US Politics Thread

[stubbo-admin]

Seems like the main politics thread is becoming a Yankee-Doodle Trump-fest, so maybe scope here to split them out.

Will see if this one gains any traction ..if it does will move over a few of the million posts from our two protagonists from the other thread.

Yee-haaa!

[goose]

Third and final time I ask, you would have preferred the Status Quo?

Absolutely. As would the families of the 3 dead soldiers & the people killed in Texas today.

Iran wasn’t a threat to Europe or the US.
Has there been any recent examples of regime changes in the Middle East which have gone well?

Botched by different Administrations for a start although the problem for all the region was the Iranian sponsored input to destabilising it all, hence why this is so important in strangling Irans capability to continue their terror once and for all. What's noticeable is allies in the Region are preferring to back the US on going ahead with it rather than siding with the Islamic Rep Regime because they too also realise how destabilising they are. Many who don't support them are sick and tired of the same old evil Regime and like many (if not yourself) across the world as well as in the entire region there welcomes it. 

They also had their chance after chance after chance to play ball with America who were willing to come to table but alas they had no intention for genuine diplomacy and instead continue on waging their wars by proxy. Long overdue and more than happy to see it being followed through after making such a significant targetted impact last year.

So is it regime change to free the people or is it about nuclear capability?

[Massive Attack]

Third and final time I ask, you would have preferred the Status Quo?

Absolutely. As would the families of the 3 dead soldiers & the people killed in Texas today.

Iran wasn’t a threat to Europe or the US.
Has there been any recent examples of regime changes in the Middle East which have gone well?

Botched by different Administrations for a start although the problem for all the region was the Iranian sponsored input to destabilising it all, hence why this is so important in strangling Irans capability to continue their terror once and for all. What's noticeable is allies in the Region are preferring to back the US on going ahead with it rather than siding with the Islamic Rep Regime because they too also realise how destabilising they are. Many who don't support them are sick and tired of the same old evil Regime and like many (if not yourself) across the world as well as in the entire region there welcomes it. 

They also had their chance after chance after chance to play ball with America who were willing to come to table but alas they had no intention for genuine diplomacy and instead continue on waging their wars by proxy. Long overdue and more than happy to see it being followed through after making such a significant targetted impact last year.

[Gank]

Europe probably thinks the aggressor shouldn’t be rewarded by taking Ukraine territory 
If China invaded the US which bits would you give up?

 

That would make sense if the USA had illegally broken away from China years ago and it technically still 'belonged' to the slopes. Otherwise it's entirely irrelevant.

[goose]

Third and final time I ask, you would have preferred the Status Quo?

Absolutely. As would the families of the 3 dead soldiers & the people killed in Texas today.

Iran wasn’t a threat to Europe or the US.
Has there been any recent examples of regime changes in the Middle East which have gone well?

[Massive Attack]

Third and final time I ask, you would have preferred the Status Quo?

[goose]

If they were needed 100%. More than any other time involving conflicts in the Middle East, this is the regime of them all that needed ending. Day 1 it's already going fucking fantastic in the process of achieving that taking out so many of their top dogs in power and command. We enjoyed the preview show back in June last year how targetted and impressive Midnight Hammer went and Epic Fury looks to be on it's way to eclipsing that. 

I doubt the families of the 3 dead American soldiers think it’s going fantastic.

Do you honestly believe Iran was a present threat to Europe or the US?

It's war, casualties are always highly likely, you can't be that naive to think there wouldn't be any? The devastation of their Regime Epic Fure Operation itself is what's so impressive. To destroy so much of their top command, nuclear and missile capability since last June to now is going to neuter them long term for the betterment of everyone.

You would have preferred the old Islamic Rep Regime to exist continuing on with their proxy wars and terror?

They wouldn’t be dead if this ‘war’ hadn’t started. What happened to no more foreign wars?
The US’s own intelligence said that Iran was not actively pursuing a bomb and was years away from obtaining a nuclear weapon.

Day 1 of this war and the USA had a terror attack on its own soil.

[Massive Attack]

If they were needed 100%. More than any other time involving conflicts in the Middle East, this is the regime of them all that needed ending. Day 1 it's already going fucking fantastic in the process of achieving that taking out so many of their top dogs in power and command. We enjoyed the preview show back in June last year how targetted and impressive Midnight Hammer went and Epic Fury looks to be on it's way to eclipsing that. 

