The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Mike Oxsaw]

Popular & succesful Brexit? Ha ha ha
Economy booming and controlled borders

Well, if one thing is obvious, Brexit has brought into uncomfortable photogenic public view the illegal immigration problem.

A good start to managing such a problem is accepting it exists.

Whilst we were part of the EU, these people didn't need to resort to using boats as they simply travelled over in unchecked vehicles, so the authorities could "plausibly" deny it actually was a real, daily occurrence.

Any issues in the UK economy are brought about by having an anti-business chancellor and a state that detests (the tax generating) success of the wrong sort of people.

[Mike Oxsaw]

Are you saying he doesn’t hold those views & never did?
Or are you perfectly happy to have a potential PM with those views?

Have said before if these allegations were about Starmer you’d be outraged


 

 

 

He may well HAVE (past tense) held those views in his school days but has since learned and moved on, dropping them.

I held many views in my school years and have also modified or dropped them as I started learning about the world after I left school.

He's certainly not showing any such opinions as leader of a rampant emerging political force/party.

Those bringing up the past in this way are the ones who need to move on, starting with apologising, unreservedly,  for anything they did/said a similar length of time ago, whether or not their victim is now in the media spotlight.

We don't (yet) have an official Thought Police Squad here in the UK (much as some would love it because "they've got nothing to hide".).

[Fauxstralian]

What’s happening?
A potential PM is being scrutinised as to his beliefs & character as would always be the case
Seems this gibbering chinless wonder is a Nazi

Thats as maybe but it’s also revealing the character of people who aren’t remotely bothered by the prospect of a Nazi sympathiser in No.10

[Fauxstralian]

Popular & succesful Brexit? Ha ha ha
Economy booming and controlled borders

[twoleftfeet]

Are you saying he doesn’t hold those views & never did?
Or are you perfectly happy to have a potential PM with those views?

Have said before if these allegations were about Starmer you’d be outraged

 

I’d be happy for Starmer to have an opinion on anything. 

[twoleftfeet]

It would be quite simple for Mr Farage to come out and say
I do not and have never endorsed the policies and behaviour of Mr Adolf Hitler and the Nazis and I wholeheartedly condemn them
Simple but he seems unwilling  or  unable to do that

Was reading that 28 former pupils have verified accounts of his behaviour
Including one today who said that as a 9yo Nigerian refugee at Dulwich College the 17yo Farage used to greet him at the school gates telling him to go home to Africa & point the way 
But they are ALL lying & the bbc showed Alf Garnett so it’s all ok
Lots of people seem unconcerned that a party leader may be a Nazi

Bit like all those gammon telling us the country is being over run and tell us they are off to Dubai to live under Sharia Law
That plumbing bloke who looks like a Poundland Rod Stewart is the latest

Left wing media stitch up. The establishment don’t want Farage so have scraped the barrel finding people from 50 years ago to say he is a racist and anti semite. I’m no Farage fan but anyone with half a brain can see what’s happening here.

[Fauxstralian]

Are you saying he doesn’t hold those views & never did?
Or are you perfectly happy to have a potential PM with those views?

Have said before if these allegations were about Starmer you’d be outraged
 

[Mike Oxsaw]

It would be quite simple for Mr Farage to come out and say
I do not and have never endorsed the policies and behaviour of Mr Adolf Hitler and the Nazis and I wholeheartedly condemn them
Simple but he seems unwilling  or  unable to do that

Was reading that 28 former pupils have verified accounts of his behaviour
Including one today who said that as a 9yo Nigerian refugee at Dulwich College the 17yo Farage used to greet him at the school gates telling him to go home to Africa & point the way 
But they are ALL lying & the bbc showed Alf Garnett so it’s all ok
Lots of people seem unconcerned that a party leader may be a Nazi

Bit like all those gammon telling us the country is being over run and tell us they are off to Dubai to live under Sharia Law
That plumbing bloke who looks like a Poundland Rod Stewart is the latest
 

You, and, seemingly, many like you, absolutely need (NEED) Farage to be a Nazi: cannot forgive him for the very popular and successful Brexit, cannot forgive him for successfully challenging traditional 2-party politics.

[Fauxstralian]

It would be quite simple for Mr Farage to come out and say
I do not and have never endorsed the policies and behaviour of Mr Adolf Hitler and the Nazis and I wholeheartedly condemn them
Simple but he seems unwilling  or  unable to do that

Was reading that 28 former pupils have verified accounts of his behaviour
Including one today who said that as a 9yo Nigerian refugee at Dulwich College the 17yo Farage used to greet him at the school gates telling him to go home to Africa & point the way 
But they are ALL lying & the bbc showed Alf Garnett so it’s all ok
Lots of people seem unconcerned that a party leader may be a Nazi

Bit like all those gammon telling us the country is being over run and tell us they are off to Dubai to live under Sharia Law
That plumbing bloke who looks like a Poundland Rod Stewart is the latest

[Mike Oxsaw]

I see that the Guardian (fully supported by the BBC) are now doing a full-on Nazi/Goebbels on Farage.

The spite of the left when they can't get their own way (and then impose it on everybody else) knows no bounds.

[Mike Oxsaw]

Does that include the time you spent in the detector vans grassing up people back at then?
Wouldn't mention the BBC if l was you makes you look a hypocrite 

If that is what you need, so be it. The law on possessing a TV licence to legally watch TV was not of my doing; learning about all aspects of it's enforcement was.

Sounds here like you are very much on the side of TV licence dodgers - criminals. Does being so make you feel edgy and a bit of a geezer?

Oh. and being labelled a hypocrite by you, of all people, is very deep into pot & kettle territory.

Grass

You claiming the role of pot or kettle here? Not that I care, just useful for me to know when choosing my bait.

