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Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 12:54

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 12:52 The season has already got shades of Roeders last season when we had to rely on chucking Ian Pearce up front it was getting that desperate. Player/manager bust-ups and early subs at half time. All the ingredients are there just as soon as the injuries to key Players start to mount up as well.

Don't forget AFCON this year will strip us of half our defence.

Shit, good point. Wan-Bissaka, Diouf, Aguerd will all be off.

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 12:52 The season has already got shades of Roeders last season when we had to rely on chucking Ian Pearce up front it was getting that desperate. Player/manager bust-ups and early subs at half time. All the ingredients are there just as soon as the injuries to key Players start to mount up as well.

stubbo-admin wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 11:20

kinglewy wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 11:03 Bowen is only a threat when playing wide and running at defenders and cutting in. Why these managers play him as a striker which takes away so much goal threat is madness. He can’t play with his back to goal his touch is not good enough. We should try to move Tobido on he is a complete over priced duff.

 

Totally agree.  For me at this juncture, we have a few key players, and the team and setup almost picks themselves as the goal has to be to maximise the performance of those players:

1. Bowen...best and most effective position: Right wing
2. Paqueta...at his best when given free reign to go get the ball and make play.  Don't let him get it in dangerous areas to much as he misplaces passes. Good at through balls.  Good physically for a player of his type in the air.
3. Diouf...suspect defensively. Sticks a great first time or second touch cross in...doesn't need to get to the byline.
4. Wan Bissaka...good in the tackle, good at ball carrying from deep, good at moving infield in tight space. Can't cross.
5. Mavropanos...best CB in the air. Prone to a fuck up.
6. Soucek...good at late runs into the box to meet crosses.  Good last line blocker.  Can't run or tackle effectively.
7. Fullkrug.  Not great at hold up play, but ok, and good pedigree in the box when given service.

Once you look at that, we clearly have  RW, ACM, LW, RB, CB, and no. 8, and box striker.  We have a team that is going to be good at attaking crosses.  We have one wide player that excels at sticking the ball in the box, and another that is a fantastic wide player for both assists to players in the box and scoring goals himself.

The only formation Potter should be contemplating is 4-2-3-1.

We need someone who is aggressive and can run around Soucek in the pivot to hide his limitations.  We don't need overlapping fullbacks, but those that are defensively secure.  we need to attack down either flank much more than through the middle.  And we need our wingers to receive the ball wide, and not 'in field'.  And we need to put good balls into the danger zone.

So our key positions are:

GK - 
RB - Wan Bissaka
RCB - Mavropanos
LCB - 
LB -
RDM - Soucek
LDM - 
RW - Bowen
ACM - Paqueta
LW - Diouf
CF - Fullkrug

Those are the players that can actually impact the game for us in a positive way....contribute to us scoring goals.

The 'open' slots is about supporting the rest of that cast to be as effective as they can.

- Mavro is strong but prone to rickets...needs someone quick next to him to try and recover when he makes a fuck up.
- Diouf needs someone dependable behind him who can feed him the ball effectively.  No real need for overlap.
- Soucek needs players around him in open play...possible a full back that inverts to make an extra man and a midfielder with running and aggression.
- And we need a competent goalkeeper.
- Paqueta's job need to be to set the wingers away in space, and then to get in the box with Fullkrug and Soucek.  Those three in the box to attack crosses will be dangerous against anyone.

We're not going to win the league with that team, but it lends itself to a clear method of play, and clear tactical approach to scoring goals.

Really don't see why it's so hard.  Potter is clearly a self righteous, moronic, and pretty unintelligent cսnt if he can't sift through the detritous of his own theories, and work out he has some effective players at his disposal that he just needs to maximise.

honky cat" wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 11:36

stubbo-admin wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 11:20

So our key positions are:

GK - 
RB - Wan Bissaka
RCB - Mavropanos
LCB - 
LB -
RDM - Soucek
LDM - 
RW - Bowen
ACM - Paqueta
LW - Diouf
CF - Fullkrug




 

This is exactly it. You get a pen and paper, write this down. Identify your strongest players in their strongest positions, see what's left and send scouts off around the world to find those players. SO WHY FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS HAS NO ONE BEEN ABLE TO FUCKING DO IT. 

