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Posted: **11 Oct 2024, 16:33**

I’ve just been put on a course of antibiotics, 3 a day for 7 days and they are making me nauseous.
Has anyone else experienced this? And what did you find works best to combat this.

Posted: **16 Oct 2024, 09:26**

Basil! Basil!" wrote: ↑13 Oct 2024, 16:35 By far the most BENT thread on here for many a year, and there has been some competition, and if you're siding and being grateful to the likes of Mike Oxsaw then you know it's fucked.

I would take Gank's advice and fuck off out of it, this site has already gone bent enough in recent times without this gayness from you. Stick to the music thread in future.

Oh I see Manuel is back

Posted: **15 Oct 2024, 10:56**

Basil! Basil!" wrote: ↑13 Oct 2024, 16:35 By far the most BENT thread on here for many a year, and there has been some competition, and if you're siding and being grateful to the likes of Mike Oxsaw then you know it's fucked.

I would take Gank's advice and fuck off out of it, this site has already gone bent enough in recent times without this gayness from you. Stick to the music thread in future.

100% - A new low for the site this.

Posted: **13 Oct 2024, 16:55**

This Basil! Basil! character has just gone straight to number one in my WHO Hit-Parade of Posters.

Take a bow son!

Posted: **13 Oct 2024, 16:35**

By far the most BENT thread on here for many a year, and there has been some competition, and if you're siding and being grateful to the likes of Mike Oxsaw then you know it's fucked.

I would take Gank's advice and fuck off out of it, this site has already gone bent enough in recent times without this gayness from you. Stick to the music thread in future.

Posted: **13 Oct 2024, 15:11**

Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑13 Oct 2024, 14:29 It is madness. Had a nice lady who came to me because she was looking for a new job and needed to up her skills. She had been hired as a MRS at Sandoz with a antibiotic-resistant bacteria remit but soon found herself sidelined and generally messed around in the corporation.

She’s now found a product manager’s position with the distributor of Fentanyl. No word of a lie.

The level of 'messing people about' in pharma is quite staggering. It may be the same in other industries but senior people get moved around all the time, and inevitably people have to show they're 'implementing improvements' in their new roles. After many years I've managed to take a sideways step away from this merry-go-round but it took some planning!

I've seen entire teams of 70+ field people recruited, trained and deployed at huge expense and then disbanded shortly after when the wind has changed. Pfizer in particular had a reputation for building and disbanding teams ALL the time at one stage. They are so big it probably hardly registered financially.

Sandoz are OK over here. They appear to deal almost exclusively in generics now so it is a relatively slow and stable place to be compared with much of the indistry.

Posted: **13 Oct 2024, 14:29**

It is madness. Had a nice lady who came to me because she was looking for a new job and needed to up her skills. She had been hired as a MRS at Sandoz with a antibiotic-resistant bacteria remit but soon found herself sidelined and generally messed around in the corporation.

She’s now found a product manager’s position with the distributor of Fentanyl. No word of a lie.

Posted: **13 Oct 2024, 14:19**

That’s modern science for you

Posted: **13 Oct 2024, 13:58**

Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑13 Oct 2024, 13:10 Plus while they are there to kill the lurge, selection of the right type seems as much an art as it is a science and the effect on the body as a whole is not any fun at all, as you have said.

This is so important now.

Selection of the right type is as much about NOT using them unless really necessary. Huge efforts are going into trying to educate those that still think antibiotics are a cure-all for anything from a cold upwards.

Many doctors have said to me that they have sometimes prescribed them in the past, knowing that the patient didn't need them, but just to get the patient to go away as many feel cheated and complain if they leave the consultation without a prescription.

Madness!

Posted: **13 Oct 2024, 13:10**

Hope you are on the mend dm. Like others have mentioned on this thread, one tries to stay off them because contracting an infection from an antibiotic-resistant bacteria doesn't sound like any fun at all. Plus while they are there to kill the lurge, selection of the right type seems as much an art as it is a science and the effect on the body as a whole is not any fun at all, as you have said.

But now you have to stay the course. I had a dose of otitis a couple of summers ago and believe you me I was grateful the antibiotics worked because nothing else did. Oh and don't forget the brine pickles (not the vinegar ones, mind you!)

Posted: **13 Oct 2024, 12:53**

Bungo wrote: ↑13 Oct 2024, 10:44 DM
Always happy to read/respond to a thread which I may be able to help with, however limited the horizons of some on this forum are. There are some that unfortunately are not capable of engaging with any meaningful dialogue or indeed just ignoring it if not of personal interest.

