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crystal falace
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"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."
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southbankbornnbred
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RBshorty wrote: ↑19 Mar 2026, 13:54 Yep. Unless the the new Bills head coach hits the floor running.? The Patsies won’t need too get out of second gear.(Which helps them to have a easier run in the playoffs.!) The only crumb of comfort for the Fin’s & Jets fans is that the Draft class of 27 is supposed to be generational. Hang in there. There’s light at the end of the tunnel .?
GO G MEN.
Yeah, but even if the 2027 QB draft class is generational, the Jets stand a good chance of finding a way to flunk it. Look at 2018, when Allen, Mayfield, Darnold and Jackson were all on the board. We landed one of them and still wasted him - now he's a Super Bowl champion elsewhere!
The issue at the Jets is the ownership and them not being able to run a piss up in a brewery. Nothing much will change while Woody is the owner - unless he's prepared to hand the keys to a proper HC/GM.
The issue at the Jets is the ownership and them not being able to run a piss up in a brewery. Nothing much will change while Woody is the owner - unless he's prepared to hand the keys to a proper HC/GM.
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Yep. Unless the the new Bills head coach hits the floor running.? The Patsies won’t need too get out of second gear.(Which helps them to have a easier run in the playoffs.!) The only crumb of comfort for the Fin’s & Jets fans is that the Draft class of 27 is supposed to be generational. Hang in there. There’s light at the end of the tunnel .?
GO G MEN.
GO G MEN.
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Meanwhile the Dolphins are burning the house down. Waddle is gone as well now and we have signed a bunch of discarded bench warmers to minimum one year contracts in free agency.
Next season is going to be ugly.
Next season is going to be ugly.
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southbankbornnbred
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So long, Justin Fields.
Passed his medical, so now officially traded to the Chiefs who despertately needed a QB2 because Mahomes is still injured. He was terrible last season and would have been cut by the Jets in June.
So, the Jets get the Chiefs to take $3m of the $10m cap hit we'd have had otherwise.
Hard to know whether Fields has any talent left (he looked decent when he entered the NFL). He's played most of his professional career at the Bears and Jets - two dysfunctional franchises who struggled to coach him. He seems to have lost the ability to throw and takes ages to scan the field. He can't check-down: if his primary receiver is covered (it was mostly Garrett Wilson, and he's always double-teamed) then he reads the field too slowly to find other receiving options - so he takes off and runs...often into trouble.
He looked like a busted flush under Glenn and that clueless OC. But if anybody can get a tune out of him, it's probably Andy Reid. Another resident of the Jets' QB graveyard.
Passed his medical, so now officially traded to the Chiefs who despertately needed a QB2 because Mahomes is still injured. He was terrible last season and would have been cut by the Jets in June.
So, the Jets get the Chiefs to take $3m of the $10m cap hit we'd have had otherwise.
Hard to know whether Fields has any talent left (he looked decent when he entered the NFL). He's played most of his professional career at the Bears and Jets - two dysfunctional franchises who struggled to coach him. He seems to have lost the ability to throw and takes ages to scan the field. He can't check-down: if his primary receiver is covered (it was mostly Garrett Wilson, and he's always double-teamed) then he reads the field too slowly to find other receiving options - so he takes off and runs...often into trouble.
He looked like a busted flush under Glenn and that clueless OC. But if anybody can get a tune out of him, it's probably Andy Reid. Another resident of the Jets' QB graveyard.
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Takashi Miike
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watched a lot of footage, and just as many interviews with the upcoming draft class. I've resigned myself to Love ending up in Tennessee or New York, so will be delighted if we get one of either Sonny Styles, David Bailey, Caleb Downs or Carnell Tate. all great characters, and future stars
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Takashi Miike
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southbankbornnbred
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Just looking at the reported numbers in the Geno Smith deal. Looks like the Jets have paid just above the bare minimum and the Raiders will keep paying him, while taking Mendoza.
So he cost a 6th round pick and NFL minimum wage. It’s not a great move, but if he ends up being back-up then it’s cheap.
