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Saw him yesterday, we've bought a plodding donkey. 

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑07 Oct 2025, 18:56 My hunch is Potts will be the better out of the two lads longer term. 

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑07 Oct 2025, 14:19

9898 wrote: ↑07 Oct 2025, 14:14

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑07 Oct 2025, 06:18

Bore off you no nothing twat.

Where do you drink, mate? 

Wherever you like fella 

My hunch is Potts will be the better out of the two lads longer term. 

Totally agree that he isn’t up to speed yet.

but for the price and the potential we hope 

needs game time and experience 
hope he’ll develop into a seven player 
we get a good number of games and good performance eventually and sell him on in a few seasons for a profit.

Also just like our home grown yoofs need game time, they need the challenge to develop 


I’d be happy if it pans out that way
 

I like what I've seen, works hard, puts himself about, looks to move the game forward and makes a good forward pass.

9898 wrote: ↑07 Oct 2025, 14:14

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑07 Oct 2025, 06:18

9898 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025, 21:26 This bloke cannot start any more games, so slow and way off the standard. Potts is at least more mobile. 

Bore off you no nothing twat.

Where do you drink, mate? 

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑07 Oct 2025, 06:18

9898 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025, 21:26 This bloke cannot start any more games, so slow and way off the standard. Potts is at least more mobile. 

Bore off you no nothing twat.

The next 4-5 games really are the acid test for him and where we'll know what we've got. Not many people look good against Arsenal, and he was on a hiding to nothing against spurs and palace. He was ok against Everton in a game where you'd actually have some proper expectation for him.

He'll be 'settled' at the club for Brentford, Nuno and the coaches will have been able to impart what he wants from him and the midfield as a unit in a game where we aren't just backs to the wall and he should be accustomed to the league and style of play.

I know people love to write players off almost instantly, but I'm not properly going to start judging him (that includes excessive praise OR writing him off) until after the Burnley game. That's a pretty good sample size and we should know pretty much what we have in him.
 

What I like about him is when paqueta finally decides to fuck off, we can sell our car to songo magassa instead.

Still too early to judge the fella, as it is with Fernandes.

They came in under a completely shit manager who had no idea what he was doing, and have played two tough away games under the new coach. Thought he grew into the Everton game. But, like many others, he didn't lay a glove on Arsenal.

I was a little worried about paying £20m for a Monaco stiff. But let's at least give him some time, and a few games where we should/could be more competitive.

Gotta' be honest, I can't tell if he's "slow" as some claim. What's clear is that the pace and 90-minute intensity of the game in England has taken him by surprise, as it does with many youngsters joining from Ligue 1 etc. But we've not had much time to see if he's physically quick, bang average or slow in a congested midfield.

He might look a bit "quicker" when he's used to the pace of the general game in the Premier League, because hopefully he'll make faster, better decisions. Everybody chased shadows against Arsenal - we were just really uncompetitive. Arsenal strolled around like it was a training session - as Sunderland, Chelsea and Spurs did, too.

He looked decent for 30-40 mins in the Everton game but struggled to get on or near the ball against Arsenal. But so did Fernandes and Paqueta and for me it was, yet again, the midfield where we just struggled to compete collectively. So, while Im a bit disappointed that he’s not a bit quicker, he is very young, has good physicality and is not slow per se and its far too early to write him off.  Paqueta was more of a problem against Arsenal for me when we were in possession.  

All that said, on January I would get Bissouma in on loan. He allegedly wants to stay in London, has something to prove, is still quick and with Magassa, Potts, Fernandes and Paqueta will give us a competitive midfield squad. 

Still early days but he has looked mostly shit though. Let's see what he's like after a month playing.

9898 wrote: ↑06 Oct 2025, 21:26 This bloke cannot start any more games, so slow and way off the standard. Potts is at least more mobile. 

fraser wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025, 15:01

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025, 14:56 No it wasn't a yellow. And ex Everton player Hinchcliffe came across as a right tit when talking about it. Clearly just assumed the ref was right 'Oh that's stupid. He's nowhere near the ball. It's impossible to get to the ball like that against Grealish. He's far too good with his body.'
Replay shows Magassa got a touch on the ball. 'Well he's got the briefest of touches but it's too forceful.'

What a moron.

Ex Everton in the studio, ex Everton in the commentary box. Sky need to look at this stuff. It couldn't have been more of an Everton wank fest the way they set up. To be fair to big Dunc he wasn't too much of a homer.

Funnily enough I had a peak at the Everton site and they were moaning about Moyes not buying players with pace, no decent striker and waiting too long to make subs every game.. Sounds familiar.. 

But also saying that Hinchcliffe hates them and they couldn't understand why...

They also said 9898 is a know nothing cսnt.. 

This bloke cannot start any more games, so slow and way off the standard. Potts is at least more mobile. 

fraser wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025, 15:01

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025, 14:56 No it wasn't a yellow. And ex Everton player Hinchcliffe came across as a right tit when talking about it. Clearly just assumed the ref was right 'Oh that's stupid. He's nowhere near the ball. It's impossible to get to the ball like that against Grealish. He's far too good with his body.'
Replay shows Magassa got a touch on the ball. 'Well he's got the briefest of touches but it's too forceful.'

What a moron.

Ex Everton in the studio, ex Everton in the commentary box. Sky need to look at this stuff. It couldn't have been more of an Everton wank fest the way they set up. To be fair to big Dunc he wasn't too much of a homer.

Funnily enough I had a peak at the Everton site and they were moaning about Moyes not buying players with pace, no decent striker and waiting too long to make subs every game.. Sounds familiar.. 

But also saying that Hinchcliffe hates them and they couldn't understand why...

They also said 9898 is a know nothing cսnt.. 

