and on this occasion the response is to aggressively confront them. And for a prime minister to cause further unrest with provocative messages. He is the agent provocateur you're looking for in last nights trouble, for the record."

"Comma, you are talking bollox. Do you really believe that every single one of these protesters/rioters were spurred on by Robionson and his like? Do you not think that people are genuinely angry with the way some sections of society are treated/policed?"

Whether or not the people on the street in the North East are far right the fact is that they have been played like a Stradivarius by right wing agents provocateurs. At the moment these provocations focus on Muslims and their mosques but history teaches us that if these protests gain traction other targets will also be focussed on. It is so much easier to spread a lie and lead the gullible by the nose these days.

Goose Agreed. I would add different scandals and attacks over the last 15 or so years have always been downplayed by the media and politicians which have made people frustrated. Its all stronger together nonsense rather then addressing the core issue of there being a group of people from a certain religion (not all of them) who do not like our way of life in this country.

Oxbore: Idiot .

"Personally I think these riots are because people are feeling powerless. They've had numerous votes (Brexit, GEs) on which they've voted on the lines of immigration. But what they voted for isn't happening."

Good to see the riots as it's the only way to get attention to issues these days. Fuck Starmer

"solidbond 11:24 Sat Aug 3 Link to that claim? I'm probably far right if not wanting somebody else to decide what my wealth gets spent on without so much as a ""by your leave"". That includes any tax I pay. I'm quite capable of deciding who I think is in most need and acting appropriately at a time of MY choosing."

"stewie griffin 10:15 Sat Aug 3 Spot on,"

Somebody tell Edward that going out into the street all angry like that is ill-advised. We wouldn't want him to come to any harm.

The far right are now demanding that they're not to be called far right as it upsets them.

Fauxstralian 10:20 Sat Aug 3 Where do YOU sit on the political spectrum? Post up examples that prove and support your position.

"All this 'far right' bollox is as tiresome as it is laughable. Anyone attacking a mosque or burning down a police station deserve everything that's coming to them if caught but calling them far right is fucking desperate. A couple of years ago, parts of America got burnt to the ground and 22 people were murdered during the BLM/Antifa 'peaceful protests'. Don't think to many of that lot were/are far right but the nature of their actions are no different from what we have seen here these past few days."

"Can we have an example of a far left group of any influence calling for defunding the UK police? And then an example of the same group extolling the police as paragons of virtue And how many of these people are in Parliament or positions of influence Straw men Irrelevant people , if they exist"

"Far right , like racism, has been so overused that it doesn't really have much meaning. There's also a massive number of people who are far to the right of many of the nutcase ideologies that have taken hold. But... let's be clear... 3 children in Liverpool have been murdered by a second-generation Rwandan immigrant who was born in wales... and a group of people in Sunderland have set fire to a mosque. Pretending that's OK, or that there's any correlation between the two or any justification, makes you as moronic as starmer."

"There will, of course, be an official ""Root & Branch"" investigation into the causes of this. It has already been decided that the ""underlying causes are: 1. Far Right agitators, &, 2. Misinformation on the internet. That will be it as far as the authorities are concerned and they will certainly ""Do something"" based on that already decided cause to prove themselves right. Issue I have with that is that I don't believe that the Far Right (whoever they actually are - I've never met a single such person), alone, has the resources & manpower to create what is happening. I see loads of people calling others ""Far Right"" even on here, people who only know the political stance of others based solely on what they post (on here). In the most, the recipients of those claims tend to be people not afraid to ask (awkward) questions, which has never been an exclusive ""Far Right"" trait. Wanting or needing somebody to be ""Far Right"" does not actually make them ""Far Right"", it just makes YOU believe that they are ""Far Right. As for the ""misinformation"", the majority of that comes from the government who refuse to give open, honest, timely and verifiable answers to legitimate questions asked of them. Is it only the ""Far Right"", as identified above, asking those questions? Is a big burly builder ""Far Right"" for demanding to know when he can freely use little girls changing rooms because he woke up this morning and decided to self-identify as a woman? Does he need to go punch an Italian woman very hard to further strengthen his case? If the government don't fanny around with getting to the root cause of this and allow a fully independednt inquiry to investigate...AND accept and act on that enquiry's conclusions without let or hindrance, there may be a chance of getting back to the sort of society YOU want yo live in but have kept sctum about for so long out of fear of being labelled something you know you're not. But we ALL know what happens with such enquiries; they're generally shelved (often just because the ""right sort of people"" can't profit from their implementation, or, if that enquiry gets too close to the truth,leading figures in that enquiry structure are deemed no longer suitable and replaced by somebody more sympathetic to what the authorities want to achieve."

solidbond 2:44 Sat Aug 3 Re: Manchester Airport incident And it was only a few years ago that the far left were screaming for the police to be defunded. Now they're the bastions of virtue under attack from far right thugs... If ever there was an example of how thick...etc etc Two sides of the same coin. Similar in almost every way. Including lacking the self awareness to realise it

The people of Hartlepool hung a monkey for being a French spy. I wouldn't overstate their ability to get a prime minister removed.