The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[XKhammer]

Exactly. There are some people who were friends with Epstein and socialised with him a lot. They knew exactly what he was but turned a blind eye.

Oi piss off you have your own thread now so do one please 

[goose]

Exactly. There are some people who were friends with Epstein and socialised with him a lot. They knew exactly what he was but turned a blind eye.

[Manuel]

Good shout to let the pair of them have their own thread so they can carry on disagreeing with each other until the end of time.

[goose]

Although a little bit of Fed help never hurt anyone, they lowered interest rates enough when Biden was in office. Trumps getting it done with little or no help. Oh and jobs lost you mentioned are Amazon and Walmart, CO’s that import cheap shit from China, expected really when you are pulling manufacturing away from them and bringing it home. Perhaps we will start to see more local family owned businesses instead of the big corps cornering the market to paid the pockets of Bezos and the like.

America first baby!

Bankruptcy of American companies went up 11% last year. The most in 15 years.

amazon & Walmart aren’t cutting manufacturing jobs, these are office jobs being lost. American workers in the 100s of thousands.

I never said they were cutting manufacturing jobs. What are you talking about. The manufacturing jobs being lost are in China, there’s a new world order for commerce, the days of importing everything into America are over, we will be exporting a lot more now we have more open markets, so there will be growing and adjustment pains felt in some sectors, strength in others. To be expected.

They are US jobs being lost, not Chinese or anywhere else.
100k US jobs in a month.

i will say no more on the subject.

[stubbo-admin]

Mods.

Can we have an American politics thread please, so that Nutsin and Goose can bicker endlessly and the rest of us can talk about the country where we actually live?

Done. Might take me a while to port over all the US posts to it though!

[collyrob]

[Trilby55]

Mods.

Can we have an American politics thread please, so that Nutsin and Goose can bicker endlessly and the rest of us can talk about the country where we actually live?

Good idea .

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Mods.

Can we have an American politics thread please, so that Nutsin and Goose can bicker endlessly and the rest of us can talk about the country where we actually live?

[Nutsin]

[Nutsin]

2 out of 12 is worth mentioning.

Although a little bit of Fed help never hurt anyone, they lowered interest rates enough when Biden was in office. Trumps getting it done with little or no help. Oh and jobs lost you mentioned are Amazon and Walmart, CO’s that import cheap shit from China, expected really when you are pulling manufacturing away from them and bringing it home. Perhaps we will start to see more local family owned businesses instead of the big corps cornering the market to paid the pockets of Bezos and the like.

America first baby!

Bankruptcy of American companies went up 11% last year. The most in 15 years.

amazon & Walmart aren’t cutting manufacturing jobs, these are office jobs being lost. American workers in the 100s of thousands.

I never said they were cutting manufacturing jobs. What are you talking about. The manufacturing jobs being lost are in China, there’s a new world order for commerce, the days of importing everything into America are over, we will be exporting a lot more now we have more open markets, so there will be growing and adjustment pains felt in some sectors, strength in others. To be expected.

[Nutsin]

It’s a second member of the fed raising the alarm about jobs. Two of the twelve saying the same things on the same day.
You sighted government jobs, but as I’ve shown you those are private sector jobs being cut.  The biggest since 2009.

Job numbers, inflation, both stone cold facts.

2 out of 12 is worth mentioning.

 

The numbers are widely reported. Two gave interviews today and both called out the weakening jobs market.

Jobs are worth mentioning above everything else, last year was worse than 2009. The data from January is really poor.

Oh no, the sky’s not falling again is it?

[goose]

It’s a second member of the fed raising the alarm about jobs. Two of the twelve saying the same things on the same day.
You sighted government jobs, but as I’ve shown you those are private sector jobs being cut.  The biggest since 2009.

Job numbers, inflation, both stone cold facts.

2 out of 12 is worth mentioning.