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025, 14:56 No it wasn't a yellow. And ex Everton player Hinchcliffe came across as a right tit when talking about it. Clearly just assumed the ref was right 'Oh that's stupid. He's nowhere near the ball. It's impossible to get to the ball like that against Grealish. He's far too good with his body.'
Replay shows Magassa got a touch on the ball. 'Well he's got the briefest of touches but it's too forceful.'

What a moron.

Ex Everton in the studio, ex Everton in the commentary box. Sky need to look at this stuff. It couldn't have been more of an Everton wank fest the way they set up. To be fair to big Dunc he wasn't too much of a homer.

No it wasn't a yellow. And ex Everton player Hinchcliffe came across as a right tit when talking about it. Clearly just assumed the ref was right 'Oh that's stupid. He's nowhere near the ball. It's impossible to get to the ball like that against Grealish. He's far too good with his body.'
Replay shows Magassa got a touch on the ball. 'Well he's got the briefest of touches but it's too forceful.'

What a moron.

Ex Everton in the studio, ex Everton in the commentary box. Sky need to look at this stuff. It couldn't have been more of an Everton wank fest the way they set up. To be fair to big Dunc he wasn't too much of a homer.

Even his yellow probably wasn’t. Clearly got the ball. Refs over here just think it’s impossible to get the ball from that angle so they book you without thinking. 

he just needs to adjust to some of the nuances of the game. 
it’s hard to compare with Potts who has been around our club forever, played all pre seasons etc 

People moan that we don’t do what Brighton and Brentford do and get the caicedo at 5m etc… well you can’t do it if you don’t play these youngsters and build them into 100m players! And that means they will make mistakes. The issue is we’ve never had a good enough team out of the relegation spots to spend time bedding in youth players. We want finished articles but don’t want to pay for them. 

so we end up with overpriced journeymen, mentalists who can’t get their head straight (ravel Morrison, lingard etc) or over the hill players that are always in A+E. 

And when we do have a good team that could bed in youth players (Moyes year 1+2) he gets so drunk on success he flogs them to death (not getting a backup for Antonio, rejecting Atelicos Alvarez as not ready etc) and we’re back where we started. 

let’s break the cycle shall we? Believe in our youth and all that ..



 

9898 wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025, 14:09

stubbo-admin wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025, 12:05

9898 wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025, 10:11 Oh, this fellas not for me.
People highlighting a period of play of  20 minutes before and after half time are missing out on the fact that was when Everton just set back and we had a lot of possession with no challenges, when it was a proper Premier League game in the first 25 minutes he was absolutely horrendous, expect to see him get ran past and demolished during the season and will never be a regular. 

Big fan of writing off a 21 year old kid who's not even been a regular in the French league and is one match into a debut (beyond a couple of sub appearances under a fraud).

Lad's a year younger than Potts, has Champions League experience, some of the most promising STATS in Europe in his position, was under a new manager with a team that is still trying to suss itself out.

Maybe he'll not go on to be the next Yaya Toure or Patrick Viera...but the above assessment based on the evidence until now, is fundamentally premature.  I guess it has a 50% chance of being right so not the worst punt in existence if looking to line up an 'I told you all so'.

More likely is he goes on to be a solid if unspectacular PL performer for us, before moving back abroad at end of contract.

I'm pretty certain that if we were playing Spurs and he was playing for them giving the same first 30 minute she gave us last night, you wouldn't be making excuses and would be laughing at the way he passed the ball out of play, got outpaced and was generally appalling until Moyes doing what Moyes does,  let us have the ball unchallenged for a good 30 minutes and retreats to his 18 yyard box. 

stubbo-admin wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025, 12:05

9898 wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025, 10:11 Oh, this fellas not for me.
People highlighting a period of play of  20 minutes before and after half time are missing out on the fact that was when Everton just set back and we had a lot of possession with no challenges, when it was a proper Premier League game in the first 25 minutes he was absolutely horrendous, expect to see him get ran past and demolished during the season and will never be a regular. 

Big fan of writing off a 21 year old kid who's not even been a regular in the French league and is one match into a debut (beyond a couple of sub appearances under a fraud).

Lad's a year younger than Potts, has Champions League experience, some of the most promising STATS in Europe in his position, was under a new manager with a team that is still trying to suss itself out.

Maybe he'll not go on to be the next Yaya Toure or Patrick Viera...but the above assessment based on the evidence until now, is fundamentally premature.  I guess it has a 50% chance of being right so not the worst punt in existence if looking to line up an 'I told you all so'.

More likely is he goes on to be a solid if unspectacular PL performer for us, before moving back abroad at end of contract.

9898 wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025, 13:05 Saw him yesterday, we've bought a plodding donkey. 

9898 wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025, 10:11 Oh, this fellas not for me.
People highlighting a period of play of  20 minutes before and after half time are missing out on the fact that was when Everton just set back and we had a lot of possession with no challenges, when it was a proper Premier League game in the first 25 minutes he was absolutely horrendous, expect to see him get ran past and demolished during the season and will never be a regular. 

9898 wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025, 10:11 Oh, this fellas not for me.
People highlighting a period of play of  20 minutes before and after half time are missing out on the fact that was when Everton just set back and we had a lot of possession with no challenges, when it was a proper Premier League game in the first 25 minutes he was absolutely horrendous, expect to see him get ran past and demolished during the season and will never be a regular. 

9898 wrote: ↑30 Sep 2025, 10:11 Oh, this fellas not for me.
People highlighting a period of play of  20 minutes before and after half time are missing out on the fact that was when Everton just set back and we had a lot of possession with no challenges, when it was a proper Premier League game in the first 25 minutes he was absolutely horrendous, expect to see him get ran past and demolished during the season and will never be a regular.