US Politics Thread

[stubbo-admin]

Seems like the main politics thread is becoming a Yankee-Doodle Trump-fest, so maybe scope here to split them out.

Will see if this one gains any traction ..if it does will move over a few of the million posts from our two protagonists from the other thread.

Yee-haaa!

[Nutsin]

Oh you're talking about debt again.....Moved on from Stagflation, moving away from High inflation, moving away from Job numbers, now we are on to debt........Got it.

you asked about the long game.
you do this every time you dont have an answer for stuff - just talk around in circles.

the inflation numbers are there for you to read, i gave you the detail.

I prefer to listen to Steve Liesman, I find you have no credibility in such matters.

Hope that helps!   

Are these the numbers you are so excited about?

[goose]

Oh you're talking about debt again.....Moved on from Stagflation, moving away from High inflation, moving away from Job numbers, now we are on to debt........Got it.

you asked about the long game.
you do this every time you dont have an answer for stuff - just talk around in circles.

the inflation numbers are there for you to read, i gave you the detail.

I prefer to listen to Steve Liesman, I find you have no credibility in such matters.

Hope that helps!   

So you’re happy to quote the topline number but you don’t want to listen to the actual numbers that are behind it?

[Nutsin]

oh so the data is wrong now? funny that.

heres the long game according to your CBO.
have a look at the graphs about debt.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/61882#: ... er%20years.

Oh you're talking about debt again.....Moved on from Stagflation, moving away from High inflation, moving away from Job numbers, now we are on to debt........Got it.

you asked about the long game.
you do this every time you dont have an answer for stuff - just talk around in circles.

the inflation numbers are there for you to read, i gave you the detail.

I prefer to listen to Steve Liesman, I find you have no credibility in such matters.

Hope that helps!   

[goose]

If you listened to Steve Liesman you would hear him say that rents dropped. As I have been saying all along, look ahead, Give it time, You're suppose to be playing the long game remember?

oh so the data is wrong now? funny that.

heres the long game according to your CBO.
have a look at the graphs about debt.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/61882#: ... er%20years.

Oh you're talking about debt again.....Moved on from Stagflation, moving away from High inflation, moving away from Job numbers, now we are on to debt........Got it.

you asked about the long game.
you do this every time you dont have an answer for stuff - just talk around in circles.

the inflation numbers are there for you to read, i gave you the detail.

[Nutsin]

i'll lay it out for you - the headline is driven by gasoline and used cars.
these are YoY figures:

elctricity +6.3%
food at home +2%
food away from home +4.0%
shelter +3.0%
medical care services +3.9%
househild furnishings +3.9%

If you listened to Steve Liesman you would hear him say that rents dropped. As I have been saying all along, look ahead, Give it time, You're suppose to be playing the long game remember?

oh so the data is wrong now? funny that.

heres the long game according to your CBO.
have a look at the graphs about debt.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/61882#: ... er%20years.

Oh you're talking about debt again.....Moved on from Stagflation, moving away from High inflation, moving away from Job numbers, now we are on to debt........Got it.

[goose]

i'll lay it out for you - the headline is driven by gasoline and used cars.
these are YoY figures:

elctricity +6.3%
food at home +2%
food away from home +4.0%
shelter +3.0%
medical care services +3.9%
househild furnishings +3.9%

If you listened to Steve Liesman you would hear him say that rents dropped. As I have been saying all along, look ahead, Give it time, You're suppose to be playing the long game remember?

oh so the data is wrong now? funny that.

heres the long game according to your CBO.
have a look at the graphs about debt.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/61882#: ... er%20years.

[Nutsin]

i'll lay it out for you - the headline is driven by gasoline and used cars.
these are YoY figures:

elctricity +6.3%
food at home +2%
food away from home +4.0%
shelter +3.0%
medical care services +3.9%
househild furnishings +3.9%

If you listened to Steve Liesman you would hear him say that rents dropped. As I have been saying all along, look ahead, Give it time, You're suppose to be playing the long game remember?