Although a little bit of Fed help never hurt anyone, they lowered interest rates enough when Biden was in office. Trumps getting it done with little or no help. Oh and jobs lost you mentioned are Amazon and Walmart, CO’s that import cheap shit from China, expected really when you are pulling manufacturing away from them and bringing it home. Perhaps we will start to see more local family owned businesses instead of the big corps cornering the market to paid the pockets of Bezos and the like.

America first baby!

Bankruptcy of American companies went up 11% last year. The most in 15 years.

amazon & Walmart aren’t cutting manufacturing jobs, these are office jobs being lost. American workers in the 100s of thousands.

[goose]

Reuters and San Fran Fed eh? Is that where you got Stagflation from?

Didn’t mention wage growth or Cap Ex being through the roof or 5.3% GDP, Jobs for US Citizens on the rise?

Just snippets to meet their usual bullshit narrative. According to these idiots we should have inflation in double digits because of Tarriffs, how did that work out?


Give it up son, you’re stuck on stupid.

It’s a second member of the fed raising the alarm about jobs. Two of the twelve saying the same things on the same day.
You sighted government jobs, but as I’ve shown you those are private sector jobs being cut.  The biggest since 2009.

Job numbers, inflation, both stone cold facts.

2 out of 12 is worth mentioning.

 

 

The numbers are widely reported. Two gave interviews today and both called out the weakening jobs market.

Jobs are worth mentioning above everything else, last year was worse than 2009. The data from January is really poor.

[Nutsin]

Reuters and San Fran Fed eh? Is that where you got Stagflation from?

Didn’t mention wage growth or Cap Ex being through the roof or 5.3% GDP, Jobs for US Citizens on the rise?

Just snippets to meet their usual bullshit narrative. According to these idiots we should have inflation in double digits because of Tarriffs, how did that work out?


Give it up son, you’re stuck on stupid.

It’s a second member of the fed raising the alarm about jobs. Two of the twelve saying the same things on the same day.
You sighted government jobs, but as I’ve shown you those are private sector jobs being cut.  The biggest since 2009.

Job numbers, inflation, both stone cold facts.

2 out of 12 is worth mentioning.

Although a little bit of Fed help never hurt anyone, they lowered interest rates enough when Biden was in office. Trumps getting it done with little or no help. Oh and jobs lost you mentioned are Amazon and Walmart, CO’s that import cheap shit from China, expected really when you are pulling manufacturing away from them and bringing it home. Perhaps we will start to see more local family owned businesses instead of the big corps cornering the market to paid the pockets of Bezos and the like.

America first baby!

[Nutsin]

Feb 6 (Reuters) - San Francisco Federal Reserve President Mary Daly on Friday said she thinks one or two more interest rate cuts may be needed to counteract weakness in the labor market, where workers are "walking a knife's edge" with higher prices eating into their wages and scarce opportunities for new jobs.


Elsewhere- Layoffs surged sharply in January — over 108,000 job cuts announced, the highest for any January since 2009, with major contributions from transportation (UPS), tech (Amazon), healthcare, and other sectors. 

inflation isn’t down
the job market is weak

Stock market growth driven by a handful of companies is not indicative of a thriving economy.

Reuters and San Fran Fed eh? Is that where you got Stagflation from?

Didn’t mention wage growth or Cap Ex being through the roof or 5.3% GDP, Jobs for US Citizens on the rise?

Just snippets to meet their usual bullshit narrative. According to these idiots we should have inflation in double digits because of Tarriffs, how did that work out?


Give it up son, you’re stuck on stupid.

It’s a second member of the fed raising the alarm about jobs. Two of the twelve saying the same things on the same day.
You sighted government jobs, but as I’ve shown you those are private sector jobs being cut.  The biggest since 2009.

Job numbers, inflation, both stone cold facts.

2 out of 12 is worth mentioning.

