Stephen Fry on Kuntsberg

[COOL HAND LUKE]

"This fat, stupid, useless bastard has popped up on Kuntsberg's utterly Biased Bullshit Corporation show, pissing and moaning about Brexit. Apparently, we've ALL 'changed our minds' and think it's a catastrophe... he presented this as a FACT, and of course the Kunt' did little to deter or correct him... Barclays like Fry give air to their brainwashed views and never seem to get challenged - perhaps she knew he would be struck dumb if she'd said, ""Okay, and what exactly do you base that comment on Stephen?"" And of course, that's his live appearances shot to shit - he's just alienated around 60% of any fanbase likely to attend them. Mug."

[Willtell]

I've wound up all the lefties I see. I voted remain but have since changed my mind. Britain is far better out of the EU. It will have to go back to being a leader nation instead of the weak little apology for upsetting the rest of the world...

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Claret Badger 11:40 Wed Sep 13 Victories? Do YOU regard this as some sort of war? Not sure any of those who backed the right horse feel that way. Do you, perhaps, mean my met expectations? If so, then I was only ever expecting to be rid of an unelected layer of unnecessary and expensive administration, the money to pay for which had (HAD) to come from somewhere. As for how Brexit directly impacted me (not how you need it to have impacted me) is that I am no worse of financially or otherwise as a result of Brexit being implemented. Matters not a tinker's quim whether or not you can accept that - you are living your life, not mine."

[Swiss.]

Takashi Miike 11:41 Wed Sep 13 Talkshitty Mike talking shit again. So Willtell your qualification that Brexit hjas been successful is that the the sky hasn't fallen in in the UK since we left. And you and Oxbore stop going on about democracy. Its a fallacy

[ray winstone]

"''The disaster hasn't happened'' ''Most if not all left wing politicians are therefore liars and cheats'' Kin hell Wiltell, do you have anymore HUGE generalisations that you'd like to post on here, reading your guff is like glimpsing at The Express front page in WH Smith...."

[Swiss.]

As you can see by these stats between Wrong to leave and Right to leqacve is widening. https://www.statista.com/statistics/987347/brexit-opinion-poll/ June 2016 will go down in history as the biggest fuck up this country made.

[,]

"Willtell, tell everyone how you voted in the referendum."

[Willtell]

I think a lot are forgetting that remainers forecast doom and disaster for leaving the EU. Covid and Russia being at war with Ukraine affects the UK more than leaving the EU ever did. The disaster hasn't happened and a lot of remainers are getting used to the idea that being an independent nation is better than getting swallowed up into a United Sates of Europe.

[Takashi Miike]

"""and it’s reading like a cockney version of 4Chan."" beige communist, I've no idea what the fuck you're referring to? I stay away from political sites to avoid vermin like you, the polish shithead and his yank antifa chum. alas, we have moderators on here that cater to your leftwing shit, so the site continues to deteriorate on a daily basis"

[Mike Oxsaw]

"It's also a great place to begin to understand directly from the people who chose a different Brexit option from you why they did so, rather than you telling them why they did so. I suspect some need the latter to convince themselves they did not back the wrong horse and everybody is pointing at them and laughing."

[Claret Badger]

Mike Oxsaw 11:13 Wed Sep 13 GASLIT BASTARD tell me your own individual BREXIT victories I'll wait

[Claret Badger]

Mike Oxsaw 11:13 Wed Sep 13 GASLIT BASTARD tell me your own individual BREXIT victories I'll wait

[Claret Badger]

you know you're placing yourself the wrong side of history when you feel S Fry is talking woke bullshit bunch of GAMMON MELTS

[Swiss.]

"GreenStreetPlayer 11:00 Wed Sep 13 ""And as the hard left shitweasels did not get their way, ever since the Brexit vote they have dismantled the country ""' I didn't resalise the likes of Cameron, Major, May and a large number of the Tory party remainers were left wing.You really are a thick cսnt. It was the Tort right wing media who brain washed thick morons like you into thinking Brexit was a good idea. Of course they never really expained how it would work and benefit the UK. And prey tell me how have these left wingers dismantled this country? The Tories have done that themselves."

