West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread

[muskie]

Odds slashed from 5/1 to 7/2.

Watch this space.

I think we're fucked.

[Fauxstralian]

The FA Cup is a stand alone weekend game while Europe is two more midweek games with travel for one
I think winning breeds winning so unless you have injuries getting through to the next round is a good thing
The expectation is on Tottenham at home after the ‘triumph’ of only conceding 7 to A Madrid
If they don’t win all the Igor Out and panic will kick off again

[Sydney_Iron]

Not sure why Forest staying in Europe is a good thing? If anything there fans could say likewise about us and Leeds still in the FA Cup, although our QF is the one game rather than 2 for Forest.

If they had gone out they would be maybe a bit disheartened, won with a shootout and let’s be honest that’s a good feeling isn’t it?

Would imagine they would be happy with a draw away to Spurs, and it will heap more pressure on those north Londoners rather than them, not sure we will see it, think Spurs win this one
 

[Fauxstralian]

I see Vicario is due to have hernia surgery after the Forest game to coincide with the international break and may be back in a month
Means Kinsky will play a few games. 90mins not 17

[Manuel]

As was suggested a few days ago Forest weren't focusing on Europe but they are through anyway which is mildly amusing, and they had extra time. I don't think you can underestimate it, it's definitely a big distraction for them that can only help.

Yep, it was the best case scenario for us really with them going all the way to pens. Could’ve only been bettered with an injury to a key player or two.

And the further they get in Europe, the more pressure there’ll be on the manager to pick stronger sides. Surely Forest fans won’t accept getting to the quarters/semis and playing the reserves?

Agree, you can't chuck a European QF.

[Mad Ferret]

As was suggested a few days ago Forest weren't focusing on Europe but they are through anyway which is mildly amusing, and they had extra time. I don't think you can underestimate it, it's definitely a big distraction for them that can only help.

Yep, it was the best case scenario for us really with them going all the way to pens. Could’ve only been bettered with an injury to a key player or two.

And the further they get in Europe, the more pressure there’ll be on the manager to pick stronger sides. Surely Forest fans won’t accept getting to the quarters/semis and playing the reserves?

[southbankbornnbred]

As was suggested a few days ago Forest weren't focusing on Europe but they are through anyway which is mildly amusing, and they had extra time. I don't think you can underestimate it, it's definitely a big distraction for them that can only help.

Yep, totally agree. It's great news that they're through. At this stage of the season, it's at least two more games they have to squeeze in on a Thursday. Their better players won't get much rest.

[BoleynGone]

Form is temporary 
Villa's form was poor but they beat Lille comfortably last night. Same with Forest.

[Manuel]

As was suggested a few days ago Forest weren't focusing on Europe but they are through anyway which is mildly amusing, and they had extra time. I don't think you can underestimate it, it's definitely a big distraction for them that can only help.

[onsideman]

Those three Midgetland penalties are the funniest I've ever seen

[Mad Ferret]

Forest through. Good news for us.

[Beef&Tomato]

Last 10 games we are 7th in the form table, what's difficult to understand about that? 

[Vexed]

Vexed.
now that is dumb.
Not including the Liverpool result ah, dismissing a game to fit your agenda.
Again, we ddin't bat Brentford.the bookies agree with this as they would have paid for a draw.
if you want to fit an agenda, QPR was a draw too at full time.


 

Oh dear. It does include the Liverpool game as stated. Brentford was a cup game and therefore not relevant to league form. Not sure why you keep mentioning it. If it helps you to understand, the league is the only thing we can get relegated from and is the main thing being discussed on a relegation thread. But well done for spelling agenda correctly, good work. 

[BoleynGone]

Vexed.
now that is dumb.
Not including the Liverpool result ah, dismissing a game to fit your agenda.
Again, we ddin't bat Brentford.the bookies agree with this as they would have paid for a draw.
if you want to fit an agenda, QPR was a draw too at full time.

 

[El Scorchio]

Be ideal if both Palace and Forest wend through actually. Palace have got us immediately after a prospective second leg QF, and any distraction for Forest is a welcome one.

