US Politics Thread

[stubbo-admin]

Seems like the main politics thread is becoming a Yankee-Doodle Trump-fest, so maybe scope here to split them out.

Will see if this one gains any traction ..if it does will move over a few of the million posts from our two protagonists from the other thread.

Yee-haaa!

[goose]

Trump's response to the Japanese reporter yesterday was funny as fuck and quick as a tack. If it was said on here it would have got capitalised Ags.

Do you think the Japanese took it that way?

[Massive Attack]

That is generally what happens when someone decides to set the Middle East on fire.


 

Sorry, who set the middle east on fire over the course of nearly half a century?

[Massive Attack]

Trump's response to the Japanese reporter yesterday was funny as fuck and quick as a tack. If it was said on here it would have got capitalised Ags.

[zebthecat]

Well yes.
That is generally what happens when someone decides to set the Middle East on fire.
Give it some time and we'll get a global recession as a bonus treat if they don't stop soon..
The Americans learn nothing from recent history and Natanyahu doesn't give a fuck.
Vladimir Putin must be laughing his arse off.

[Mike Oxsaw]

I suspect that following this war of the Trump pets, the UK can expect to receive boatloads of Iranian Muslim refugees - Muslims of a different flavour to the majority currently freely sailing in.

So not only will the authorities happily continue in their quest to make Britain itself very un-British, we'll now be expecting - and expected to tolerate -  proxy street battles over when some paedo rode a unicorn up to the heavens centuries ago.

 

[only1billybonds]

Zeb.

I recently read a book about Scappaticci and the nutting squad. Some horrible stuff went on from both sides during the troubles,real stomach churning shit.

[Westham67]

Whatever talks took place over the years, it is well known, they simply couldn't keep the fight going anymore and came cap in hand to the table.

https://www.justiceforveterans.uk/p/the ... negotiated

Thanks I did read that. Even the IRA head of intelligence was turned by MI5

Are you think of Freddie Scappaticci aka Stakeknife?
He was head of Internal Security which was imfamously known as the nutting squad.

Yes the torture and execution crew

[Westham67]

I cant do the multiple quotes to many response. Iran will be more volatile if and when this war ends and more prone to covert terrorism 

 

[zebthecat]

They were negotiating in 1972  and were infiltered by MI5 later on which is subterfuge not force 

Whatever talks took place over the years, it is well known, they simply couldn't keep the fight going anymore and came cap in hand to the table.

https://www.justiceforveterans.uk/p/the ... negotiated

Thanks I did read that. Even the IRA head of intelligence was turned by MI5

Are you think of Freddie Scappaticci aka Stakeknife?
He was head of Internal Security which was imfamously known as the nutting squad.

[Westham67]

""The troubles" peace was achieved through diplomacy  "

Complete bollocks, the IRA was all but finished and had no choice but to come to the table. It was done via force not words. 

They were negotiating in 1972  and were infiltered by MI5 later on which is subterfuge not force 

Whatever talks took place over the years, it is well known, they simply couldn't keep the fight going anymore and came cap in hand to the table.

https://www.justiceforveterans.uk/p/the ... negotiated

Thanks I did read that. Even the IRA head of intelligence was turned by MI5

[dealcanvey]

Trump lifting sanctions on Russian oil and suspending the Jones Act.

Cant wait for Nutsin to wake up and spin this into some master stroke.

[Council Scum]

I do a lot of book learning from the local library the one before last Operation chiffon by Peter James a former Northern Island correspondent, The sources former M15 , MI6 or SIS , British army RUC ,IRA ,PIRA and UK and republic of Ireland Politian's PM and presidents 

Its about the how the British government were negotiating with the IRA who were based in the republic of Ireland with MI6 from the early 70s through a respected businessmen, The IRA from northern Island were no impressed with how they were being represented so they formed PIRA  "The Provos", After bloody Sunday there British government moved the governance of northern island to  Westminster because the unionist government and RUC were using the British Army to quell republican protest, After more than 3500 people were murdered and more than 50,000 casualties peace after 30 years of "The troubles" peace was achieved through diplomacy  , A photo of the late queen shaking the late Martin McGuinness hand is the book

An ideal cannot be bombed out of republicans or extremists for example if Tommy Robison got disappeared it would increase his support rather that keep his supporters quiet

I go for for quality rather than quantity Mr Anon

""The troubles" peace was achieved through diplomacy  "

Complete bollocks, the IRA was all but finished and had no choice but to come to the table. It was done via force not words. 

They were negotiating in 1972  and were infiltered by MI5 later on which is subterfuge not force 

Whatever talks took place over the years, it is well known, they simply couldn't keep the fight going anymore and came cap in hand to the table.

https://www.justiceforveterans.uk/p/the ... negotiated

[Westham67]

yesterdays escalation is bad news for everyobody.

None of the Gulf states wanted this war, and they will pay the price further down the line.
Lets say this ends in a week, does anyone honestly think that US/western presence will be safe in the region over the next few weeks? There will be a lot of pissed off fanatics who will happily target US/western interests in the region.

