Manchester City and these 115 Charges!

[Sydney_Iron]

if we look like going down, then fingers crossed Man City get a hefty points deduction............You now it make sense

BUT, Its now 3 years since the PL brought these 115 charges against Man City and on a number of occasions they have said it will be resolved soon? Well until Man City submit more documents and such, up to 500,000 documents that are now related to the case for the Lawyers to go through on both sides

How much further can they kick this can down the road? Not helping the PL either, they need to get this sorted once and for all.

 

 

[nychammer]

The PL did absolutely nothing to punish the 'Top 6' over the European Super League debacle, what makes you think the would deduct points for Financial Mismanagement. That's for teams like us and Everton not the golden unicorns

[Mad Ferret]

I see the PL have changed the kick off time for our meeting on the 14th March to supposedly accommodate them even further.

City play Real Madrid on the 10th and 17th so I'm not sure what difference them playing seven and a half hours later will make to be honest.

That’s old news.

Plus it suits us anyway.

[Gary Strodders shank]

I see the PL have changed the kick off time for our meeting on the 14th March to supposedly accommodate them even further.

City play Real Madrid on the 10th and 17th so I'm not sure what difference them playing seven and a half hours later will make to be honest.

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

For me, personally, it's a tough call. Would I prefer we went down or stay up and see Arsenal walk way with the title? I dunno.

WTF?? You've gotta be joking??

Yep can't get my head around that, I don't actually mind if Arsenal win the title I would prefer City to win it as it would be fun to see them choke again.. But if they do win it will shut up all the insufferable spurs fans... Those cunts dine out on every dropped Arsenal point ffs 

Perfect scenario is N17  holding fast on their current course and Man City winning the league.
Arsenal never used to bother me...they do now.
What's left of their old school must be so  proud of having a fan base of third world  divs.

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

City have to play Real either side of playing us. 

[dealcanvey]

For me, personally, it's a tough call. Would I prefer we went down or stay up and see Arsenal walk way with the title? I dunno.

Said no fan of their own club ever.

[Sydney_Iron]

For me, personally, it's a tough call. Would I prefer we went down or stay up and see Arsenal walk way with the title? I dunno.

Fuck me wils, it's a no brainer between going down or seeing Arsenal win the title, of course you would want us to stay up, surely?

As to Arsenal if they are to win the PL, then if it's a season that Man City got a big points deduction for these charges then that season would always be remembered for that and NOT Arsenal being champions, if anything people would point to any points deduction as the reason Arsenal won it 

[Gank]

Oddly, the reasons why you hate Arsenal so much are the exact same reasons why I don't care if they win the league. They'll just forget about it if they have a slow start to next season.

[wils]

Watching some of the posts on this thread suggests that a reality reset is required.

1. If you support west Ham, you hate Millwall. This is non negotiable, whatever the media would have you think.
2. See 1

We'll continue to pay lip service to that olde hatred. But in the context of modern football and threats to our enjoyment of it, Arsenal are (or should be) West Ham and Millwall's common enemy.

[Mike Oxsaw]

Watching some of the posts on this thread suggests that a reality reset is required.

1. If you support west Ham, you hate Millwall. This is non negotiable, whatever the media would have you think.
2. See 1

[Swiss.]

I despise Chelsea and Spurs so Arenal are not the highest on the pecking order. I'd rather they win the title than the scousers or the scum. (united) . In preference I'd have City win it besides us of course 

[Tomshardware]

Dunno. I think you have to be soft in the head not to have visceral disgust for Arsenal and everything they and their fans stand for. 

Even their history uprooting from Woolwich to north London to achingly loathsome song they started singing. Everything about them is kryptonite to the way the West Ham fanbase experiences football: localised, rooted in tradition with fans concentrated in a region associated with that tradition. 

It’s not helped by the resentment bred over years of always having a number of mates from school days though to middle aged adult that have been Arsenal fans and having to reciprocate their texts of goodwill on our big games through gritted teeth. 

Then don’t get me started on the amount of online videos you see where some woke lunatic is doing or saying something extreme while wearing an Arsenal shirt. Starmer a case in point. 

Yeah, hate Tottenham as much as the next West Ham fan but sense of loathing for Arsenal on a whole different level. 

 

 

Couldn't agree more with this post.  A club which seems to have no identity or soul at the core.  A club which seems to be entwined with the online social media era.  That cringey anthem they play,  and their generic chants that the fans sing. I used to hate Chelsea in the Abramovic era but we have more in common with Chelsea as a club than Arsenal.    

[fraser]

City have to play Real either side of playing us. 

[goose]

If we survive I will be fucking thrilled, even if that comes about through someone else getting a points deduction.

outside of that i do not give a fuck what happens to anyone else.