[fraser]

Forest have scored so maybe not that mental and their second 11 no doubt cist more than Midget's first 11

[Vexed]

Typical of you to have a go at the kids.
The game was a draw 2-2.
We didn't lose the game but if you want that to fit your pathectic agenda go ahead.
The kids put in a performance against a good National League team. As good as the first team against City.They had 2 players go off injured at crucial times and had to bring on 2 even younger players.
What a cսnt you are.
Some have barely played for the U21's this season and you choose to have a go at them.
What a complete and utter wanker you are.

I'll spell this out for once again.
WE SCORE AT AN AVERAGE OF 1 GOAL A GAME AND CONCEDE 1 GOAL A GAME THAT IS 1-1

For you to understnad this it's quite simple.
Villa are 4th because over the course of the season the have acheived the 4th best amount of points on the league.
West Ham are 18th because over the course of the season we have achieved the 18th most points.
By your logic the season should end now and we finish 9th.
What an idiot.

 

Well for all your spelling out stupidity: Over the last ten games (which is the only relevant time period) we average 1.5 goals a game and concede 1.4 goals a game - but this includes the Liverpool result that is rather an outlier. So shut your fuckin maaaaafff

[dealcanvey]

Forest have benched pretty much everyone for their game tonight. 

 

Crazy, but I guess Premier League survival is the priority over winning a major European Trophy, given the choice.

Seems the case. Mental considering it’s there first time in Europe in decades. I’m not sure it gives off the right message to the players. Gives off a lot of fear. 

even spurs went full strength last night. 

[Come On You Irons]

Forest have benched pretty much everyone for their game tonight. 

 

 

Crazy, but I guess Premier League survival is the priority over winning a major European Trophy, given the choice.

[Russ of the BML]

Sad to say this but Spurs will take a boost from last night.... They got tonked overall but they played really well and even at one point, if they had got a third, they could've turned it around. I am praying that they played that well as they weren't under pressure....And hoping that when they play Forest their arses go. 

Tudor's message will clearly be reminding them that they can play that well.... Just hope it falls on deaf ears. 

Either way, we need to beat Villa which is a huge task. 

[dealcanvey]

Forest have benched pretty much everyone for their game tonight. 

[Tomshardware]

Wolves have got the bit between their teeth and won't be an easy game for anyone.  

[fraser]

BrainGone is clearly on a wind-up.

Thinks Earthy is gonna return and score on the final day of the season to keep us up. The fucker can't get a kick in the Championship. 

Very strange considering we're only gonna get a point a game and go down, he's all over the place. 

[Mad Ferret]

BrainGone is clearly on a wind-up.

Thinks Earthy is gonna return and score on the final day of the season to keep us up. The fucker can't get a kick in the Championship. 

[El Scorchio]

I'll spell this out for once again.
WE SCORE AT AN AVERAGE OF 1 GOAL A GAME AND CONCEDE 1 GOAL A GAME THAT IS 1-1

 

That's a completely irrelevant stat and means/tells nothing. It doesn't in any way take into account actual results. You could measure that average over 10 games, lose two of them 5-1 and win the others 1-0 gain 24 points or vice versa and gain 6 points. It by no means whatsoever equates to one point a game.

Also there's somewhat of a gulf in quality between Man City and Borehamwood. It's not a knock on anyone to say the level the youths have been playing at although very impressive is leagues below the premier league. Those youth players the manager sees potential in/use for at this moment are getting a game. Those he doesn't are not. He's used them far more meaningfully in first team action than any other managers in recent history.

Mental isn't it claiming the last 6 games aren't good enough because we've scored 7 and let in 7 and complete ignoring the points we won which is 9 and downgrading them to 6... Then saying that's a point a game so unless we improve we will only gain 8 points... But if we go along at the same pace that's 11 points and enough... Never once said we were gonna finish 9th just that we didn't have to improve on our last 6 games to get more than 8 points. 

He's an absolute fucking retard 

It's definitely cherry picking stats and manipulating them very selectively to fit an agenda, which I don't think really stands up to logic or scrutiny. I'll say that! I don't really understand the beef with Nuno now.

Fair enough when it wasn't going well but we've gotten 15 points from the last nine league games (while playing four of the top six sides in those nine- two of them away) along with three wins in the cup, so it's going well. And while there are always things that could have been better, to be overly critical in the face of that just seems silly. If you're dishing out pelters for what happened up to January, you have to dish out some praise for what's happened since.

[Manuel]

Scraps are on here are really not what they use to be. Can't you find something interesting to QUARREL about?