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The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 13:20
by Any Old Iron
I think they’re being a tad optimistic. What say you?
The mid-table battle...Distribution of simulated
9 - Bournemouth
10 - Manchester United
11 - Brighton & Hove Albion
12 - Brentford
13 - Crystal Palace
14 - Nottingham Forest
15 - West Ham United
Prediction
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 14 Aug 2025, 13:50
by Keep dreaming
XKhammer wrote: ↑14 Aug 2025, 00:35
Keep dreaming" wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025, 21:47
15th sounds pretty accurate as things stands.
So have you changed your mind on us finishing bottom of table as you predicted not too long ago?
Yes, slightly.
But 15th is closer to bottom than top though...
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 14 Aug 2025, 12:22
by El Scorchio
stubbo wrote: ↑14 Aug 2025, 11:37
He's hardly going to say on record to the BBC, "The squad is full of slow cunts, the midfield is currently a disaster, and we're fucked if it stays like this."
You'd like to think he's singing a different song behind closed doors to the board (who I've seen it suggested all want out as of now).
Completely agree. He's just saying what he has to say. By not doing so he wrecks the morale of the team and it's never a good idea to essentially badmouth your employer so publicly.
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 14 Aug 2025, 11:37
by stubbo
He's hardly going to say on record to the BBC, "The squad is full of slow cunts, the midfield is currently a disaster, and we're fucked if it stays like this."
You'd like to think he's singing a different song behind closed doors to the board (who I've seen it suggested all want out as of now).
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 14 Aug 2025, 09:46
by El Scorchio
BBC have us 13th. No real explanation given for it and it doesn’t look like they’ve actually done any reasoned research. No mention of our midfield issues or the lack of addressing it. Just that the signings should help. Lazy.
They have a few interesting predictions. Palace improving and Bournemouth tumbling. Leeds to stay up and Wolves to drop with the other new sides.
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 14 Aug 2025, 00:35
by XKhammer
Keep dreaming" wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025, 21:47
15th sounds pretty accurate as things stands.
So have you changed your mind on us finishing bottom of table as you predicted not too long ago?
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 13 Aug 2025, 22:25
by ragingbull
About right anything above that is a bonus.
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 13 Aug 2025, 21:47
by Keep dreaming
15th sounds pretty accurate as things stands.
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 13 Aug 2025, 20:25
by eusebiovic
Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025, 01:54
honky cat" wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 22:13
I think 15th is about right - but we are winning the FA cup this season so no one will give a shit come next May
Mone (cash flow) is too tight for us to be able to afford to go on cup runs.
If Sully is worried about stumping up for the luxury coach travel he can always charter a few Dial-a-Rides or book the players in at a quid a pop on the Megabus to ferry the squad to where they need to go.
It might even contribute to improved team bonding and their morale in general...
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 13 Aug 2025, 20:19
by eusebiovic
Texas Iron" wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025, 06:30
Depends on how we finish our transfers…
Defence is error prone…
midfield slow…lacks creativity…
Attack needs more goals… Need 50+ per season for top 10 finish…
If we sort the mobility in that midfield then all of a sudden the defence will start to look a lot better given their limitations in certain traits.
We still need a young, mobile striker who is a nuisance to the opposition likewise with the centre midfield where 2 are required unless Potts or someone else steps up. He looks the most likely at the moment.
I can't see much better than 15th...sounds about right to me.
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 13 Aug 2025, 18:45
by Mex Martillo
Potter says he can sort us out with what he has, don't need to look outside for help.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/arti ... ye8j93pkzo
Obviously predictions should be upgraded to a Europe spot.
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 13 Aug 2025, 11:53
by nychammer
as others have said I think a couple of those high fliers of last season might tank a bit in terms of league form when they meet the rigors of European competition - just like we did really.
I don't see anything that makes me think we'll be either in trouble or be top half. Dont think we've set the world on fire with our signings (so far) and still don't think we've addressed that lack of quality in midfield sufficiently. 15th is a reasonable stab.
