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1984 is already here.

Posted: 03 Sep 2024, 16:03
by Far Cough UKunt
Very prescient was our George Orwell:

Assistant Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police



and

Harry Miller



Unfucking believable.




 

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 05 Sep 2024, 13:29
by goose
Hammer and Pickle" wrote: 04 Sep 2024, 16:39
Cabbige Savage" wrote: 04 Sep 2024, 16:35 In 1984 young Picjkle try to join SB the polski sekret police but they say he froat too long and he have no upper body strengf
Actually I was still getting into real fights with pikies in 1984. Happy days.
I know SE London pretty well - let me know where you were having all these fights with 'pikies' in 1984.

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 05 Sep 2024, 13:24
by WHU(Exeter)
By “keep going on about”, do you mean my suggesting that the closest you ever got to fighting anyone in the 80s, would more likely amount to you having some kind of hissy fit in a student union bar, as opposed to being involved in several fights with Pikies?

I have no idea what you’re on about with the “sitter” stuff Pickle, then again considering your throwing word salad around on pretty much every thread you engage in, that’s not a surprise.

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 05 Sep 2024, 11:45
by Hammer and Pickle
Why do you keep going on about little girls, (Sitter)?

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 05 Sep 2024, 09:59
by WHU(Exeter)
I don’t remember that Pickle, I was more a Roy of the Rovers kid, but packed that in when Roy moved to Saudi-Arabia (or one of ‘em). Proper ‘jumped the shark’ moment.

that girl…you broke her glasses didn’t you?

c’mon, let it all out now.

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 04 Sep 2024, 22:43
by riosleftsock
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Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 04 Sep 2024, 20:58
by Cabbige Savage
Picjkle meens Pikies the fish. They eat to much carp. Picjkle deel with it. 

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 04 Sep 2024, 20:57
by violator
More like pixies you fucking fantasist 
 

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 04 Sep 2024, 19:46
by Full Rug
Hammer and Pickle" wrote: 04 Sep 2024, 16:39
Cabbige Savage" wrote: 04 Sep 2024, 16:35 In 1984 young Picjkle try to join SB the polski sekret police but they say he froat too long and he have no upper body strengf
Actually I was still getting into real fights with pikies in 1984. Happy days.

You couldn't snap a Twiglet in half Fritzl, you limp rat featured featherweight pathetic no hoper.

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 04 Sep 2024, 17:27
by Hammer and Pickle
Judge Dredd?

I used to collect 2000AD. Actually, WHO sometimes reminds me of the Cursed Earth storyline. You remember that (Sitter)?

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 04 Sep 2024, 16:56
by WHU(Exeter)
Fucking hell, who called Judge Dredd?

pushing a girl in a student union bar doesn't count Pickle.

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 04 Sep 2024, 16:39
by Hammer and Pickle
Cabbige Savage" wrote: 04 Sep 2024, 16:35 In 1984 young Picjkle try to join SB the polski sekret police but they say he froat too long and he have no upper body strengf
Actually I was still getting into real fights with pikies in 1984. Happy days.

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 04 Sep 2024, 16:35
by Cabbige Savage
In 1984 young Picjkle try to join SB the polski sekret police but they say he froat too long and he have no upper body strengf

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 04 Sep 2024, 16:33
by WHU(Exeter)
I do as it goes.

The law should be that whenever polishing, you should never leave a smear 

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 04 Sep 2024, 16:13
by Hammer and Pickle
WHU(Exeter) wrote: 04 Sep 2024, 16:01 Not just his opinion though is it?

the YouGov survey that I mentioned to you, (the one that you demanded a link to, even though a 6 year old could’ve found it in seconds) reported that a very significant amount of the population don’t even bother reporting crimes anymore. That’s how much ‘esteem’ the police are now held in, in this country.

if you still lived here, you’d find that many now hold his opinion. But you don’t, so you wouldn’t know.

my own view of the police in recent years, is that a lot of ‘em tend to hang around city centres, just in case anything kicks off in/near Sainsbury’s and Tescos, in between stuffing their already overweight bodies with the nearest Greggs. That incidents involving just one scrawny youth can see as many of a dozen or more of them turn up, and still take way more time than needed to deal with the situation, that one or two at a push used to d/w in a few minutes in decades gone by. We’ve been burgled, the ONLY reason I would report it to the police is for a reference number for insurance purposes. 

my views above are formed by seeing it, again and again.

no idea why you think your views are valid in any way on this, as I and very few on here, wouldn’t dream of going onto some Polish website and lecturing on the state of Polish policing. (Although I’d GUESS it would be a damn sight better than ours)
 
Do you have something to say on Polish policing? If you do, it’s no skin off my nose to read it.

