fully expect a false flag soon: israel will carry out a massive casualty event and blame it on iran. oldest trick in the book
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netanyahu was in london on 7/7 - coincidence???
Re: Iran v Israel
Posted: 26 Jun 2025, 06:41
by only1billybonds
MA.
Yep. The msm, especially in the States would prefer Iran to be left alone and thake their chances on being obliberated rather than give Trump an ounce of credit. Absolute scum to a man and woman.
If you don't already, give the 'ruthless variety' podcast a listen, they specialise in exposing the left wing establishment over there exactly what they are.
Re: Iran v Israel
Posted: 26 Jun 2025, 03:25
by Nutsin
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025, 15:02
The MSM getting hung up on this inaccurate "total obliteration" isn't what's most important, but more about the mission having the desired effect in preventing Iran from developing a nuclear weapon which would now take a huge effort, time and money (spent hundreds of billions already) to get back to the point they were at, let alone to fully complete their mission to build a nuclear bomb. The MSM are just salty as fuck because they just can't accept Trump played a blinder and couldn't have played it much better considering the circumstances.
The recent bombing campaign by the US in tandem with the Israelis wasn't just about bombing fuck out of their nuclear sites, but also destroying their air defence capabilities as well which has now neutered them to the point both the Yanks and Israelis can just stroll on by in their air space without a single shot fired at them in anger.
The other key detail about their nuclear capabilites is the mission wasn't just about destroying key infrastructure but also the fact they have now topped at least 14 top Scientists as well as taking out 6 of their top military Generals too, as it currently stands.
Make no mistake about it, Iran - the regime - is fucked and in no position to mount any serious assault against anyone, especially the US as the recent event proved.
Next step is to bankrupt the country to bring about regime change.
Re: Iran v Israel
Posted: 25 Jun 2025, 15:30
by Jimmy-mug
Alfs wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 23:13
If we'd let Iran enter the Eurovision Song Contest all of this could of been avoided.
haha!
Re: Iran v Israel
Posted: 25 Jun 2025, 15:02
by Massive Attack
The MSM getting hung up on this inaccurate "total obliteration" isn't what's most important, but more about the mission having the desired effect in preventing Iran from developing a nuclear weapon which would now take a huge effort, time and money (spent hundreds of billions already) to get back to the point they were at, let alone to fully complete their mission to build a nuclear bomb. The MSM are just salty as fuck because they just can't accept Trump played a blinder and couldn't have played it much better considering the circumstances.
The recent bombing campaign by the US in tandem with the Israelis wasn't just about bombing fuck out of their nuclear sites, but also destroying their air defence capabilities as well which has now neutered them to the point both the Yanks and Israelis can just stroll on by in their air space without a single shot fired at them in anger.
The other key detail about their nuclear capabilites is the mission wasn't just about destroying key infrastructure but also the fact they have now topped at least 14 top Scientists as well as taking out 6 of their top military Generals too, as it currently stands.
Make no mistake about it, Iran - the regime - is fucked and in no position to mount any serious assault against anyone, especially the US as the recent event proved.
Oh I don't questio for the motive for doing so, well aware of all that. It was more the point you think they're just waiting it out before snuffing Ayatollah which I found an interesting point.
I personally don't think that's part of the game plan and if anything their hope is that the Iranian people have the balls to try and topple him themselves.
If none of that happens then the status quote under the Ayatollah is about as preferable as it can be, without going in to yet another unpredictable forever war. Considering they have fuck all nuclear capabilites for a very long time (if that is now the case which seems highly likely) and heavily depleted arms/air defence as it's proven with Israel coming and going as they please through Iran's air space, Iran can't achieve much now.
I think the rest is now, rightly, over to the Iranian people..
Next stop, Putin in the Ukraine/Russia War which is arguably more important now.. (which I suspect will also get resolved under Trump).
OK_Guy wrote: ↑24 Jun 2025, 19:29
... one can hope that the beardy-one feels safe to leave his bunker to conduct Friday-Prayers in the next few weeks, it'll be interesting.
Hmm, you reckon that's part of the thinking and that maybe 1 day we'll find out he's just took him out? Clever shit if that was part of the thinking.
probably Israel's Mossad will take him out, there's a lot of opposition to the Islamist regime in Iran, over half the population hate the hierarchy (some put it at 70% want change), people live under constant threat from the authorities, imo, no better than ISIS, it's what happens after... so far in Syria it's regime change has been good but, they'll have to deal with the ISIS problem in the future, good luck with that lil' nugget.
there will be no peace in the middle-east until it's sorted one way or other... Iran or Israel cannot co-exist as it is.