True they still have to rebuild all the facilities that have been destroyed

[Westham67]

I do a lot of book learning from the local library the one before last Operation chiffon by Peter James a former Northern Island correspondent, The sources former M15 , MI6 or SIS , British army RUC ,IRA ,PIRA and UK and republic of Ireland Politian's PM and presidents 

Its about the how the British government were negotiating with the IRA who were based in the republic of Ireland with MI6 from the early 70s through a respected businessmen, The IRA from northern Island were no impressed with how they were being represented so they formed PIRA  "The Provos", After bloody Sunday there British government moved the governance of northern island to  Westminster because the unionist government and RUC were using the British Army to quell republican protest, After more than 3500 people were murdered and more than 50,000 casualties peace after 30 years of "The troubles" peace was achieved through diplomacy  , A photo of the late queen shaking the late Martin McGuinness hand is the book

An ideal cannot be bombed out of republicans or extremists for example if Tommy Robison got disappeared it would increase his support rather that keep his supporters quiet

I go for for quality rather than quantity Mr Anon

""The troubles" peace was achieved through diplomacy  "

Complete bollocks, the IRA was all but finished and had no choice but to come to the table. It was done via force not words. 

They were negotiating in 1972  and were infiltered by MI5 later on which is subterfuge not force 

[,]

So far Israel has played a blinder. Aware that  Iran’s stocks of retaliatory rockets and drones are not too depleted they chose yesterday to hit the Iranian gas field and got the hoped for response.

The gulf states are incensed at how Trump is so blatantly being played by Israel.

[Council Scum]

I do a lot of book learning from the local library the one before last Operation chiffon by Peter James a former Northern Island correspondent, The sources former M15 , MI6 or SIS , British army RUC ,IRA ,PIRA and UK and republic of Ireland Politian's PM and presidents 

Its about the how the British government were negotiating with the IRA who were based in the republic of Ireland with MI6 from the early 70s through a respected businessmen, The IRA from northern Island were no impressed with how they were being represented so they formed PIRA  "The Provos", After bloody Sunday there British government moved the governance of northern island to  Westminster because the unionist government and RUC were using the British Army to quell republican protest, After more than 3500 people were murdered and more than 50,000 casualties peace after 30 years of "The troubles" peace was achieved through diplomacy  , A photo of the late queen shaking the late Martin McGuinness hand is the book

An ideal cannot be bombed out of republicans or extremists for example if Tommy Robison got disappeared it would increase his support rather that keep his supporters quiet

I go for for quality rather than quantity Mr Anon

""The troubles" peace was achieved through diplomacy  "

Complete bollocks, the IRA was all but finished and had no choice but to come to the table. It was done via force not words. 

[goose]

yesterdays escalation is bad news for everyobody.

None of the Gulf states wanted this war, and they will pay the price further down the line.
Lets say this ends in a week, does anyone honestly think that US/western presence will be safe in the region over the next few weeks? There will be a lot of pissed off fanatics who will happily target US/western interests in the region.

[Westham67]

From BEEB

Both Qatar and the UAE had condemned the attack at Iran's South Pars gas field, warning it threatened "global energy security".Now the Gulf is bearing the brunt of Iran's fury. In Qatar, Ras Laffan was hit repeatedly but fires there are now under control. The UAE's Habshan gas facility and Bab field have been forced to shut down. Authorities say they were hit by debris from intercepted attacks.Saudi Arabia too was targeted, saying it thwarted attacks in the east, and in the capital Riyadh.In response, Qatar has now expelled two Iranian diplomats, and Saudi Arabia has warned it is reserving the right to respond militarily.Iran was already isolated, but now it has severely damaged its relationships with regional neighbours who were willing to mediate on its behalf.

[Westham67]

As an aside the pentagon want $200 billion to carry on blowing up stuff like fanaticism 

[Westham67]

I do a lot of book learning from the local library the one before last Operation chiffon by Peter James a former Northern Island correspondent, The sources former M15 , MI6 or SIS , British army RUC ,IRA ,PIRA and UK and republic of Ireland Politian's PM and presidents 

Its about the how the British government were negotiating with the IRA who were based in the republic of Ireland with MI6 from the early 70s through a respected businessmen, The IRA from northern Island were no impressed with how they were being represented so they formed PIRA  "The Provos", After bloody Sunday there British government moved the governance of northern island to  Westminster because the unionist government and RUC were using the British Army to quell republican protest, After more than 3500 people were murdered and more than 50,000 casualties peace after 30 years of "The troubles" peace was achieved through diplomacy  , A photo of the late queen shaking the late Martin McGuinness hand is the book

An ideal cannot be bombed out of republicans or extremists for example if Tommy Robison got disappeared it would increase his support rather that keep his supporters quiet

I go for for quality rather than quantity Mr Anon

[Mr Anon]

67.

Militarily and their weapon manufacturing capabilities. Lets not kid ourselves,Hamas,Hezbollah and the Hooties only exist because of Irans ability and willingness to arm them. 



 

The Hooties have been conspicuous by their absence in this war by sitting tight. Either waiting under orders by Iran when they want them to get busy causing havoc, or my gut feeling they have thought fuck getting involved in a death wish seeing how the US are going about it all.

The blowfish have been suspiciously quiet too

[goose]

The FBI are now investigating former Director of the United States National Counterterrorism Center Joe Kent.


What a country.
Speak out against the government and they’ll try to arrest you.

Same happened with Jerome Powell because he wouldn’t do as Trump wanted on interest rates.
 

[goose]

I wonder which genius decided to target the South Pars gas field?

[Massive Attack]

Pop goes another one..  

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_ ... by-israel/

[Massive Attack]

67.

Militarily and their weapon manufacturing capabilities. Lets not kid ourselves,Hamas,Hezbollah and the Hooties only exist because of Irans ability and willingness to arm them. 


 

The Hooties have been conspicuous by their absence in this war by sitting tight. Either waiting under orders by Iran when they want them to get busy causing havoc, or my gut feeling they have thought fuck getting involved in a death wish seeing how the US are going about it all.