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 13 Aug 2025, 11:47
by El Scorchio
Swiss. wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025, 11:06
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 19:02
If Palace lose Eze and Guehi they could be in some trouble. Likewise if Liverpool add Isak and Guehi it’s very hard to see anyone aside from Man City if they have a renaissance getting anywhere near them.
Also Palace will have to play in Europe on Thursdays. They won't be used to that.
Yup very true. Forest as well might be stretched. Talk of Wharton and Real Madrid this morning too. If HE goes then surely Mateta considers his future and that's their team almost completely gutted of the talent that got them really punching for a couple of seasons.
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 13 Aug 2025, 11:06
by Swiss.
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 19:02
If Palace lose Eze and Guehi they could be in some trouble. Likewise if Liverpool add Isak and Guehi it’s very hard to see anyone aside from Man City if they have a renaissance getting anywhere near them.
Also Palace will have to play in Europe on Thursdays. They won't be used to that.
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 13 Aug 2025, 10:28
by Fauxstralian
Not unreasonable with our current midfield
2 quality players takes us to about 10th I reckon
Troy Deeney (the new BBC Garth Crooks) has us 16th
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 13 Aug 2025, 06:31
by only1billybonds
Obviously impossible to predict before a ball is kicked but realistically we should be looking at 12th being the absolute low bar. But as has said, should we finish 17th,Sullivan will probably arrange street party's.
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 13 Aug 2025, 06:30
by Texas Iron
Depends on how we finish our transfers…
Defence is error prone…
midfield slow…lacks creativity…
Attack needs more goals… Need 50+ per season for top 10 finish…
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 13 Aug 2025, 01:54
by Mike Oxsaw
honky cat" wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025, 22:13
I think 15th is about right - but we are winning the FA cup this season so no one will give a shit come next May
Mone (cash flow) is too tight for us to be able to afford to go on cup runs.
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 22:13
by honky cat
I think 15th is about right - but we are winning the FA cup this season so no one will give a shit come next May

Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 21:49
by kinglewy
Same slow midfield, still conceding from a straight ball over the top, Bottom 3 unless our billionaires spend some cash.
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 19:02
by El Scorchio
If Palace lose Eze and Guehi they could be in some trouble. Likewise if Liverpool add Isak and Guehi it’s very hard to see anyone aside from Man City if they have a renaissance getting anywhere near them.
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 18:52
by Mex Martillo
I think it'll be an unpredictable season. I predict neither Liverpool or MCity win. West Ham could finish anywhere, all depends on Potter getting his shit together.
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 17:18
by Barty888
My prediction...
1. Chelsea
2. Man City
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Man Utd
6. Newcastle
7. Crystal Palace
8. West Ham
9. Tottenham
10. Aston Villa
11. Brighton
12. Brentford
13. Nott Forest
14. Wolves
15. Sunderland
16. Bournemouth
17. Everton
18. Leeds
19. Fulham
20. Burnley
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 16:02
by ,
The thing is, and it happens each season, is that predictions are made before the clubs have finished settling their squads for the ongoing campaign.
It might be easier placing the top six because apart from the Isak issue clubs look to have finished their business. As for other finishing place predictions whither Bournemouth who seem to have sold off the majority of their defence?
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 15:36
by El Scorchio
This might be the first year there's actually been some realism with Man U. Ridiculous how every season they've been pushed as POTENTIAL top 3 or 4 on nothing other than their name and what happened ten years ago. I'm pretty sure a couple of years ago they were tipped to be in a big title race with Man City.
It's as bad as hearing the Dallas Cowboys are definitely going to win the Super bowl every August.
Re: The Telegraph predict us finishing 15th
Posted: 12 Aug 2025, 15:10
by Mad Dog
15th?? Sullivan must be heading off to the bathroom with some lube and a box of cleenex. He'll think that's outstanding