Re: Iran v Israel
Posted: 24 Jun 2025, 19:38
by Massive Attack
OK_Guy wrote: ↑24 Jun 2025, 19:29
... one can hope that the beardy-one feels safe to leave his bunker to conduct Friday-Prayers in the next few weeks, it'll be interesting.
Hmm, you reckon that's part of the thinking and that maybe 1 day we'll find out he's just took him out? Clever shit if that was part of the thinking.
Re: Iran v Israel
Posted: 24 Jun 2025, 19:29
by OK_Guy
he would've been seen as a war-monger if he carried on supporting Israel at this time, what he did the other day (if it worked?) was genius, he got involved for a specific reason and said that was it, in the meantime he hinted that regime change was preferable. The breathing space will also allow the US to replenish Israel's weaponry... one can hope that the beardy-one feels safe to leave his bunker to conduct Friday-Prayers in the next few weeks, it'll be interesting.
Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jun 2025, 17:41
The best part is watching the liberals falling all over themselves to try and come up With a narrative.
They’d rather live in a world where Iran, a terrorist state has a nuke to terrorize us all with.
Can Only imagine what would have happened if cackling Kamala was in charge.
Thank goodness for Trump!
Now he is on his way to make sure NATO members pay their dues.
MAGA!
Where winners win!
the truce between Israel & Iran is only temporary, it will last whilst the NATO natter over cost convenes. There would be nothing worse for Trump to be seen as a war-monger, it goes against his rhetoric as a peace-negotiator, he's a salesman at the end of the day and there's arms-deals to be done, everything else can wait... about a week after the end of the NATO convention expect it all to kick off again, one of Iran's proxies (or Iran itself) will fire a missel at Israel and that will enable Israel to retaliate... listen to Trump, background noise is that regime change is the only way to achieve lasting peace, the job is not done, it's smoke 'n mirrors time.
Not an outlandish claim, I can see it happening.
Not sure about Trump being seen as a war monger though.
peace through strength seems to work.
Re: Iran v Israel
Posted: 24 Jun 2025, 19:15
by OK_Guy
Nutsin wrote: ↑24 Jun 2025, 17:41
The best part is watching the liberals falling all over themselves to try and come up With a narrative.
They’d rather live in a world where Iran, a terrorist state has a nuke to terrorize us all with.
Can Only imagine what would have happened if cackling Kamala was in charge.
Thank goodness for Trump!
Now he is on his way to make sure NATO members pay their dues.
MAGA!
Where winners win!
the truce between Israel & Iran is only temporary, it will last whilst the NATO natter over cost convenes. There would be nothing worse for Trump to be seen as a war-monger, it goes against his rhetoric as a peace-negotiator, he's a salesman at the end of the day and there's arms-deals to be done, everything else can wait... about a week after the end of the NATO convention expect it all to kick off again, one of Iran's proxies (or Iran itself) will fire a missile at Israel and that will enable Israel to retaliate... listen to Trump, background noise is that regime change is the only way to achieve lasting peace, the job is not done, it's smoke 'n mirrors time.
Re: Iran v Israel
Posted: 24 Jun 2025, 17:41
by Nutsin
The best part is watching the liberals falling all over themselves to try and come up With a narrative.
They’d rather live in a world where Iran, a terrorist state has a nuke to terrorize us all with.
Can Only imagine what would have happened if cackling Kamala was in charge.
Thank goodness for Trump!
Now he is on his way to make sure NATO members pay their dues.
MAGA!
Where winners win!
Re: Iran v Israel
Posted: 24 Jun 2025, 14:33
by Massive Attack
Meanwhile over at Gaza..
As suspected it's been Hamas causing the issues between the Gazans getting Aid and being killed by them. Sooner trust Kemps observations than those terrorist wankers who the weirdo left and luvvies would prefer to lap up their propaganda like moronic thickos. GENOcide my arse.
Re: Iran v Israel
Posted: 24 Jun 2025, 14:23
by Massive Attack
Trump has never been a warmonger, no matter how much the MSM and the left try to paint him out to be one. When he does rarely act, it's always targetted and swift.
The only way that'll change is if someone pushes him in to one then he won't be afraid to take them head on which would be the wrong move for the Ayatollah.
