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"Or is it Frasier :-) No date as yet, but It's coming back for a 12th season. Apart from the main character it's not been confirmed who else will reprise their roles, ie the brother, Daphne, etc. The old man has bought the farm now so doubt he'll be back. I'm a fan having seen all of them, but wonder if they just should have left it?"

"I've just read that Grammer's 18 year old sister was kidnapped, raped and murdered. Incredible that he can be so humorous after such an event."

"Haha, you soppy cսnt."

"Thanks for spoiler mate! One episode to go, it's not as bad as I feared, first couple of episodes were ropey"

"Finished the first season, it's still pretty crap but at least Roz rocked up at the end, she is looking good too. Looks like this is going to run for a while, read something from Grammar saying he wants this to run for years and develop the new characters, also said they still hope to get Niles, Daphne and Bulldog back. As you were."

It's warming up. Niles was bar far the funniest guy in there so it was always going to be a big missing factor. New shows always take a while to get going as you have to warm to the characters in them. Think Roz is also due to appear later on. Wouldn't rule out other returns if it makes it to a second season.

I read somewhere that actress Lisa Maxwell (only oldies will have heard of her) was offered the role of Daphne but turned it down as she didn't think the script was funny. She would be minted now.

Haven’t watched a full episode yet but they have started uploading clips to YouTube so seen a few of those. Reboots are always difficult and open to criticism especially if the original was so good. Just from the short clips I have seen it feels like the biggest thing missing is the dynamic and humour between Frasier & Niles. That was a big part of what made the original tick. Maybe Americans are able to view it differently but for a lot of Brits who grew up on OFAH it’s very difficult to take Nicholas Lyndhurst seriously in this role. It’s hard to imagine him being anyone other than Rodney and his look is so distinctive you can’t even change that. Lilith looks scary. Like an old landlady from a haunted castle.

Oh that's why you've got a long neck Pickle.....to get closer to the cosmos.....makes sense now.....

Yeah but hair are your aerials. They pick up signals from the cosmos and transmit them directly into the brain. This is the reason bald-headed men are uptight.

"Good point re just watching it for Kelsey Grammar. He's bald and he has a deep, rich voice, which are in the top five of my most fanciable traits in a chap."

"I was going to stop watching it but it's only 23 mins an episode, and it's still watchable if only to watch Frasier Crane, and as said it does pick up. Nurse - Agree, Lyndhurst is bad but the youngsters are awful, particularly Nile's son. It would have been better had Niles agreed to come back."

"I watched 2 or 3 episodes and wasn't interested enough to continue, though I might give it a go now people are saying it picks up. It wasn't Nicholas Lyndhurst putting me off, it was the younger cast members. Not a jot of charisma. The only scene I really enjoyed was a verbal spar between Frasier and his son over decorating their shared flat. Generally it appeared the writers were doing their best to make everything cosy and conforming as entertainment must be these days. Bring vack Bulldog!"

"Watched 2 episodes and undecided whether to move forward, Grammar has slipped straight back into character but biggest turn off for me is Lyndhurst."

Oops meant the box set thread. Could do a lot worse than watch a load of episodes of Frasier in order. It’s one of very few things (tele wise) thats had me proper rolling up.

"The original was about as good as comedy gets. Watched the first episode of the reboot was alright,will catch up on the rest later today (tele day today I’ll have a gander through this thread as got fuck all planned and the forecast is heavy rain all day). Not seen the wire might give that a go."

"Liked the dynamic of the old series, saw Lyndhurst was in it and decided that was enough to give it a miss as it’s only a tv show….."

"Hammer I am - I find that way of thinking rather strange to be honest, if you loved the original series than surely you would at least be curious to see it. It's just a TV show at the end of the day, it's not life or death or something to be taken seriously, lol. Go on watch it, I'm sure it won't be too traumatic for you, if it is you could always seek counselling."

"Sydney - Frasier was never ''non pc'' or never really had a 90's 'theme', as such, so no reason why a sitcom like that can't work in any era really."

"Stayed clear, purely because of how how much I love the original which I consider one if the best sitcoms of all time. Glad to hear its picking up speed after a rocky start though"

"Do these remake/re starts ever work? Quite a few of these shows are as much about the era they were made as to the shows themselves; Frasier is very 1990,s im not sure it will work in the same way in 2023."

"I think the notion that after four or five episodes it works better is correct. There's a lot of having to establish new characters, places, relationships, etc., in the first few episodes. Once done there is the foundation for things and situations to develop. It has got better as it has gone along."

"I think the notion that after four or five episodes it works better is correct. There's a lot of having to establish new characters, places, relationships, etc., in the first few episodes. Once done there is the foundation for things and situations to develop. It has got better as it has gone along."

"I must admit the trailer I saw didn't really inspire me, just looked like the average American comedy which it never was. As others have said I think once nines,daphne, ros didn't want to be in it they should have shelved it ."

Russ of the BML 12:58 Fri Nov 17

I did read a review that as said below reckoned it was awkward to start but warmed up after 4 or 5 episodes Happy to watch Cheers and old Frasier with the proper cast myself