[goose]

Here you go Goose, If you insist on looking backwards......

tell people who are struggling to pay bills and eat that they should look forward.

even if you look forward it never gets to the target of 2%. given that real wages grew 1% what do you think that means for people?

[goose]

i'll lay it out for you - the headline is driven by gasoline and used cars.
these are YoY figures:

elctricity +6.3%
food at home +2%
food away from home +4.0%
shelter +3.0%
medical care services +3.9%
househild furnishings +3.9%

[Nutsin]

Here you go Goose, If you insist on looking backwards......

[goose]

Fuck me it’s Dumb and Dumber. You both do realize that Trump announced his Tarriffs in April. 8 months he has been molding the new world economy. And you are looking back how far?


Pair of Herbert’s. Ain’t worth my time.

Errrmm looking back from the introduction of tariffs to now, because that’s what you would do if you wanted to know the impact of them.

sounds crazy I know.

Yeah but like I keep saying you gotta look ahead Pal.....You just don't understand.

Have you looked at the data or got carried away with a headline again?

[Nutsin]

Probably won’t wanna talk about this either:
Hi
NY Fed report says Americans pay for almost all of Trump's tariffs - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ny-fed ... 026-02-12/


tariffs are a tax on US businesses and consumers.

Fuck me it’s Dumb and Dumber. You both do realize that Trump announced his Tarriffs in April. 8 months he has been molding the new world economy. And you are looking back how far?


Pair of Herbert’s. Ain’t worth my time.

Errrmm looking back from the introduction of tariffs to now, because that’s what you would do if you wanted to know the impact of them.

sounds crazy I know.

Yeah but like I keep saying you gotta look ahead Pal.....You just don't understand.

[goose]

Probably won’t wanna talk about this either:
Hi
NY Fed report says Americans pay for almost all of Trump's tariffs - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ny-fed ... 026-02-12/


tariffs are a tax on US businesses and consumers.

Fuck me it’s Dumb and Dumber. You both do realize that Trump announced his Tarriffs in April. 8 months he has been molding the new world economy. And you are looking back how far?


Pair of Herbert’s. Ain’t worth my time.

Errrmm looking back from the introduction of tariffs to now, because that’s what you would do if you wanted to know the impact of them.

sounds crazy I know.

[Nutsin]

Cha Ching!

more trade more exports!

[Nutsin]

Pam Bondi plays a blinder. DRAINING THE SWAMP!

Just beautiful!
And it’s Epstein related too.

[Nutsin]

Nutsin seems to labour under the misapprehension that anyone gives a fuck about what a rape loving, tin foil hat wearing cսnt like him thinks of them. If Nutsin delusionally looks down on you, you must be on the right track. Would be rather disturbing if the sex case thought you were on his side. 

At least I can say I have never followed you around this forum.

[One Sunny Day]

Nutsin seems to labour under the misapprehension that anyone gives a fuck about what a rape loving, tin foil hat wearing cսnt like him thinks of them. If Nutsin delusionally looks down on you, you must be on the right track. Would be rather disturbing if the sex case thought you were on his side. 

[Nutsin]

Probably won’t wanna talk about this either:
Hi
NY Fed report says Americans pay for almost all of Trump's tariffs - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ny-fed ... 026-02-12/


tariffs are a tax on US businesses and consumers.

Fuck me it’s Dumb and Dumber. You both do realize that Trump announced his Tarriffs in April. 8 months he has been molding the new world economy. And you are looking back how far?


Pair of Herbert’s. Ain’t worth my time.

[goose]

Probably won’t wanna talk about this either:

NY Fed report says Americans pay for almost all of Trump's tariffs - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ny-fed ... 026-02-12/


tariffs are a tax on US businesses and consumers.

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

zero jobs growth in 2025 = market is looking hot lol.
1% real wage growth lol

TBF Goose son, it's still better than the 0.7% increase in average hourly earnings being crowed about in November last year (from Aug '24 thru' Aug '25)
Remember that post Nutsin? The one you couldn't be 'bothered' to respond to?
WINNING.