[XKhammer]

The BBC (lackey) clearly hoped that Farage would be intimidated and he was quite the opposite.

And everything he said about the BBC output at the time he was alleged to have made his oh-so-offensive remarks is true - I know, I grew up (allegedly) then.

Classroom/playground humour back then was encouraged by BBC mainstream programming. Not sure whether it was under the Inform, Educate or Entertain charter remit clause, but it was there, in virtually every living room/lounge of every house in the UK, every day.

Does that include the time you spent in the detector vans grassing up people back at then?
Wouldn't mention the BBC if l was you makes you look a hypocrite 

If that is what you need, so be it. The law on possessing a TV licence to legally watch TV was not of my doing; learning about all aspects of it's enforcement was.

Sounds here like you are very much on the side of TV licence dodgers - criminals. Does being so make you feel edgy and a bit of a geezer?

Oh. and being labelled a hypocrite by you, of all people, is very deep into pot & kettle territory.

Grass

[Nutsin]

[Mike Oxsaw]

Well said Nigel!

Here here!

The BBC (lackey) clearly hoped that Farage would be intimidated and he was quite the opposite.

And everything he said about the BBC output at the time he was alleged to have made his oh-so-offensive remarks is true - I know, I grew up (allegedly) then.

Classroom/playground humour back then was encouraged by BBC mainstream programming. Not sure whether it was under the Inform, Educate or Entertain charter remit clause, but it was there, in virtually every living room/lounge of every house in the UK, every day.

Does that include the time you spent in the detector vans grassing up people back at then?
Wouldn't mention the BBC if l was you makes you look a hypocrite 

If that is what you need, so be it. The law on possessing a TV licence to legally watch TV was not of my doing; learning about all aspects of it's enforcement was.

Sounds here like you are very much on the side of TV licence dodgers - criminals. Does being so make you feel edgy and a bit of a geezer?

Oh. and being labelled a hypocrite by you, of all people, is very deep into pot & kettle territory.

[Nutsin]

[Nutsin]

[Nutsin]

[XKhammer]

Well said Nigel!

Here here!

The BBC (lackey) clearly hoped that Farage would be intimidated and he was quite the opposite.

And everything he said about the BBC output at the time he was alleged to have made his oh-so-offensive remarks is true - I know, I grew up (allegedly) then.

Classroom/playground humour back then was encouraged by BBC mainstream programming. Not sure whether it was under the Inform, Educate or Entertain charter remit clause, but it was there, in virtually every living room/lounge of every house in the UK, every day.

Does that include the time you spent in the detector vans grassing up people back at then?
Wouldn't mention the BBC if l was you makes you look a hypocrite 

[Massive Attack]

'Loaded' audience?
On Question time ?
On the BBC ?

This can't be true, this is the totally IMPARTIAL BBC we're talking about. An institution of such moral integrity and sense of fairness would never stoop to this kind of thing.

What cracks me up is not only was the audience loaded up, but so was the panel, as per which I find remarkable considering the serious heat on them for clear Politcial bias involving Trump. I'm almost impressed by their arrogance and superiority to just carry on doing it in plain sight after everything. Almost psychopathic. 

[,]

I think that delving back into someone’s past especially when remarking on things said by an individual in their formative years is indicative of some kind of desperation.

In terms of what Farage has admitted to saying and doing back then it shows how someone who was prepared to to engage in anti semitic bullying has been able to transition to adulthood putting that sort of juvenile behaviour behind him.

It’s what we are like as adults that count and we should ultimately be judged by our grown up words and deeds. And in Farage’s case there is plenty to take him to task on so leave his young life out of things.

[Mike Oxsaw]

Well said Nigel!

Here here!

The BBC (lackey) clearly hoped that Farage would be intimidated and he was quite the opposite.

And everything he said about the BBC output at the time he was alleged to have made his oh-so-offensive remarks is true - I know, I grew up (allegedly) then.

Classroom/playground humour back then was encouraged by BBC mainstream programming. Not sure whether it was under the Inform, Educate or Entertain charter remit clause, but it was there, in virtually every living room/lounge of every house in the UK, every day.

[only1billybonds]

'Loaded' audience?
On Question time ?
On the BBC ?

This can't be true, this is the totally IMPARTIAL BBC we're talking about. An institution of such moral integrity and sense of fairness would never stoop to this kind of thing.

[BRANDED]

In previous times there would have been a huge uproar about BBC QT but now people just laugh at it.

[OK_Guy]

just heard that Question-Time on the BBC last night, allowed 'illegal migrants to have their say on QT's Immigration-Special. Apparently it was revealed that one of the migrants had an  ear-piece in when answering questions. It was also muted that it was a rigged audience with hardly any dissenting voices but lots of rapturous applause for Zack Polanski who wants 'open' boarders... QT was held in Dover, not the most pro-immigration area.

in other news, looks like Lammy has forgot to shut the gate, re-Labour's plans for rejoining the EU via the back door.

what is it with the Establishment in this country?... smoke, mirrors & lies. 

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

I see The Guardian has gone 'cancel Farage at all cost', even the Attorney-General has demanded that he apologises for his supposed racist-comments as a kid... the only reason I can see they want him to apologise, is so that they can label him as a de-facto 'racist'.

Link: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... tisemitism

Link: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... up-twaddle

It's clearly a targetted attempt to argue for his and reform's removal from the ballot. The same way the Germans are trying to prevent the AfD from gaining power.

If Starmer doesn't cancel all future general elections, even if Reform won, they will try and tie Russian influence to it, like in Romania. 

There really is no future in democracy for the far left, they want a global dictatorship.

All about the EU.
corrupt fuckers to the core.
if we had a leader with the minerals like Maggie we'd be just fine , like we always have been throughout our history.