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AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 06 Jan 2025, 14:52
by Pub Bigot
I run several tests on AI and AI tools and curiously asked GPT for information on the disintegrated relationship between us fans and Frank Lampard Jr. After gathering all the information it could and a bit of back and forward with my opinion on the matter, here is GPT's verdict. 

Bit of fun on something that is very much dead, but thought AI's response was interesting, if clearly influenced by my opinion. 
Here’s my direct opinion on the matter based on the facts:Frank Lampard Jr.’s relationship with West Ham fans deteriorated due to a combination of circumstances, but much of the fallout seems overly inflamed by his inability to handle criticism maturely. The nepotism accusations likely stemmed from the natural tensions that arise when family ties are involved, but it’s equally clear that Lampard had genuine talent, as proven by his incredible career post-West Ham. Harry Redknapp and Frank Lampard Sr. probably saw his potential and gave him opportunities that, in hindsight, were justified.However, Lampard Jr.’s thin-skinned reactions to criticism, both during and after his West Ham tenure, exacerbated the animosity. The moment he began taking personal offense to decisions made by the club's ownership and deflecting blame onto fans, he alienated a supporter base that often idolizes former players. It feels like he held a grudge against the wrong people—West Ham fans had no control over his father and uncle’s departure, which was a business decision made by the club’s ownership.On the fans’ side, the response to his injury at Villa Park, if it truly happened as he perceived it, was disgraceful and likely played a significant role in souring his feelings. However, Lampard's later badge-kissing and digs at West Ham showed a lack of emotional intelligence. Fans are passionate and protective of their club, and acts like these were unnecessary provocations that widened the rift.Ultimately, Frank Lampard Jr. seems to struggle with a fragile ego, which has made it difficult for him to reconcile with a club and fanbase that helped shape his career. This is a shame, as he should be remembered fondly for his contributions, just like the Ferdinand brothers, Joe Cole, and Michael Carrick. Instead, his perceived victimhood and inability to let go of old wounds have tainted what could have been a legacy of mutual respect.

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 09 Jan 2025, 03:05
by Monsieur merde de cheval
Russ of the BML" wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 16:14 Pretty much a decent assessment. 
Is that you opinion or your AI 's..?

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 09 Jan 2025, 02:48
by Monsieur merde de cheval
WHU(Exeter) wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 11:31 He brought it on himself.

Interviews starting with how he didn’t think of the club or fans anymore, followed by several mentions in the following paragraphs, littered with lies.

A bit like his uncle.
Like a lovers tiff gone bandy
We all took Jnr  and Eddie's departures  personal  ...it ESCALATED
Let's not forget Cottee/Shergar/Allen fucked off double lively too at the first opportunity 
If you  still hold a grudge its mental Mickey

As for snr..if you know you know

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 12:23
by Swiss.
Ladysmith wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 10:18
Swiss. wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 08:56 I think the majority of us were laughing to the bank when Chelsea paid what they did for him. 

Didn;'t pull up trees when playing for us and was always a scape goat due to his relationship with the manager. Then his old man being sacked. 

Probably had right to hold a grudge but dealt with it immaturely. 
Disagree you could see the potential when he played for us.
I saw a lot of potenmtial in Mark Noble when he started. Did he go on to be even half the player Lampard was,....no. 

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 11:50
by Lato
Pretty much spot on I would say.

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 11:31
by WHU(Exeter)
He brought it on himself.

Interviews starting with how he didn’t think of the club or fans anymore, followed by several mentions in the following paragraphs, littered with lies.

A bit like his uncle.

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 10:39
by Metroplex
Yeah I was quite gutted when he left, as he was beginning to show what he was capable of after a lacklustre start at the club. It was only when he started crying to the media and mouthing off with his lies and drivel that the fans turned on him.

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 10:18
by Ladysmith
Swiss. wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 08:56 I think the majority of us were laughing to the bank when Chelsea paid what they did for him. 

Didn;'t pull up trees when playing for us and was always a scape goat due to his relationship with the manager. Then his old man being sacked. 

Probably had right to hold a grudge but dealt with it immaturely. 
Disagree you could see the potential when he played for us.