So he cost a 6th round pick and NFL minimum wage. It’s not a great move, but if he ends up being back-up then it’s cheap.
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Takashi Miike
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two more....
SF Nick Cross from the Colts, and TE Chig Okwonkwo from the Titans
Adam Peters is cooking
SF Nick Cross from the Colts, and TE Chig Okwonkwo from the Titans
Adam Peters is cooking
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Takashi Miike
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claret on my shirt" wrote: ↑11 Mar 2026, 16:40
Vegas would have kept Crosby if he wasn't broken.
Sorry but this is bullshit, he's 8th year we can't win for a year or two i would guess, So Crosby would be maybe 10th year and starting to decline. So the smart move is/was to cash in now and get as much as we could to enable the rebuild.
If he was available last year, I'm sure we would have tried but there's just too many positions to fill
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Takashi Miike
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I still think he's worth a number one, and possibly a future two or three. A team will take him I'm sure, but I was under the impression those dallas cunts had used up what money they had already on a different defender and the eagles had to let phillips move on because they couldn't afford him
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claret on my shirt
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Vegas would have kept Crosby if he wasn't broken.
Sorry but this is bullshit, he's 8th year we can't win for a year or two i would guess, So Crosby would be maybe 10th year and starting to decline. So the smart move is/was to cash in now and get as much as we could to enable the rebuild.
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Takashi Miike
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they're going to have to keep him as I'm sure no team's matching that ravens offer
hendrickson apparently has reached agreement with the ravens
hendrickson apparently has reached agreement with the ravens
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claret on my shirt
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Takashi Miike
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claret, can you still afford to sign the centre Linderbaum?
Adam Peters isn't mucking around, now signing Patriots OLB/DE K'Lavon Chaisson. All that panicking, the fan base need to apologise. Makes me think they're targeting one specific player at seven, that's multiple weapons now too for our new DC. I'm sure OC Blough will want some help too
Adam Peters isn't mucking around, now signing Patriots OLB/DE K'Lavon Chaisson. All that panicking, the fan base need to apologise. Makes me think they're targeting one specific player at seven, that's multiple weapons now too for our new DC. I'm sure OC Blough will want some help too
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southbankbornnbred
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claret on my shirt" wrote: ↑11 Mar 2026, 12:19 It very much looks the Ravens have fucked us over after backing out of the Crosby trade. They were very aware of his medical situation as was the whole NFL world. His surgeon has said he is ahead of his rehab and expected to play as normal come opening day. Their doctor said he failed the medical, well course he has at this stage he is recvering from an operation as they knew. The Ravens have a history of this as well.
I also wonder how this affects us moving forward, if Crosby is on the block again then no doubt we will get lowballed offer wise (hello Jerry Jones!). If we keep him we have the cap but I guess our FA signings would have been different. I am guessing, but if we now keep Maxx then i would guess we will cancel the offer to DE Kwity Paye. Fuck the Ravens!
As for the Jets, good luck with Gino, i watched every Raider game last year and yes the OL made him look bad , but he also threw some stupid picks and had many chance to throw the balla way instead of getting sacked. So are the Jets with a choice of Gino or Fields tanking to get Manning in next years draft?!
You never know what’s happening behind the scenes, of course. But I genuinely think that Glenn believes he can “win” or make progress with Geno! (Which is a bit bonkers)
After a 3-14 season last year, which flattered us, frankly, Glenn’s neck is on the chopping board next season. He needs to show progress quickly, or the fans will pile out of that stadium faster than tax-dodgers fleeing Dubai’s beaches (too soon?).
It’s possible that Mougey has a longer-term vision. Although it’s hard to know: he’s a bit of a blank stare. But Glenn needs to win now. There’s no point him tanking the 2026 season so that he gets Manning, Moore or Chambliss in the ‘27 draft - because he won’t be the coach if he fails miserably again.
Besides, we have three 1st rounders next year (two this year). We shouldn’t need to tank: we could just offer all three for the #1 pick if we felt we really needed a specific QB.
The entire pre-draft period has passed with little sign that Woody, Mougey and Glenn have got their act into gear. I just hope the three of them have inadvertently stumbled on some good draft choices. Like the proverbial monkeys at a typewriter!