[Nutsin]

There you go blaming Biden again.
Food prices are up 4% on the year, so 4% higher than under Biden.
I showed you the other day the absolute proof that electricity prices have gone up and are going up. They went up 6.7% in the last year.
Go check the US Energy Info Administration website.
Prices are forecast to continue to rise next year.
Cost of Healthcare went up 6% in 2025.

those are all facts.
that is why people are struggling.

Petrol prices are way down. Rents are falling and tax cuts are kicking in this year, so relax, it’s not as bad as it was and it’s improving and it will continue to improve. Job market is looking hot for Americans, wages are going up, crime is way down, life is getting back to normal. The days of 9 % inflation are over thankfully.


Its a new day! 

zero jobs growth in 2025 = market is looking hot lol.
1% real wage growth lol

It’s 2026, Rome wasn’t built overnight!

There have been plenty of accomplishments to be thankful for.

[goose]

Here’s a news flash cost of living was through the roof with Biden, Rents are starting to come down, energy costs are down, TrumpRX brings drug prices down, crime is way down, No tax on social security helps the elderly, no tax on tips, no tax on OT all kick in this year to help with affordability, but Dems want those tax cuts removed.

As I said Trump is getting shit done, can’t get it all done at once but we are heading in the right direction.

Your silly arguments will tire themselves out in the coming months. None of your posts age well, have you noticed?

There you go blaming Biden again.
Food prices are up 4% on the year, so 4% higher than under Biden.
I showed you the other day the absolute proof that electricity prices have gone up and are going up. They went up 6.7% in the last year.
Go check the US Energy Info Administration website.
Prices are forecast to continue to rise next year.
Cost of Healthcare went up 6% in 2025.

those are all facts.
that is why people are struggling.

Petrol prices are way down. Rents are falling and tax cuts are kicking in this year, so relax, it’s not as bad as it was and it’s improving and it will continue to improve. Job market is looking hot for Americans, wages are going up, crime is way down, life is getting back to normal. The days of 9 % inflation are over thankfully.


Its a new day! 

zero jobs growth in 2025 = market is looking hot lol.
1% real wage growth lol

[Nutsin]

99% of credit card debt did not exist pre-trump. It's revolving credit that is continously taken on and paid off.
that grew in december far ahead of any expectations. but retail spending in the same month was flat, so people are taking on extra debt without any growth coming from that.
on top of that, growing numbers cannot afford to pay that back. why? because of the cost of living.
food has gone up under trump, so has electricity and so has clothing, healthcare etc etc. all the essentials have gone up.

real wage growth in 2025 was 1% across the board, driven by the top 10%.

as for national debt - the accumulation of debt and speed of accumulation is completely in the control of trump. The 10 year yield has gone up under trump.
and he has chosen to make that debt worse this coming year.

Here’s a news flash cost of living was through the roof with Biden, Rents are starting to come down, energy costs are down, TrumpRX brings drug prices down, crime is way down, No tax on social security helps the elderly, no tax on tips, no tax on OT all kick in this year to help with affordability, but Dems want those tax cuts removed.

As I said Trump is getting shit done, can’t get it all done at once but we are heading in the right direction.

Your silly arguments will tire themselves out in the coming months. None of your posts age well, have you noticed?

There you go blaming Biden again.
Food prices are up 4% on the year, so 4% higher than under Biden.
I showed you the other day the absolute proof that electricity prices have gone up and are going up. They went up 6.7% in the last year.
Go check the US Energy Info Administration website.
Prices are forecast to continue to rise next year.
Cost of Healthcare went up 6% in 2025.

those are all facts.
that is why people are struggling.

Petrol prices are way down. Rents are falling and tax cuts are kicking in this year, so relax, it’s not as bad as it was and it’s improving and it will continue to improve. Job market is looking hot for Americans, wages are going up, crime is way down, life is getting back to normal. The days of 9 % inflation are over thankfully.