Hey ho!

Why didn’t he (and you) just ignore my reply, then?

Posted: **13 Oct 2024, 12:52**

Well, I took your advice DM and attempted a little empathy. I got through the bit where you were ill for two weeks, felt bad for you there, then got to the bit where in your desperation on the first day of the medication you went straight to a football forum that you use for music stuff (??) and you lost me there. Me? I’d have called the doctor.

I’m delighted that you’ve put me outside the bracket of Mike Oxsaw, there are definitely two types of poster on this forum with you and him on one side and thankfully, me on the other.

All this “we’re all united by West Ham” stuff is ok for the morons giving it the crossed hammers on holiday but if you’re trying to tell me that I should be onside with prats like Corden, Winstone, Edmond, Dyer and Brand because they say they support us too, you can fuck right off.

Now dry your eyes and get off this forum, the tablets are working now yet you’re still on here moaning. Enjoy the weekend, misery guts.

Posted: **13 Oct 2024, 11:10**

DM’s a proper poof surely?

Posted: **13 Oct 2024, 10:44**

DM
Always happy to read/respond to a thread which I may be able to help with, however limited the horizons of some on this forum are. There are some that unfortunately are not capable of engaging with any meaningful dialogue or indeed just ignoring it if not of personal interest.

Hey ho!

Posted: **13 Oct 2024, 10:30**

Maybe the admins may like to close this thread now. Thankfully the ‘week of feeling nauseous’ never occurred.
Thank you zebthecat, Mike Oxsaw and others who actually gave some good advice and shared your experiences.

and fuck you gank. You’re obviously a bitter twisted individual who is just on here to antagonise fellow West Ham supporters.
Id like to see how you’d feel if you’d been very very ill for a fortnight. Then put on tablets which at the time meant you were faced with an ever present feeling that your about to throw up. For a whole fucking week.

Posted: **13 Oct 2024, 10:22**

Gank wrote: ↑13 Oct 2024, 08:59 Jesus, what a thread! You’ve created a new submission to the forum, all desperate and pathetic, to tell us that you took a tablet and one of the known side effects occurred, and then it went away after the first tablet.

You’ve wasted everybody’s time here, DM. I can’t speak for everyone but I would hope that you don’t create any new threads this year. Maybe don’t even reply to any, either.

I’ve just been reading through your recent postings and you just come across as an unpleasant miserable sod who would appear to be on here to upset people. I’ve never understood the need for that, considering we are all essentially united in our love for the Hammers. That’s why I never get involved in the politics threads. You’re right of course that the nausea issue went away without being the big deal that I thought it was going to be. But if you were to actually have some empathy and see it from my point of view. I’d been very ill and put on a weeks course of pils and I’d taken the first one and I felt like I was going to throw up. Nausea is an absolutely horrible sensation. At the time I had every reason to believe that if I undertake the course of pils, I’d spend an entire week feeling that I may be about to throw up. Hardly an enticing prospect. I felt it may be useful to seek advice from some real people on here who like myself, have been round the block a few times and may well have been in a similar situation.
thankfullly some people such as zebthecat, Mike Oxsaw and one or two others have shared some of their experiences and offered advice and support.
   You on the other hand have simply been unpleasant and dismissive at what was a genuine appeal for advice. Yes you’re right that it turned out that I was concerned about a situation that didn’t come to pass, but that didn’t mean I was wrong to be concerned. Especially as it’s not unknown for some people’s body’s to react badly to antibiotics.
   Maybe you said what you did to get a reaction. Well congratulations. You got one. But as I said, looking through your posts, I just get the impression that you’re on here to antagonise people. Maybe something has happened to you to make you that sort of person. But I find it odd that someone would gain some sort of glib delight in doing that. If you don’t find a thread interested, don’t linger on it.
   This is why I mainly just post on the music threads. There is very little animosity on those. And if there is a thread on a band I don’t like, I butt out. I certainly won’t wade in just to upset someone. So, if there is a thread that doesn’t interest me, or that I disagree with, I stay off it. I dont go on it just to insult or upset a fellow supporter of the Hammers. I wonder why you do seem to do that. And do it a lot from what I’ve seen of your posts

Posted: **13 Oct 2024, 08:59**

Jesus, what a thread! You’ve created a new submission to the forum, all desperate and pathetic, to tell us that you took a tablet and one of the known side effects occurred, and then it went away after the first tablet.