After a 3-14 season last year, which flattered us, frankly, Glenn’s neck is on the chopping board next season. He needs to show progress quickly, or the fans will pile out of that stadium faster than tax-dodgers fleeing Dubai’s beaches (too soon?).
It’s possible that Mougey has a longer-term vision. Although it’s hard to know: he’s a bit of a blank stare. But Glenn needs to win now. There’s no point him tanking the 2026 season so that he gets Manning, Moore or Chambliss in the ‘27 draft - because he won’t be the coach if he fails miserably again.
Besides, we have three 1st rounders next year (two this year). We shouldn’t need to tank: we could just offer all three for the #1 pick if we felt we really needed a specific QB.
The entire pre-draft period has passed with little sign that Woody, Mougey and Glenn have got their act into gear. I just hope the three of them have inadvertently stumbled on some good draft choices. Like the proverbial monkeys at a typewriter!
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claret on my shirt
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It very much looks the Ravens have fucked us over after backing out of the Crosby trade. They were very aware of his medical situation as was the whole NFL world. His surgeon has said he is ahead of his rehab and expected to play as normal come opening day. Their doctor said he failed the medical, well course he has at this stage he is recvering from an operation as they knew. The Ravens have a history of this as well.
I also wonder how this affects us moving forward, if Crosby is on the block again then no doubt we will get lowballed offer wise (hello Jerry Jones!). If we keep him we have the cap but I guess our FA signings would have been different. I am guessing, but if we now keep Maxx then i would guess we will cancel the offer to DE Kwity Paye. Fuck the Ravens!
As for the Jets, good luck with Gino, i watched every Raider game last year and yes the OL made him look bad , but he also threw some stupid picks and had many chance to throw the balla way instead of getting sacked. So are the Jets with a choice of Gino or Fields tanking to get Manning in next years draft?!
I also wonder how this affects us moving forward, if Crosby is on the block again then no doubt we will get lowballed offer wise (hello Jerry Jones!). If we keep him we have the cap but I guess our FA signings would have been different. I am guessing, but if we now keep Maxx then i would guess we will cancel the offer to DE Kwity Paye. Fuck the Ravens!
As for the Jets, good luck with Gino, i watched every Raider game last year and yes the OL made him look bad , but he also threw some stupid picks and had many chance to throw the balla way instead of getting sacked. So are the Jets with a choice of Gino or Fields tanking to get Manning in next years draft?!
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Takashi Miike
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a lot of moaning skins fans (myself included) mid afternoon on monday aternoon, and admittedly unfair criticism of gm adam peters. go forward, almost 48 hours, and he's yet again delivered........
LT Tunsil (new deal signed), DT Tim Settle (drafted by us, and returns on 3 year deal), DE Adafe Oweh (first rounder, from the Chargers) and LB Leo Chenal (25yr old from the Chiefs). some great business there, plus WR Treylon Burks on a permanent deal, and also a depth CB from Detroit
no idea what's wrong with Crosby, but the Ravens cancelling the deal was very strange
LT Tunsil (new deal signed), DT Tim Settle (drafted by us, and returns on 3 year deal), DE Adafe Oweh (first rounder, from the Chargers) and LB Leo Chenal (25yr old from the Chiefs). some great business there, plus WR Treylon Burks on a permanent deal, and also a depth CB from Detroit
no idea what's wrong with Crosby, but the Ravens cancelling the deal was very strange
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southbankbornnbred
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Geno is probably the death knell for Aaron Glenn.
But at least there’s less chance of Glenn wasting premier picks on a QB. I really think, the way we’re heading, we’ll have a new head coach halfway through next season.
Good job we’ve stockpiled three 1st rounders for 2027.
But at least there’s less chance of Glenn wasting premier picks on a QB. I really think, the way we’re heading, we’ll have a new head coach halfway through next season.
Good job we’ve stockpiled three 1st rounders for 2027.
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southbankbornnbred
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Final word on the Tua malarkey.
