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Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 23 Oct 2023, 12:12
by camel-with-3-humps
"Let's be honest, he's poor frequently nowadays. So many attacks break down on his clumsy play. Questions: Should he stay in the team? If not, what are the options?"
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 22:04
by Huffers
"If its not a tap in / header from a set-piece then or a turn and shoot in open play, then its not a goal. Except against Fulham last season where him falling over made 3 of them fall over. He has always been a dreadful footballer. Maguire manages him best out of all the centre halves. Just let him have the ball and run. Goal kick."
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 21:44
by Sir Alf
"Won’t ever have a bad word for Antonio, great servant and some memorable moments and despite technical limitations worked his way up from non league to make a good career at the top level of the game. This is a season too far. Not his fault but he needs to accept a place on the bench or impact sub role preferably in a wide role. One of Moyes biggest mistakes or oversight or incompetence has been his lack of understanding and know how relating to the attacking side of the game and what makes a good attacker. Combine that with an owner who has bought 50 failed forwards and it’s no wonder we have a mess"
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 21:06
by Nick QQQ
"At his best he was always streaky, yet he has never, ever had competition because Moyes only has one way of playing. It's actually ridiculous that he remains number 1 this year when his legs have gone and pace and strength were his only attributes"
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 20:28
by scott_d
"twoleftfeet Most of us would give them a go but no ducking way Moyes will give either of them a proper chance, never going to happen. Mubama (as said below) rumoured to have unsurprisingly rejected a contract offer. Say what you want about Ngakia, Ashby, Perkins and what you think their potential is, the fact is we tried to keep them all and none of them wanted to stay. That defeats the object of having a youth set up if they are going to be allowed to progress into the first team."
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 12:52
by lowlife
"He was excellent in his first few seasons at Upton Park - used to love watching him. A threat in the air, pace that most defenders couldn’t match and just seemed quite humble and honoured to be playing for us. It all started going downhill with that ridiculous accident whilst he dressed up as a snowman. Got him a lot more attention and he started believing his own hype a bit too much. A shadow of the player he once was. He never had technique or much of a footballing brain (I’ve still not forgotten the 2 basic errors in two separate games vs. Palace), but at least he would cause havoc and create one or two things a game with his pace and strength. That’s nearly all gone now, and we just get to see him giving the ball away more often than not or just falling over at the slightest touch."
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 12:33
by North Bank
"Antonio has been superb for us over the years but he's a shadow of the player he was, he's lost that burst of acceleration and his clumsiness is now becoming more prevalent and farcical. The fact that the idiot in charge thought we could get by this season with Antonio & Ings leading the line is a fucking joke."
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 30 Oct 2023, 19:37
by Mad Dog
Just read on a Finnish west ham page that mubama has rejected a new contract. Probably fecked off watching ings and.antonio stink up the place whilst getting 0 minutes
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 30 Oct 2023, 11:07
by Far Cough
"twoleftfeet, indeed: Callum Marshall's (18) amazing form for West Ham U23s ?üôè‚öíÔ?è Last 8 Games: (U23s) Sunderland ‚ö?Ô?è Leeds ‚ö?Ô?è‚ö?Ô?è‚ö?Ô?è Everton ‚ö?Ô?è Celtic ‚ö?Ô?è‚ö?Ô?è Bristol Rovers ‚ö?Ô?è‚ö?Ô?è Southampton ‚ö?Ô?è‚ö?Ô?è?üÖ?Ô?è Man City ‚ö?Ô?è?üÖ?Ô?è Middlesbrough ‚ö?Ô?è‚ö?Ô?è‚ö?Ô?è 2022-23 WHU U18 17 Games | 16 Goals 2023-24 WHU U23 11 Games | 13 Goals"
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 30 Oct 2023, 10:36
by twoleftfeet
Time to start using Marshall or Mubama. Moyes often boasts about him being the one to give Rooney his debut at 16 but his record with blooding youngsters is pretty poor with us.
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 30 Oct 2023, 10:09
by lowlife
"I've been critical of him recently, and maybe that is just an expression of how bad the team has been for a while. That being said, he's too old to make the impact he used to, often falls over at the slightest touch and is on a completely different wave length to his team mates. I'd have a lot more time for him if he didn't do those stupid podcasts and have in jokes with opposing team players about what goal celebration he'll do if he scores. In other news, I see that Lingard's move to SA has fallen through. I fully expect to see Moyes chasing him again."
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 30 Oct 2023, 09:41
by dealcanvey
"Let’s be honest. We create very little for him. Feeds off scraps a majority of the time. But in those moments me do give him something to feed off, if he has more than one second to think about it, he panics and fucks it."
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 30 Oct 2023, 08:44
by GBHammer63
"Antonio doesn’t walk into any other premier team, he’s won the fucking lottery with Moyes."
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 30 Oct 2023, 08:30
by dealcanvey
Can’t play with him. Can’t play without him. Paqueta up front yesterday after his withdrawal was a new one.
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 25 Oct 2023, 21:51
by Nobody
Antonio: can we do any better? Nobody is the answer...
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 25 Oct 2023, 19:58
by scott_d
"I wouldn't sign Traore, nor do I think he's any good. Just making a point. We should be able to do better than both."
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 25 Oct 2023, 19:57
by scott_d
"Chill out Manuel, there's allot more hate in your post than in mine."
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 25 Oct 2023, 19:55
by scott_d
"I am saying, quite confidentally, that Adama Traore would have been better for us up front on Sunday than Antonio who did absolutely fuck all. It is an indictmant to what Antonio has become. Because, to be fair, most professional strikers could have performed at least to the level that Antonio did"
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 25 Oct 2023, 19:54
by collyrob
There’s not much difference between Adama and Antonio. Certainly not enough to start attacking posters
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 25 Oct 2023, 19:47
by Manuel
"Scott_d - What a fucking embarrassment you are, never read such bollocks. You need to fuck off with your hate."
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 25 Oct 2023, 15:27
by Pagey
"Are you seriously saying that Adama Traore is better than Antonio? Do you even realise what Antonio has given us over the years? Like it or not, he’s been the consistent up front during arguably our most successful period in recent history. You can’t do that with someone ‘shit’ up front. Antonio has never been the greatest striker in the world, but the disrespect on here is truly unbelievable. Adama fucking Traore!"
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 25 Oct 2023, 15:01
by scott_d
"Sorry, Fulham snapped him up!"
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 25 Oct 2023, 15:01
by scott_d
"Sorry, Fulham snapped him up!"
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 25 Oct 2023, 15:01
by scott_d
"Adama Traore was available on a free this summer and Wolves snapped him up. I don't think he's amazing, but he's as close as you'll get to Antonio without being quite as shit."
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 25 Oct 2023, 13:11
by RBshorty
Hlozek name is being banded around again.
Re: Antonio: can we do any better?
Posted: 25 Oct 2023, 11:30
by Russ of the BML
The bloke has become a joke now. He'd do well to play regularly in League 1.