Sir Alf" wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 11:36 Rumour that Sangare is also now on his way for a medical? 

if true ( im skeptical because this lad is good albeit injury prone I think which may be why Forest lettinh him go or maybe its FFP and they need to sell?) .  But even if he does rock up with the lad from Monaco, as I opined earlier we need another centre mid because these 2 are defensive midfielders primarily.  Fernandes from Southampton or the Jerry from Leipzig sound like the attacking ones?  We need one but if we do actually get all 3 Im guessing its because Sully has Paqueta lined up to go? He’s always wanted the cash for Paqueta since the City £85 million offer. An ambitious owner keeps Paqueta. Sullivan always setting the bar at retaining Prem Lge status only. If this happens its proof beyond doubt of Sullivans ambition. 

stubbo-admin wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 11:20

So our key positions are:

GK - 
RB - Wan Bissaka
RCB - Mavropanos
LCB - 
LB -
RDM - Soucek
LDM - 
RW - Bowen
ACM - Paqueta
LW - Diouf
CF - Fullkrug


 

kinglewy wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 11:03 Bowen is only a threat when playing wide and running at defenders and cutting in. Why these managers play him as a striker which takes away so much goal threat is madness. He can’t play with his back to goal his touch is not good enough. We should try to move Tobido on he is a complete over priced duff.

Tomshardware wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 07:01

Sir Alf" wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025, 23:33 Although the defence get most of the blame and yes they should do better on the last goal but its about stopping their midfield dominance and the crosses getting in so easily. The “Snail Collective” this week was Guido, JWP and Soucek. They have to work double hard chasing the ball as theirlack of pace puts them at a disadvantage. Guess what ? After 60 kins they were done as a 3. Changes were requured and the timing if Irvine coming on was right but it was obvious we needed the whole midgield being freshened up and especially after their 4 subs came on. We scored a second and that was the trigger for Potter to go conservative, defence first and it cost us the game. He doesnt have many options in the squad but he does have some.  Potts, Orford, Irvine would have added some energy. No certainties and hindsight etc but you could see we had no energy left in the middle of the park and had to try stop them controlling the game. 

Everyone but Potter could see this.  He just froze and crossed his fingers we could hold on.   

greenie1 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 10:54 Who was the dickhead giving Jarrod stick? He needs a good kicking.

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 08:25

Keep dreaming" wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 06:44

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025, 22:30

 

Sums up what you know about this club, you fucking idiot.

collyrob is right, there's enough people at the club to cսnt off, Bowen is the absolute last of them. I wouldn't expect you to know that, you're about as West Ham as Ferret.

What's that got to do with anything you sad name-calling cuntflap.
And what a surprise seeing these two idiots clinging on to eachother.
Hard core fans aren't you, "I said so" and "I'll back the manager "!

So someone says back the manager 6 months ago and they are not allowed to change their mind is that your reasoning you thick fucking moron? Unlike you I believe in giving managers a chance, he has had his.

Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 08:58

Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025, 19:02 Decent side.


 

Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025, 19:02 Decent side.

 

munkyfunk wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 06:11 Guarantee wolves draw millwall next just to stick the boot in.
We are in a state at the moment.

Keep dreaming" wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 06:44

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025, 22:30

Keep dreaming" wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025, 22:23

He is the club captain and is not immune to fans reaction after a collective capitulation like this.

 

Sums up what you know about this club, you fucking idiot.

collyrob is right, there's enough people at the club to cսnt off, Bowen is the absolute last of them. I wouldn't expect you to know that, you're about as West Ham as Ferret.

What's that got to do with anything you sad name-calling cuntflap.
And what a surprise seeing these two idiots clinging on to eachother.
Hard core fans aren't you, "I said so" and "I'll back the manager "!

Keep dreaming" wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 06:44

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025, 22:30

Keep dreaming" wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025, 22:23

He is the club captain and is not immune to fans reaction after a collective capitulation like this.

 

Sums up what you know about this club, you fucking idiot.

collyrob is right, there's enough people at the club to cսnt off, Bowen is the absolute last of them. I wouldn't expect you to know that, you're about as West Ham as Ferret.

What's that got to do with anything you sad name-calling cuntflap.
And what a surprise seeing these two idiots clinging on to eachother.
Hard core fans aren't you, "I said so" and "I'll back the manager "!

Sir Alf" wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025, 23:33 Although the defence get most of the blame and yes they should do better on the last goal but its about stopping their midfield dominance and the crosses getting in so easily. The “Snail Collective” this week was Guido, JWP and Soucek. They have to work double hard chasing the ball as theirlack of pace puts them at a disadvantage. Guess what ? After 60 kins they were done as a 3. Changes were requured and the timing if Irvine coming on was right but it was obvious we needed the whole midgield being freshened up and especially after their 4 subs came on. We scored a second and that was the trigger for Potter to go conservative, defence first and it cost us the game. He doesnt have many options in the squad but he does have some.  Potts, Orford, Irvine would have added some energy. No certainties and hindsight etc but you could see we had no energy left in the middle of the park and had to try stop them controlling the game.