It smells a bit off - and the ramifications are not great for him. My gut feeling is that the Fish know he has a medium or long-term medical issue (he has a history with concussion, of course).
If he had been traded, even in a trade that was not great for the Fish, Miami would have had to disclose relevant medical info to the acquiring team (that's the standard practice in the NFL and it all takes place around the medical/fitness tests).
But if you cut a player, the onus is almost entirely on a potential new employer to do the medical due diligence, and not just fitness tests etc. The former team has no obligation to share info.
I just can't get over the financial sacrifice that the Fish are making to offload a guy who isn't great - sure, he's been over-rated in his career - but who led the league in passing yards in 2023. It doesn't sit right.
This is a QB hungry league and there are loads of poor sides who would have sniffed around even somebody like Tua for an easy trade (thankfully, not the Jets). In those circumstances, if the guy was remotely healthy, Miami should have got a lower-round pick and a trade.
It smells a bit off - and the ramifications are not great for him. My gut feeling is that the Fish know he has a medium or long-term medical issue (he has a history with concussion, of course).
If he had been traded, even in a trade that was not great for the Fish, Miami would have had to disclose relevant medical info to the acquiring team (that's the standard practice in the NFL and it all takes place around the medical/fitness tests).
But if you cut a player, the onus is almost entirely on a potential new employer to do the medical due diligence, and not just fitness tests etc. The former team has no obligation to share info.
I just can't get over the financial sacrifice that the Fish are making to offload a guy who isn't great - sure, he's been over-rated in his career - but who led the league in passing yards in 2023. It doesn't sit right.
This is a QB hungry league and there are loads of poor sides who would have sniffed around even somebody like Tua for an easy trade (thankfully, not the Jets). In those circumstances, if the guy was remotely healthy, Miami should have got a lower-round pick and a trade.
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southbankbornnbred
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You never know what's happening behind the scenes, but the Fish didn't seem to try too hard to soften the blow by trading Tua rather than releasing him outright: even if the return was only a late-round pick and required Miami to retain a share of his salary.
Even a bad trade would have shifted at least a chunk of future cash obligations to the acquiring team, leaving the Fish responsible mainly for the remaining signing bonuses. Instead, you're getting walloped for the full dead-cap impact. Almost no mitigation whatsoever.
In a QB hungry league, it's Jets/Cleveland-level stupidity. Welcome to our club - pick up your membership card at the trap door!
Even a bad trade would have shifted at least a chunk of future cash obligations to the acquiring team, leaving the Fish responsible mainly for the remaining signing bonuses. Instead, you're getting walloped for the full dead-cap impact. Almost no mitigation whatsoever.
In a QB hungry league, it's Jets/Cleveland-level stupidity. Welcome to our club - pick up your membership card at the trap door!
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southbankbornnbred
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That's an insane cap hit. The Fish are entering Jets territory for madness with that.
I know Tua is not a great QB, but taking the full hit on his salary just two years after massively overpaying him is mental. You're going to be paying for top-class starting talent that you don't have.
Looks like Miami can spread the hit over two seasons after June 1st. But you're still looking at $60m+ of dead cap space this coming season - and $30m+ in 2027. It also makes you vulnerable in trade deals. Which is why even the Jets picked up Fitzpatrick for just a 7th rounder (despite the fact that the Jets have a billion picks: we'd usually lose out in those circumstances, and instead got a bargain).
The Fish will have to draft spectacularly well now, because you'll need good, cheap youngsters. Especially if you pay up for Willis at QB.
I know Tua is not a great QB, but taking the full hit on his salary just two years after massively overpaying him is mental. You're going to be paying for top-class starting talent that you don't have.
Looks like Miami can spread the hit over two seasons after June 1st. But you're still looking at $60m+ of dead cap space this coming season - and $30m+ in 2027. It also makes you vulnerable in trade deals. Which is why even the Jets picked up Fitzpatrick for just a 7th rounder (despite the fact that the Jets have a billion picks: we'd usually lose out in those circumstances, and instead got a bargain).
The Fish will have to draft spectacularly well now, because you'll need good, cheap youngsters. Especially if you pay up for Willis at QB.