You’ve wasted everybody’s time here, DM. I can’t speak for everyone but I would hope that you don’t create any new threads this year. Maybe don’t even reply to any, either.

Posted: **13 Oct 2024, 08:09**

dm wrote: ↑12 Oct 2024, 23:39
Thank you for the kind advice. Actually as it turned out, it was only the first tablet which made me nauseous. Maybe it was psychological. Or my system simply adapting to it.

Reactions to antibiotics (particularly nausea) are far from rare so quite likely to be real, although the individual's expectations do play a significant part too.

Our bodies are incredibly adaptable and side effects to all manner of medicines are often (to use the usual terminology) mild and transient.

There is a lot of research going on into new antibiotics because as most people know, they have been generally hugely overprescribed for years, and their general efficacy is diminishing. A public health concern at least as great as Covid.

Useful summary here.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/ourwork/prev ... tance-amr/

Posted: **13 Oct 2024, 03:56**

zebthecat wrote: ↑13 Oct 2024, 00:25 Glad to hear that dm as I was worried when i opened the thread.
Have had antibiotic reactions resulting in a couple of A&E visits and I'm happy all is well with you.

Thank you for the kind words. At one point my left calf was looking like someone had been pumping it with a bicycle pump.
and my fever kept relapsing. But I seem to be on the mend now. Only bummer is that whenever I get a fever it awakens my mild asthma which is normally dormant. Which leaves me with a dry cough for weeks. So I’ll probably be coughing until Christmas.
God don’t I sound like a right hypochondriac cսnt. I’m not normally like this.
I’m sorry to read of you having to go to A&E twice because of reactions to antibiotics. Did they get to the bottom of that? Are you possibly allergic to penicillin? Visits to A&E can be a right pain as they can keep you waiting for hours.

Posted: **13 Oct 2024, 00:25**

Glad to hear that dm as I was worried when i opened the thread.
Have had antibiotic reactions resulting in a couple of A&E visits and I'm happy all is well with you.

Posted: **12 Oct 2024, 23:39**

Bungo wrote: ↑12 Oct 2024, 08:38 Usual boring advice here but it's up to you to decide if the side effects are bearable and worth tolerating for the potential benefits that the antibiotics may have. Many side effects wear off after a few days treatment so how you feel at the end of the course may well be different to how you feel at the start.

There are different classes of antibiotic so a retun visit to the GP may result in being prescribed a different class (depending on what condition they have been prescribed for), but you will probably have recovered before being able to see the doctor!

Other medicines such as Nexium/esomeprazole or other PPIs MAY help but would be unlikely to be recommended for this purpose.

Hope that (kinda) helps.

Thank you for the kind advice. Actually as it turned out, it was only the first tablet which made me nauseous. Maybe it was psychological. Or my system simply adapting to it.

Posted: **12 Oct 2024, 08:38**

Usual boring advice here but it's up to you to decide if the side effects are bearable and worth tolerating for the potential benefits that the antibiotics may have. Many side effects wear off after a few days treatment so how you feel at the end of the course may well be different to how you feel at the start.

There are different classes of antibiotic so a retun visit to the GP may result in being prescribed a different class (depending on what condition they have been prescribed for), but you will probably have recovered before being able to see the doctor!

Other medicines such as Nexium/esomeprazole or other PPIs MAY help but would be unlikely to be recommended for this purpose.

Hope that (kinda) helps.

Posted: **12 Oct 2024, 08:30**

Fucking man up.

why is everyone so gay now days?

Posted: **12 Oct 2024, 06:37**

I was recently taking loads daily three different types.. Made the mistake of drinking loads of champagne in the Royal Orchid lounge before boarding a 14 hour flight.. Wouldn't recommend.

However there is a drug you can take with before to help soften the blow so to speak, but their name escapes me, speak to your Dr/Pharmacist

Nexium I think.

Posted: **12 Oct 2024, 05:16**

dm wrote: ↑11 Oct 2024, 23:49 I appreciate what you are saying and I’m inclined to agree with you. But I have been really really unwell and it has dragged on for a fortnight.
curiously enough the nausea seems to have passed though.

Such nausea seems to not occur if you take your meds immediately after a meal, so I guess they then get time to pass through your stomach and into your intestines.

Posted: **12 Oct 2024, 01:49**

Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑11 Oct 2024, 17:40 I've had this. The solution was to have them delivered, as an out patient, via an IV drip every day.

Pain in the arse if you've got a life, but being a retired old git was no problem for me.

Sorry to hear you can't even now get to the pharmacy
sympathy you wheelchair bound old fart

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