I doubt the families of the 3 dead American soldiers think it’s going fantastic.

Do you honestly believe Iran was a present threat to Europe or the US?

It's war, casualties are always highly likely, you can't be that naive to think there wouldn't be any? The devastation of their Regime Epic Fure Operation itself is what's so impressive. To destroy so much of their top command, nuclear and missile capability since last June to now is going to neuter them long term for the betterment of everyone.

You would have preferred the old Islamic Rep Regime to exist continuing on with their proxy wars and terror?

[goose]

If they were needed 100%. More than any other time involving conflicts in the Middle East, this is the regime of them all that needed ending. Day 1 it's already going fucking fantastic in the process of achieving that taking out so many of their top dogs in power and command. We enjoyed the preview show back in June last year how targetted and impressive Midnight Hammer went and Epic Fury looks to be on it's way to eclipsing that. 

I doubt the families of the 3 dead American soldiers think it’s going fantastic.

Do you honestly believe Iran was a present threat to Europe or the US?

[Massive Attack]

If they were needed 100%. More than any other time involving conflicts in the Middle East, this is the regime of them all that needed ending. Day 1 it's already going fucking fantastic in the process of achieving that taking out so many of their top dogs in power and command. We enjoyed the preview show back in June last year how targetted and impressive Midnight Hammer went and Epic Fury looks to be on it's way to eclipsing that. 

[goose]

You’d be happy for British troops to be put at risk for the sake of Iran?
I wouldn’t.

[Massive Attack]

100%, though I doubt they will be needed on the ground. It's now or never and like so many oppressed Iranians who crave for change and the end of the Islamic Republic I couldn't be happier that this has finally being done. Long overdue end to sponsored terror of these evil cunts that have reached It's tentacles of terror across swathes of population.

You would have preferred for the status quo under Khamenei and his loyalists calling the shots still?

[goose]

How many years were US/Britsh forces in Afghanistan trying to do that?

It's not the same situation. Conflicts in the past were never going to make material change in the region like crushing this one. This is the head of the beast which needed toppling the most.

The entire point of Afghanistan was to topple the Taliban - and look who ended up replacing them.
There's dozens of other crazy Islamic clerics lined up to take over......... are you happy to commit troops into Iran to oversee change to the 'right' one?

[Massive Attack]

How many years were US/Britsh forces in Afghanistan trying to do that?

It's not the same situation. Conflicts in the past were never going to make material change in the region like crushing this one. This is the head of the beast which needed toppling the most.

[goose]

How many years were US/Britsh forces in Afghanistan trying to do that?

[Massive Attack]

Like ripping off the band aid. Keep smashing the Islamic regime till it leads to tangible change. Crush the cunts till they can't take any more.

[Westham67]

Its escalating the RAF have shot down and Iranian drone over Qatar, Iran has fired three missiles at US and UK oil tankers

[goose]

Europe probably thinks the aggressor shouldn’t be rewarded by taking Ukraine territory 
If China invaded the US which bits would you give up?


 

You could ask for them to give it back but I doubt they’ll listen.

Does Ukraine/ Europe have the money and military might to take it back?

Joyo you gonna stand for this son??
Shouldn’t you be branding him a ‘Putin apologist’??

[Nutsin]

That’s the difference

[Nutsin]

Europe probably thinks the aggressor shouldn’t be rewarded by taking Ukraine territory 
If China invaded the US which bits would you give up?

 

You could ask for them to give it back but I doubt they’ll listen.

Does Ukraine/ Europe have the money and military might to take it back?

[Far Cough UKunt]

[Fauxstralian]

Europe probably thinks the aggressor shouldn’t be rewarded by taking Ukraine territory 
If China invaded the US which bits would you give up?
 

[Nutsin]

More good news for those that are worried for Europe. Although I’m sure the EU might take issue with it.

[Nutsin]

[Westham67]

Three US service members have been killed on the operation on Iran maybe SF

[zebthecat]

"Our president will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate"
Donald Trump, 2012
"Obama's numbers are in a tailspin - watch for him to launch a strike in Libya or Iran - he's desperate"
Donald Trump, 2012