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 04 Sep 2024, 16:01
by WHU(Exeter)
Not just his opinion though is it?

the YouGov survey that I mentioned to you, (the one that you demanded a link to, even though a 6 year old could’ve found it in seconds) reported that a very significant amount of the population don’t even bother reporting crimes anymore. That’s how much ‘esteem’ the police are now held in, in this country.

if you still lived here, you’d find that many now hold his opinion. But you don’t, so you wouldn’t know.

my own view of the police in recent years, is that a lot of ‘em tend to hang around city centres, just in case anything kicks off in/near Sainsbury’s and Tescos, in between stuffing their already overweight bodies with the nearest Greggs. That incidents involving just one scrawny youth can see as many of a dozen or more of them turn up, and still take way more time than needed to deal with the situation, that one or two at a push used to d/w in a few minutes in decades gone by. We’ve been burgled, the ONLY reason I would report it to the police is for a reference number for insurance purposes. 

my views above are formed by seeing it, again and again.

no idea why you think your views are valid in any way on this, as I and very few on here, wouldn’t dream of going onto some Polish website and lecturing on the state of Polish policing. (Although I’d GUESS it would be a damn sight better than ours)

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 04 Sep 2024, 15:10
by Hammer and Pickle
Far Cough UKunt" wrote: 04 Sep 2024, 14:46 Policing in this country used to be called police by consent:

In this model of policing, police officers were regarded as citizens in uniform. They exercise their powers to police their fellow citizens with the implicit consent of those fellow citizens. "Policing by consent" indicates that the legitimacy of policing in the eyes of the public is based upon a consensus of support that follows from transparency about their powers, their integrity in exercising those powers and their accountability. for doing so.

That has now been dissolved.

Now it seems they have turned into something that Iron Felix Dzerzhinsky would be proud of.

Wait until they build a Lubyanka in London any time soon.

 

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 04 Sep 2024, 14:46
by Far Cough UKunt
Policing in this country used to be called police by consent:

In this model of policing, police officers were regarded as citizens in uniform. They exercise their powers to police their fellow citizens with the implicit consent of those fellow citizens. "Policing by consent" indicates that the legitimacy of policing in the eyes of the public is based upon a consensus of support that follows from transparency about their powers, their integrity in exercising those powers and their accountability. for doing so.

That has now been dissolved.

Now it seems they have turned into something that Iron Felix Dzerzhinsky would be proud of.

Wait until they build a Lubyanka in London any time soon.
 

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 04 Sep 2024, 13:50
by wils
Hammer and Pickle" wrote: 04 Sep 2024, 13:34 All rather depends on the content of said offensive material, doesn’t it. In this case, it ought to be argued that finally the party in government has grown some balls and is not allowing some tin-pot shouty extremists to blackmail it.
 
 
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Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 04 Sep 2024, 13:34
by Hammer and Pickle
All rather depends on the content of said offensive material, doesn’t it. In this case, it ought to be argued that finally the party in government has grown some balls and is not allowing some tin-pot shouty extremists to blackmail it.

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 04 Sep 2024, 12:32
by SurfaceAgentX2Zero
stubbo - it's worse than that. To be prosecuted any person (including a copper or 2TK) just has to think someone else MIGHT have been offended.

A police state has arrived care of the 'nice party'. And not so much as a whisper out of the other bunch of cunts. 

It seems that opposition in this country now consists entirely of GB News and Talk TV. Even Reform seem to have gone on holiday since the election.

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 03 Sep 2024, 23:34
by ,
I don’t think that Orwell was being prescient at all seeing as he was writing a story, set in the future, which included things that were taking place  place in the SU that had begun years before WW2.

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 03 Sep 2024, 22:25
by wils
Far Cough UKunt" wrote: 03 Sep 2024, 16:03 Very prescient was our George Orwell:
 
Well, considering it’s now 2024 I wouldn’t use the word prescient. But he was eventually right. 

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 03 Sep 2024, 21:35
by riosleftsock
Yes, George Orwell would not have believed how bad things are.

Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 03 Sep 2024, 21:19
by Sydney_Iron
This is quite amusing; Will i get arrested at Heathrow for posting this up LOL im in the UK in a couple of weeks if plod are watching!!!


Re: 1984 is already here.

Posted: 03 Sep 2024, 20:56
by Hammer and Pickle
The decision to prosecute incitement to racial violence on the internet is definitely a subjective one. You may not agree with it but then again the idea it has anything to do with the George Orwell novel about how Britain has become a totalitarian regime after the Soviet Union has won WWIII in Europe is perhaps a little far fetched on reflection, right?