Re: Iran v Israel
Posted: 24 Jun 2025, 14:15
by Lee Trundle
WHU(Exeter) wrote: ↑24 Jun 2025, 14:07
Seems Trump is now unhappy with Israel and Iran for breaking the ceasefire.
I was in two minds about Trump, but beginning more to think that he does actually want peaceful resolutions rather than more wars.
When promoting the ceasefire though, perhaps someone could’ve mentioned to him that Israel have broken their ceasefire with the Lebanon over 50 times, whilst Lebanon have broken it zero.
I wonder how this one will pan out?
I think he's quite keen to be seen as someone who wasn't a warmonger.
However, Trump's always had a hard-on for going in on Iran. Given the way they've acted, I'd probably be the same.
Re: Iran v Israel
Posted: 24 Jun 2025, 14:07
by WHU(Exeter)
LT, that’s a fair point.
Re: Iran v Israel
Posted: 24 Jun 2025, 14:07
by WHU(Exeter)
Seems Trump is now unhappy with Israel and Iran for breaking the ceasefire.
I was in two minds about Trump, but beginning more to think that he does actually want peaceful resolutions rather than more wars.
When promoting the ceasefire though, perhaps someone could’ve mentioned to him that Israel have broken their ceasefire with the Lebanon over 50 times, whilst Lebanon have broken it zero.
I wonder how this one will pan out?
Re: Iran v Israel
Posted: 24 Jun 2025, 13:49
by Lee Trundle
WHU(Exeter) wrote: ↑24 Jun 2025, 12:37
Maybe any diplomatic efforts should be left to Britain?
Not for me.
Re: Iran v Israel
Posted: 24 Jun 2025, 13:37
by Massive Attack
Hear, Hear Don!
Re: Iran v Israel
Posted: 24 Jun 2025, 13:18
by Swiss.
I see now that China is sending Iran weapns the US and Israel have chickened out. Taking out pathetic Iraq is one thing. Iran is whole different kettle of fish.
Monsieur merde de cheval" wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025, 03:35
If I was Donald Id blow all the a..r..a.b.s and s nack bars into the eternal realm of noncery
No wonder Hollywood love the cunts
So you think Iran is full of Arab terrorists?
Iran is Persian and not Arab, the attack on the church was by ISIS (they kill Christians for fun & virgins), I daresay it has nothing to do with Iran, more a warning to Syria which had large ISIS encampments.
The whole region could go up Shia v Sunni, btw ISIS is Sunni.
Yes I know Persians are Ayran. In fact the craddle of the Indo European people including us. I just wanted to test some of the ignorant cretins on here referring to them as Arabs.
Re: Iran v Israel
Posted: 24 Jun 2025, 12:42
by Mike Oxsaw
WHU(Exeter) wrote: ↑24 Jun 2025, 12:37
There was already a deal in place, whereas Iran was abiding by levels set by the US, Britain, Germany and others. Those levels were being verified by the IAEA and at the time the levels were being kept in check (according to the IAEA).
As evil as the Iranian regime might be, it was not them who reneged on that deal and Britain and Germany expressed their disappointment when the US tore it up.
Maybe any diplomatic efforts should be left to Britain?
Maybe Flat-Beer Kier can convince Iran to house all the illegals while we organise processing their applications to come and work ponce & live in the UK.
Two birds, one stoning.
Re: Iran v Israel
Posted: 24 Jun 2025, 12:37
by WHU(Exeter)
There was already a deal in place, whereas Iran was abiding by levels set by the US, Britain, Germany and others. Those levels were being verified by the IAEA and at the time the levels were being kept in check (according to the IAEA).
As evil as the Iranian regime might be, it was not them who reneged on that deal and Britain and Germany expressed their disappointment when the US tore it up.
Maybe any diplomatic efforts should be left to Britain?
Re: Iran v Israel
Posted: 24 Jun 2025, 10:11
by Massive Attack
Israel now claim Iran has violated ceasefire agreement but Iran are saying, nah man you're chatting shit innit... And so it goes on.
Trump did his bit flawlessly trying to make amends and destroy a lot of their nuclear capabilites, so it's out of his hands if a ceasefire has been broken and it causes them to go on.
In a way, if it has been broken, a part of me thinks it might just be for the best for it to escalate so they can take this Iran cսnt and his cronies out once and for all.
This is the Middle East, what did anyone honestly expect.