[goose]

Nonsense inflation numbers are down. Fed has a dual mandate, price stability (Inflation) and Jobs. If Jobs were as bad as you say then we wouldn’t have a stock market as hot as it is and the Fed would act. A lot of Jobs lost were Gov’t jobs which hurt the private sector. Trump could easily re-hire the Gov’t jobs to get the numbers up but that’s Gov’t bloat that we don’t want or need. Private sector Jobs follow growth, 5.3% GDP is growth, jobs come next and Wall st knows it.

Feb 6 (Reuters) - San Francisco Federal Reserve President Mary Daly on Friday said she thinks one or two more interest rate cuts may be needed to counteract weakness in the labor market, where workers are "walking a knife's edge" with higher prices eating into their wages and scarce opportunities for new jobs.


Elsewhere- Layoffs surged sharply in January — over 108,000 job cuts announced, the highest for any January since 2009, with major contributions from transportation (UPS), tech (Amazon), healthcare, and other sectors. 

inflation isn’t down
the job market is weak

Stock market growth driven by a handful of companies is not indicative of a thriving economy.

Reuters and San Fran Fed eh? Is that where you got Stagflation from?

Didn’t mention wage growth or Cap Ex being through the roof or 5.3% GDP, Jobs for US Citizens on the rise?

Just snippets to meet their usual bullshit narrative. According to these idiots we should have inflation in double digits because of Tarriffs, how did that work out?


Give it up son, you’re stuck on stupid.

It’s a second member of the fed raising the alarm about jobs. Two of the twelve saying the same things on the same day.
You sighted government jobs, but as I’ve shown you those are private sector jobs being cut.  The biggest since 2009.

Job numbers, inflation, both stone cold facts.

[Nutsin]

In a word - inflation. Largely self inflicted by tariffs.

The job numbers don’t lie.

So that’s persistent inflation AND a weak jobs market……. That’s not ‘winning’ anything.

Nonsense inflation numbers are down. Fed has a dual mandate, price stability (Inflation) and Jobs. If Jobs were as bad as you say then we wouldn’t have a stock market as hot as it is and the Fed would act. A lot of Jobs lost were Gov’t jobs which hurt the private sector. Trump could easily re-hire the Gov’t jobs to get the numbers up but that’s Gov’t bloat that we don’t want or need. Private sector Jobs follow growth, 5.3% GDP is growth, jobs come next and Wall st knows it.

Feb 6 (Reuters) - San Francisco Federal Reserve President Mary Daly on Friday said she thinks one or two more interest rate cuts may be needed to counteract weakness in the labor market, where workers are "walking a knife's edge" with higher prices eating into their wages and scarce opportunities for new jobs.


Elsewhere- Layoffs surged sharply in January — over 108,000 job cuts announced, the highest for any January since 2009, with major contributions from transportation (UPS), tech (Amazon), healthcare, and other sectors. 

inflation isn’t down
the job market is weak

Stock market growth driven by a handful of companies is not indicative of a thriving economy.

Reuters and San Fran Fed eh? Is that where you got Stagflation from?

Didn’t mention wage growth or Cap Ex being through the roof or 5.3% GDP, Jobs for US Citizens on the rise?

Just snippets to meet their usual bullshit narrative. According to these idiots we should have inflation in double digits because of Tarriffs, how did that work out?


Give it up son, you’re stuck on stupid.

[goose]

Yeh it’s so bad the Fed decided not to lower rates

In a word - inflation. Largely self inflicted by tariffs.

The job numbers don’t lie.

So that’s persistent inflation AND a weak jobs market……. That’s not ‘winning’ anything.

Nonsense inflation numbers are down. Fed has a dual mandate, price stability (Inflation) and Jobs. If Jobs were as bad as you say then we wouldn’t have a stock market as hot as it is and the Fed would act. A lot of Jobs lost were Gov’t jobs which hurt the private sector. Trump could easily re-hire the Gov’t jobs to get the numbers up but that’s Gov’t bloat that we don’t want or need. Private sector Jobs follow growth, 5.3% GDP is growth, jobs come next and Wall st knows it.

