Liverpool vs West Ham | PL | 28.2.26 | Predictions & Match Thread

[Mad Ferret]

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[Rossal]

As already stated he may not be the answer.   But after finding a system and style which has made us look a much better team, and seeing us countless times having to revert from this style into a more defensive one and throw away a shit load of points. Filling the bench with players which allow us to keep and refresh the successful shape and style in matches is obviously a better option than having to keep being forced to change it due to the players selected on the bench. 

Earthy has legs, can press well and plays in the positions which suit that style best.  You can't tell me having Kilman as a 5th choice defender on the bench makes more sense than the Earthy option. Like I said, we've seen him come on for us and not looked out of place......he even has scored in the prem for us off the bench. Our only option at the moment is Traore and Wilson, for me that isn't good enough nor does it give you many options if we need to win games between now and the end of the season. 

It's all about opinions, but 5 defenders on the bench won't win us many matches if we need something off the bench. 

[Eerie Decent]

In the 8 games since George Earthy signed for Bristol City,  come off the bench if the first 3 of those, and in the other 5, he started once but got dragged off after an hour, in the other games he only came off the bench once, and was even dropped from the squad altogether for 1 game.

Callum Marshall scored on his debut for Bochum, but has not scored since, starting 3 out of 6 games. To be honest, after his cameo against Leeds, I'm surprised people still think he is a viable option.

It'd be a real shame if Earthy doesn't make it with us, but at 21, the signs are not great. If he currently had enough about him to sling on in Premier League matches, this manager would've done it. His manager in the Championship has stopped slinging him on, quite why some are so adamant he should be doing it for us is a bit bizarre.

[Rossal]

Well personally I would rather have Earthy as a option to bring on up top as legs for the final 10 mins if we are leading than waste the spot with Kilman or a couple of full backs.   I dont think Earthy would perform any worse than any of the other academy lads when given a chance. 

[fraser]

Fucking hell Rossal nobody is being dim and everyone would prefer attacking options on the bench but the point you're missing is he doesn't think they're capable and would cost us so there is fuck all point having them on the bench because he won't use them because they're not good enough to do what he wants from an attacking player.. So he has players on the bench he can use... It's just fucking unfortunately the state of our squad 

[Rossal]

And for the record, i dont think Earthy or maybe even Marshall would do any worse than Traore from what i've seen so far from him......Nuno's goldenboy.  Certainly better in the attacking areas than the 5 defenders mentioned. 

Hopefully that's clearly enough explained now 

[Rossal]

Really fucking dim in here. Its simple 

We have encountered a bit of form playing a more attacking style 

So the point the guy below is making is put some more attackers on the bench to keep going with the more attacking style that works 

Rather then having Scarles, Mayers, Kilman, Todibo and Walker Peters all sat there and forced to go into the defensive shit that has cost us time after time 

 

[Mad Ferret]

Rossal consistently has the most braindead takes.

[stubbo-admin]

Fraser, it really isnt hard to understand the point 

He is saying we need to win games, and we are more likely to do that with attacking options on the bench than a bench full of defenders, of which some are youth anyway. 

Having Marshall or Earthy on the bench would be better options than 3 centre halves to win games to keep us up. 

Just because Nuno hasnt picked them doesn't mean that is the correct decision. This is a bloke that played Scarles at right back ffs. 

Sorry but that's just a daft argument, I play up front as well, maybe Nuno can select me? You can't just select players by default.

Agree with this sentiment....Nuno if nothing else, has not been afraid to 'chuck the kids in'....so if certain kids aren't getting on the bench even, it highly suggests they're not close to the required standard.

We know Nuno prizes duel winning and physicality very very highly. Maybe these other kids simply don't have that, and he feels bringing on a guy like Kante slightly out of position is a better option. 

The only guy I was surprised not to see in the last game was Lewis Orford over Mayers. Felt like Mayers would never get on ahead of the two seconds choice full backs or centre backs.  But maybe Nuno's view was he'd go to a back 3 before bringing on Lewis so his inclusion would have been pointless.

Scarles, Mayers and Kante have all shown they can compete physically. If the other kids can't it's likely why they're not involved.

[El Scorchio]

Fraser, it really isnt hard to understand the point 

He is saying we need to win games, and we are more likely to do that with attacking options on the bench than a bench full of defenders, of which some are youth anyway. 

Having Marshall or Earthy on the bench would be better options than 3 centre halves to win games to keep us up. 

Just because Nuno hasnt picked them doesn't mean that is the correct decision. This is a bloke that played Scarles at right back ffs. 

No I get the point I just don't think we have the players to do it, no point picking attacking players if they're not up to it. Which is why his claim that he doesn't want to attack is ridiculous when he bought a player who he thought was up to it then went two up front. 

Common sense

[Manuel]

Fraser, it really isnt hard to understand the point 

He is saying we need to win games, and we are more likely to do that with attacking options on the bench than a bench full of defenders, of which some are youth anyway. 

Having Marshall or Earthy on the bench would be better options than 3 centre halves to win games to keep us up. 

Just because Nuno hasnt picked them doesn't mean that is the correct decision. This is a bloke that played Scarles at right back ffs. 