[wils]

Dunno. I think you have to be soft in the head not to have visceral disgust for Arsenal and everything they and their fans stand for. 

Even their history uprooting from Woolwich to north London to achingly loathsome song they started singing. Everything about them is kryptonite to the way the West Ham fanbase experiences football: localised, rooted in tradition with fans concentrated in a region associated with that tradition. 

It’s not helped by the resentment bred over years of always having a number of mates from school days though to middle aged adult that have been Arsenal fans and having to reciprocate their texts of goodwill on our big games through gritted teeth. 

Then don’t get me started on the amount of online videos you see where some woke lunatic is doing or saying something extreme while wearing an Arsenal shirt. Starmer a case in point. 

Yeah, hate Tottenham as much as the next West Ham fan but sense of loathing for Arsenal on a whole different level. 

[John Drake]

You'd need to be soft in the head to prefer a West Ham relegation if it meant Arsenal were denied the title.

Ideally, for me, they will already have the league sewn up with important cup games on the horizon before we get to play them

[fraser]

For me, personally, it's a tough call. Would I prefer we went down or stay up and see Arsenal walk way with the title? I dunno.

WTF?? You've gotta be joking??

Yep can't get my head around that, I don't actually mind if Arsenal win the title I would prefer City to win it as it would be fun to see them choke again.. But if they do win it will shut up all the insufferable spurs fans... Those cunts dine out on every dropped Arsenal point ffs 

[Manuel]

For me, personally, it's a tough call. Would I prefer we went down or stay up and see Arsenal walk way with the title? I dunno.

WTF?? You've gotta be joking??

[Mad Ferret]

For me, personally, it's a tough call. Would I prefer we went down or stay up and see Arsenal walk way with the title? I dunno.

Don’t give a fuck about Arsenal winning the title, especially if it means we stay in the PL.

Plus the title win would always have an asterisk next to it.

Fair point about the asterisk! Although I sometimes wonder if I hate Arsenal (and their fans) more than I support West Ham so that asterisk might not be much of a consolation. The demise of the Hammers would be depressing, but Arsenal winning the league will provoke projectile vomiting and that asterisk isn't going to temper the violence of it.

Sorry mate, I reserve that level of hatred for Sp*rs.

[wils]

For me, personally, it's a tough call. Would I prefer we went down or stay up and see Arsenal walk way with the title? I dunno.

Don’t give a fuck about Arsenal winning the title, especially if it means we stay in the PL.

Plus the title win would always have an asterisk next to it.

Fair point about the asterisk! Although I sometimes wonder if I hate Arsenal (and their fans) more than I support West Ham so that asterisk might not be much of a consolation. The demise of the Hammers would be depressing, but Arsenal winning the league will provoke projectile vomiting and that asterisk isn't going to temper the violence of it.

[Mad Ferret]

For me, personally, it's a tough call. Would I prefer we went down or stay up and see Arsenal walk way with the title? I dunno.

Don’t give a fuck about Arsenal winning the title, especially if it means we stay in the PL.

Plus the title win would always have an asterisk next to it.

[wils]

For me, personally, it's a tough call. Would I prefer we went down or stay up and see Arsenal walk way with the title? I dunno.

[fraser]

Bottom line for me is will it affect the PLs revenue, if the answer is no they won't give a fuck about their brand... 

[Sydney_Iron]

 

Really, I think the PL brand is fine do you think the world and all the plastic glory hunters will stop watching, I don't. 
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Maybe but its not such a good look for the PL, just read something on ESPN about it as well which says similar! and this Tebas bloke makes good points.

 https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/ ... vier-tebas

Tebas said it was not so much the length of time being taken, but the fact it had created "uncertainty" around the application of rules, when other clubs had been charged and sanctioned over rule breaches all within the same timeframe.

"I understand that it's a failure [of governance] -- this happened with Manchester City and other clubs are looking and watching and listening," he said at a media briefing at the Financial Times Business of Football Summit in London.

"[Other clubs are] being fined, having points deducted, and that's fine if you don't abide by the rules. But Manchester City has impunity. I speak to a lot of Premier League clubs, and the majority don't understand this either. That makes the institution weaker.

[fraser]

Have they been found guilty of them yet if not don't they have to be first? 

It was said in jest TBH! If they did get a points deduction, then knowing our luck it would be for next season............. 

Main point is how long will this saga go on, im sure the PL said this time last year it would be all done and dusted by the time the current season started, but here we are! Another year, and no nearer to being resolved and so much of it seems shrouded in secrecy.

Nor helping the PL brand if you ask me.

Really, I think the PL brand is fine do you think the world and all the plastic glory hunters will stop watching, I don't. 
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