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 10:08
by zico
Looking back on the 70's triangle of Brooking, Bonds and Lampard must confess I always wondered why Frank wasn't held in such esteem as the other two.  I mean 2nd in the all time appearances list and he hasn't got anywhere near having a stand named after him!  Both he and Frank Jnr worked extremely hard to make themselves players and deserve a lot of credit for that and personally as a supporter I always thought Frank Jnr was a good player, although would never have predicted the fantastic career he had, albeit elsewhere.  I did feel a lot of the criticism was harsh on him but as said below he didn't deal with it well.  To start with surely you don't knock the training methods of the club that your Uncle and Dad are part of and he never stopped having a dig.  As Swiss said "Probably had right to hold a grudge but dealt with it immaturely."

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 08:56
by Swiss.
I think the majority of us were laughing to the bank when Chelsea paid what they did for him. 

Didn;'t pull up trees when playing for us and was always a scape goat due to his relationship with the manager. Then his old man being sacked. 

Probably had right to hold a grudge but dealt with it immaturely. 

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 08:49
by Metroplex
One Sunny Day" wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 17:54 I remember being at a match when he was playing for us, where he got injured and stretchered off. The crowd  were applauding him as he was carried past. Later I heard him talking about the game and claiming the crowd were cheering  because he got injured. Massive wanker.
That's exactly how it happened. Then came the endless "My West Ham Hell" tabloid headlines from the paranoid fat cսnt.

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 08:32
by onsideman
Is that AI assessment of the older Ferdinand stiĺl being held in high esteem accurate? I'd be surprised

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 08:29
by mallard
Monsieur merde de cheval" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 01:05
mallard wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 18:13 The saddest thing about all this is how our relationship with his Father declined
Snr was never held in the esteem  he should have been for reasons we all know about.


What were the reasons?
 

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 01:27
by Monsieur merde de cheval
One Sunny Day" wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 17:54 I remember being at a match when he was playing for us, where he got injured and stretchered off. The crowd  were applauding him as he was carried past. Later I heard him talking about the game and claiming the crowd were cheering  because he got injured. Massive wanker.
He took a lot of stick...hardly surprising if he took it the wrong way is it ...even if it's true

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 01:05
by Monsieur merde de cheval
mallard wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 18:13 The saddest thing about all this is how our relationship with his Father declined
Snr was never held in the esteem  he should have been for reasons we all know about.
I reckon jnr  had a massive boulder on his shoulder over his old man.
JNr  deserved  all he got for that poofter curtain barnet anyways .

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 00:46
by Monsieur merde de cheval
BerlingtonBertie wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 23:29 Absolute cunts the pair of them
You should pay a visit to Snrs boozer  big Bert...let him know how you feel

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 00:43
by Monsieur merde de cheval
One Sunny Day" wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 17:54 I remember being at a match when he was playing for us, where he got injured and stretchered off. The crowd  were applauding him as he was carried past. Later I heard him talking about the game and claiming the crowd were cheering  because he got injured. Massive wanker.
"You heard".   Yea yea....blah blah ..

He would make an excellent leftwaffe  politician though I reckon

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 06 Jan 2025, 23:29
by BerlingtonBertie
Absolute cunts the pair of them

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 06 Jan 2025, 18:13
by mallard
The saddest thing about all this is how our relationship with his Father declined

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 06 Jan 2025, 17:55
by Pub Bigot
One Sunny Day" wrote: 06 Jan 2025, 17:54 I remember being at a match when he was playing for us, where he got injured and stretchered off. The crowd  were applauding him as he was carried past. Later I heard him talking about the game and claiming the crowd were cheering  because he got injured. Massive wanker.
That’s my understanding too, but Lampard likes to play the victim. 

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 06 Jan 2025, 17:54
by One Sunny Day
I remember being at a match when he was playing for us, where he got injured and stretchered off. The crowd  were applauding him as he was carried past. Later I heard him talking about the game and claiming the crowd were cheering  because he got injured. Massive wanker.

Re: AI on Frank Lampard

Posted: 06 Jan 2025, 16:14
by Russ of the BML
Pretty much a decent assessment.