Sorry but that's just a daft argument, I play up front as well, maybe Nuno can select me? You can't just select players by default.

[fraser]

Fraser, it really isnt hard to understand the point 

He is saying we need to win games, and we are more likely to do that with attacking options on the bench than a bench full of defenders, of which some are youth anyway. 

Having Marshall or Earthy on the bench would be better options than 3 centre halves to win games to keep us up. 

Just because Nuno hasnt picked them doesn't mean that is the correct decision. This is a bloke that played Scarles at right back ffs. 

No I get the point I just don't think we have the players to do it, no point picking attacking players if they're not up to it. Which is why his claim that he doesn't want to attack is ridiculous when he bought a player who he thought was up to it then went two up front. 

[Massive Attack]

Fraser
You talk utter shit again.
We're in the bottom 3 still,looking stale again with consecutive draws in must win games and a negative team selection against a LG1 team.
Nuno hasn't played any attacking youth as he's reluctant to attack. Let alone put a dynamic youth player on the bench.
If Marshall had been given the chance that Pablo had in a 2 up front situation he'll look as good as Pablo has,not that I think Pablo is a as good as some make out,he's just better than the awful negative teams Nuno put out before PACO came, chases down a defending and scores.
You still think having 7 defensive players on the bench is going to win us games ? It beggars belief that some still think this is going to work. Alternatives are what we need and if that is a couple of young inform youth players than so be it. 





 

 

Looking stale?  Think personally that'a a barmy take on things.  Against Bourmeouth our xG (which is at least a measure of the volume/quality of chances we created) was predictive of a 3-0 win.  We played that game perfectly, restricting them to nothing whilst creating big chances we would have expected to at least score one from.  Bowen should have had a penalty too at the death when frankly Truffert wipes him out (even our refereeing nemesis Hackett described this missed decision as terrible).

Against Man Utd, again we played that perfectly, and were undone by a moment of brilliance from a striker who got what was not even a half chance in the dying seconds.

Both those games we looked like winning.  We're not the harlem globetrotters.  But we are putting ourselves in a position to win the game, every game we play.  Our form is 11 points from 6 games (nearly 2 points per game!). 

We're doing the right things, we're playing well.  We aren't stale...although our tiny squad will no doubt bite us in the run in.  We need to trust the process,...our game plan is looking good every game right now with the resources we have.  And if somehow we start to see some luck go in our favour, we might squeak out of it at the last game of the season.

The next 4 games though are somewhat brutal...somehow we need everyone to hold the line through those games, as the primary targetable games come after them.

Agree with a lot of that. He just needs to address the in-game management at times and some of the selections so to give us a better chance of winning then we are on to something (1 win in the last 4 when it should have been more). Can't fault the players these days as they are clearly busting a bollock. We can get out of this but needs to be almost faultless during this crunch time period. 

[Dick Shaftsbury]

Fraser
You talk utter shit again.
We're in the bottom 3 still,looking stale again with consecutive draws in must win games and a negative team selection against a LG1 team.
Nuno hasn't played any attacking youth as he's reluctant to attack. Let alone put a dynamic youth player on the bench.
If Marshall had been given the chance that Pablo had in a 2 up front situation he'll look as good as Pablo has,not that I think Pablo is a as good as some make out,he's just better than the awful negative teams Nuno put out before PACO came, chases down a defending and scores.
You still think having 7 defensive players on the bench is going to win us games ? It beggars belief that some still think this is going to work. Alternatives are what we need and if that is a couple of young inform youth players than so be it. 




 

 

Looking stale?  Think personally that'a a barmy take on things.  Against Bourmeouth our xG (which is at least a measure of the volume/quality of chances we created) was predictive of a 3-0 win.  We played that game perfectly, restricting them to nothing whilst creating big chances we would have expected to at least score one from.  Bowen should have had a penalty too at the death when frankly Truffert wipes him out (even our refereeing nemesis Hackett described this missed decision as terrible).

Against Man Utd, again we played that perfectly, and were undone by a moment of brilliance from a striker who got what was not even a half chance in the dying seconds.

Both those games we looked like winning.  We're not the harlem globetrotters.  But we are putting ourselves in a position to win the game, every game we play.  Our form is 11 points from 6 games (nearly 2 points per game!). 

We're doing the right things, we're playing well.  We aren't stale...although our tiny squad will no doubt bite us in the run in.  We need to trust the process,...our game plan is looking good every game right now with the resources we have.  And if somehow we start to see some luck go in our favour, we might squeak out of it at the last game of the season.

The next 4 games though are somewhat brutal...somehow we need everyone to hold the line through those games, as the primary targetable games come after them.

Great post fella.

[Mad Ferret]

Against Bournemouth didn't he have Wilson, Traore and Ajala on the bench? 3 forwards?

Wilson, Traore and the box-to-box CM Kante.