Its a new day! 

[goose]

99% of that debt occurred before Trump took office. Trump has been telling the Fed to lower rates all year. 

Trump has also proposed capping the extortionate interest rates they charge to 10% but that doesn’t happen over night due to the push back from the banks and the courts.

Wage growth is up, other than a magic wand how do you expect Trump to fix the problem so quickly?

I know he is shockingly succesful so far and has delivered huge wins in so many areas that you think he is a magician but some things take time.

There isn’t a man on earth that could fix all of Biden’s fuck ups in 12 months. But Trump has impressed on so many so far. This one might take a little bit longer, be patient he’s working on it.

99% of credit card debt did not exist pre-trump. It's revolving credit that is continously taken on and paid off.
that grew in december far ahead of any expectations. but retail spending in the same month was flat, so people are taking on extra debt without any growth coming from that.
on top of that, growing numbers cannot afford to pay that back. why? because of the cost of living.
food has gone up under trump, so has electricity and so has clothing, healthcare etc etc. all the essentials have gone up.

real wage growth in 2025 was 1% across the board, driven by the top 10%.

as for national debt - the accumulation of debt and speed of accumulation is completely in the control of trump. The 10 year yield has gone up under trump.
and he has chosen to make that debt worse this coming year.

Here’s a news flash cost of living was through the roof with Biden, Rents are starting to come down, energy costs are down, TrumpRX brings drug prices down, crime is way down, No tax on social security helps the elderly, no tax on tips, no tax on OT all kick in this year to help with affordability, but Dems want those tax cuts removed.

As I said Trump is getting shit done, can’t get it all done at once but we are heading in the right direction.

Your silly arguments will tire themselves out in the coming months. None of your posts age well, have you noticed?

There you go blaming Biden again.
Food prices are up 4% on the year, so 4% higher than under Biden.
I showed you the other day the absolute proof that electricity prices have gone up and are going up. They went up 6.7% in the last year.
Go check the US Energy Info Administration website.
Prices are forecast to continue to rise next year.
Cost of Healthcare went up 6% in 2025.

those are all facts.
that is why people are struggling.

[Nutsin]

Yeh imagine a sitting President being repsonsible for the standard of living in the country he governs?
hilarious.

99% of that debt occurred before Trump took office. Trump has been telling the Fed to lower rates all year. 

Trump has also proposed capping the extortionate interest rates they charge to 10% but that doesn’t happen over night due to the push back from the banks and the courts.

Wage growth is up, other than a magic wand how do you expect Trump to fix the problem so quickly?

I know he is shockingly succesful so far and has delivered huge wins in so many areas that you think he is a magician but some things take time.

There isn’t a man on earth that could fix all of Biden’s fuck ups in 12 months. But Trump has impressed on so many so far. This one might take a little bit longer, be patient he’s working on it.

99% of credit card debt did not exist pre-trump. It's revolving credit that is continously taken on and paid off.
that grew in december far ahead of any expectations. but retail spending in the same month was flat, so people are taking on extra debt without any growth coming from that.
on top of that, growing numbers cannot afford to pay that back. why? because of the cost of living.
food has gone up under trump, so has electricity and so has clothing, healthcare etc etc. all the essentials have gone up.

real wage growth in 2025 was 1% across the board, driven by the top 10%.

as for national debt - the accumulation of debt and speed of accumulation is completely in the control of trump. The 10 year yield has gone up under trump.
and he has chosen to make that debt worse this coming year.

Here’s a news flash cost of living was through the roof with Biden, Rents are starting to come down, energy costs are down, TrumpRX brings drug prices down, crime is way down, No tax on social security helps the elderly, no tax on tips, no tax on OT all kick in this year to help with affordability, but Dems want those tax cuts removed.

As I said Trump is getting shit done, can’t get it all done at once but we are heading in the right direction.

Your silly arguments will tire themselves out in the coming months. None of your posts age well, have you noticed?