Feb 6 (Reuters) - San Francisco Federal Reserve President Mary Daly on Friday said she thinks one or two more interest rate cuts may be needed to counteract weakness in the labor market, where workers are "walking a knife's edge" with higher prices eating into their wages and scarce opportunities for new jobs.


Elsewhere- Layoffs surged sharply in January — over 108,000 job cuts announced, the highest for any January since 2009, with major contributions from transportation (UPS), tech (Amazon), healthcare, and other sectors. 

inflation isn’t down
the job market is weak

Stock market growth driven by a handful of companies is not indicative of a thriving economy.

[Nutsin]

Funny that, when I gave you the forward looking LEI you turned your nose up.
97.9 if you’re interested. It was below 100 for all of 2025.

The very latest job data is also just as poor. Job openings at the lowest level for 5 years.

Yeh it’s so bad the Fed decided not to lower rates

In a word - inflation. Largely self inflicted by tariffs.

The job numbers don’t lie.

So that’s persistent inflation AND a weak jobs market……. That’s not ‘winning’ anything.

Nonsense inflation numbers are down. Fed has a dual mandate, price stability (Inflation) and Jobs. If Jobs were as bad as you say then we wouldn’t have a stock market as hot as it is and the Fed would act. A lot of Jobs lost were Gov’t jobs which hurt the private sector. Trump could easily re-hire the Gov’t jobs to get the numbers up but that’s Gov’t bloat that we don’t want or need. Private sector Jobs follow growth, 5.3% GDP is growth, jobs come next and Wall st knows it.

[goose]

Forward looking indicators Goose, that’s what matters.

you’d do well to remember that.

Funny that, when I gave you the forward looking LEI you turned your nose up.
97.9 if you’re interested. It was below 100 for all of 2025.

The very latest job data is also just as poor. Job openings at the lowest level for 5 years.

Yeh it’s so bad the Fed decided not to lower rates

In a word - inflation. Largely self inflicted by tariffs.

The job numbers don’t lie.

So that’s persistent inflation AND a weak jobs market……. That’s not ‘winning’ anything.

[Nutsin]

Hahahah zero jobs growth is minor? The weakest jobs market in recent history.
Lowest consumer confidence in 11 years is minor?

and stock market valuations which largely have no immediate impact on the population are important?  

Forward looking indicators Goose, that’s what matters.

you’d do well to remember that.

Funny that, when I gave you the forward looking LEI you turned your nose up.
97.9 if you’re interested. It was below 100 for all of 2025.

The very latest job data is also just as poor. Job openings at the lowest level for 5 years.

Yeh it’s so bad the Fed decided not to lower rates

[goose]

Stop majoring in minor’s how many more times.

The stock market is a forward looking indicator, Stocks are saying this is gonna be a strong year for economic  growth.

Hahahah zero jobs growth is minor? The weakest jobs market in recent history.
Lowest consumer confidence in 11 years is minor?

and stock market valuations which largely have no immediate impact on the population are important?  

Forward looking indicators Goose, that’s what matters.

you’d do well to remember that.

Funny that, when I gave you the forward looking LEI you turned your nose up.
97.9 if you’re interested. It was below 100 for all of 2025.

The very latest job data is also just as poor. Job openings at the lowest level for 5 years.

[Nutsin]

Stop majoring in minor’s how many more times.

The stock market is a forward looking indicator, Stocks are saying this is gonna be a strong year for economic  growth.

Hahahah zero jobs growth is minor? The weakest jobs market in recent history.
Lowest consumer confidence in 11 years is minor?

and stock market valuations which largely have no immediate impact on the population are important?  

Forward looking indicators Goose, that’s what matters.

you’d do well to remember that.

[goose]

Double post 
 

[goose]

Stop majoring in minor’s how many more times.

The stock market is a forward looking indicator, Stocks are saying this is gonna be a strong year for economic  growth.

Hahahah zero jobs growth is minor? The weakest jobs market in recent history.
Lowest consumer confidence in 11 years is minor?

and stock market valuations which largely have no immediate impact on the population are important?