[stubbo-admin]

Fraser
You talk utter shit again.
We're in the bottom 3 still,looking stale again with consecutive draws in must win games and a negative team selection against a LG1 team.
Nuno hasn't played any attacking youth as he's reluctant to attack. Let alone put a dynamic youth player on the bench.
If Marshall had been given the chance that Pablo had in a 2 up front situation he'll look as good as Pablo has,not that I think Pablo is a as good as some make out,he's just better than the awful negative teams Nuno put out before PACO came, chases down a defending and scores.
You still think having 7 defensive players on the bench is going to win us games ? It beggars belief that some still think this is going to work. Alternatives are what we need and if that is a couple of young inform youth players than so be it. 



 

 

 

Looking stale?  Think personally that'a a barmy take on things.  Against Bourmeouth our xG (which is at least a measure of the volume/quality of chances we created) was predictive of a 3-0 win.  We played that game perfectly, restricting them to nothing whilst creating big chances we would have expected to at least score one from.  Bowen should have had a penalty too at the death when frankly Truffert wipes him out (even our refereeing nemesis Hackett described this missed decision as terrible).

Against Man Utd, again we played that perfectly, and were undone by a moment of brilliance from a striker who got what was not even a half chance in the dying seconds.

Both those games we looked like winning.  We're not the harlem globetrotters.  But we are putting ourselves in a position to win the game, every game we play.  Our form is 11 points from 6 games (nearly 2 points per game!). 

We're doing the right things, we're playing well.  We aren't stale...although our tiny squad will no doubt bite us in the run in.  We need to trust the process,...our game plan is looking good every game right now with the resources we have.  And if somehow we start to see some luck go in our favour, we might squeak out of it at the last game of the season.

The next 4 games though are somewhat brutal...somehow we need everyone to hold the line through those games, as the primary targetable games come after them.

[Rossal]

Against Bournemouth didn't he have Wilson, Traore and Ajala on the bench? 3 forwards?

No

[Manuel]

Against Bournemouth didn't he have Wilson, Traore and Ajala on the bench? 3 forwards?

[Rossal]

Having Marshall or Earthy on the bench would be better options than 3 centre halves to win games to keep us up. 

 

Mate, Marshall can't get a game in the German 2nd division, and Earthy can't get a game in the Championship.

They are NOT the answer.

Everyone knows they are not the answer. But at the moment its the best answer out of the shit squad we have to choose from. 

[Mad Ferret]

Having Marshall or Earthy on the bench would be better options than 3 centre halves to win games to keep us up. 
 

Mate, Marshall can't get a game in the German 2nd division, and Earthy can't get a game in the Championship.

They are NOT the answer.

[Rossal]

Fraser, it really isnt hard to understand the point 

He is saying we need to win games, and we are more likely to do that with attacking options on the bench than a bench full of defenders, of which some are youth anyway. 

Having Marshall or Earthy on the bench would be better options than 3 centre halves to win games to keep us up. 

Just because Nuno hasnt picked them doesn't mean that is the correct decision. This is a bloke that played Scarles at right back ffs. 

[fraser]

Fraser
You talk utter shit again.
We're in the bottom 3 still,looking stale again with consecutive draws in must win games and a negative team selection against a LG1 team.
Nuno hasn't played any attacking youth as he's reluctant to attack. Let alone put a dynamic youth player on the bench.
If Marshall had been given the chance that Pablo had in a 2 up front situation he'll look as good as Pablo has,not that I think Pablo is a as good as some make out,he's just better than the awful negative teams Nuno put out before PACO came, chases down a defending and scores.
You still think having 7 defensive players on the bench is going to win us games ? It beggars belief that some still think this is going to work. Alternatives are what we need and if that is a couple of young inform youth players than so be it. 


 

Ha ha seriously he sees them training with the first team and has picked the ones that he thinks can hold their own... You don't see them training with the first team.. Who knows better   oh you of course.. You're even still droning on about a cup game which we won ffs...

So we didn't need Pablo because Marshall is just as good but Nuno didn't want to play him because Nuno didn't want to attack but went and bought a player who could do what he didn't want to do then played him and attacked.. Wtf you lunatic 

[Mex Martillo]

Yes, same team again, but not like Ferret sets them up. Should be 4-5-1 or 4-2-3-1.
It will be massive if we get something and on form I fancy our chances.

[BoleynGone]

Fraser
You talk utter shit again.
We're in the bottom 3 still,looking stale again with consecutive draws in must win games and a negative team selection against a LG1 team.
Nuno hasn't played any attacking youth as he's reluctant to attack. Let alone put a dynamic youth player on the bench.
If Marshall had been given the chance that Pablo had in a 2 up front situation he'll look as good as Pablo has,not that I think Pablo is a as good as some make out,he's just better than the awful negative teams Nuno put out before PACO came, chases down a defending and scores.
You still think having 7 defensive players on the bench is going to win us games ? It beggars belief that some still think this is going to work. Alternatives are what we need and if that is a couple of young inform youth players than so be it. 
 

[El Scorchio]

Yup. Nuno has show absolute willing to use youth players if he thinks they are ready. Fearon would be there if he thought he was also ready. 

[fraser]

Replace Soucek with Fearon in Pablo's role.
Full of running and great passing to link up the midfield and attack.
It's the simplest change, and he showed how good he was in pre season compared to our then midfield/ dead wood.

I forgot about him but surely if he was doing it in training he'd make the bench.. Looked very good