[,]

This thread is acting as a sump and collecting up the nonsense posts and it’s reading like a cockney version of 4Chan. Also what strange bedfellows the bloke from Stansted and the Jap film maker are turning out to be. Who’d have thought.

[Pee Wee]

"The way i see it, is that of all of those that voted remain very few if any see it as a success and would likely vote remain again. Of those that voted leave, the majority see the current mess as nothing to do with Brexit and therefore would vote the same way again. There are quite a few though that would change their vote. Would it be enough to change the outcome, nobody knows for sure - despite the ""facts"" people like to spout. Another thing is, would any that didn't vote first time around vote this time - probably. in my opinion those would vote remain as it's unlikely anyone that didn't have a strong opinion first time around would see it as a success. Add to that those that were too young first time. The majority of this demographic would vote remain. Would some that voted first time, refrain from voting this time. Absolutely. Those that died. The ones that died of old age - a higher chance they voted leave. Those that are just bored of it all now, at a guess i'd say 50/50 from both sides. In summary, nobody can speak for certain, despite how some try to. But on the balance of probabilities of the above, I think it's highly likely the 2% changing their mind to remain would happen. add to that the new voters and old voters dying off I think the vote would be a remain majority wider than the first vote. Will it happen - No. and therefore these threads where idiots post their opinion as fact are pointless and pathetic."

[Willtell]

I have difficulty understanding the left too GreenStreetPlayer. I started out believing LW principles but as I grew up I came to realise that human beings have genetically survived by working to feed themselves and their immediate family. Most if not all left wing politicians are therefore liars and cheats that sell a concept they know can't work long term. They either go bust spending too much or make laws to control the people. That's why the most dangerous nations are those run by the left of politics for half the world. Centre right politics is all about freedom of choice and people working to improve themselves. Far right politics is the big bogey man of the left but how many of those run any countries? I don't know any...

[Pee Wee]

(nt)

[Takashi Miike]

"""If your representatives are voted in, they‚Äôll strip the public budget of everything they can get their hands on, and you won‚Äôt see a penny of it."" a great description of the creepy Joe govenment, and imagine still buying in to that january 6th staged event. untold footage proving it was, yet the long necked nonce apologist cսnt still spouts the mainstream bullshit narrative. there's a good bootlicker"

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Again, for the hard of thinking. Brexit itself was the perfect model of democracy in action. It's the post-Brexit fuckeries that people should be focussing their ire & anger on, not Brexit. The lazy among us insist on calling those fuck-ups and mismanagement as Brexit when they are anything but. Those fuck-ups could not have happened without Brexit, which is blindingly obvious, but they are not Brexit and Brexit is not their cause. The government/civil service of the day could easily have mitigated (against) all post-Brexit hiccups but deliberately chose not to."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"GSP There is not a shred of credibility about you. Nothing at all constructive to offer than diatribe about the left and how it wants to “dismantle the country”. You’re not centre right either, not any more than the nutjobs Trump mobilised to riot at the Capitol. You’re nothing but swivel-eyed empty vessels without a clue how to even run your own lives let alone a government. If your representatives are voted in, they’ll strip the public budget of everything they can get their hands on, and you won’t see a penny of it."

[GreenStreetPlayer]

"Mike Oxsaw 9:29 Wed Sep 13 And as the hard left shitweasels did not get their way, ever since the Brexit vote they have dismantled the country because they have many positions of power and influence. It’s like well if you want to change direction and vision for this country, we will make sure that country is unrecognisable, so disjointed you will never be allowed to have your vision. What has also come through though is the pure hatred the left has for the centre right. It’s echoed in the States as well."

[Willtell]

H&P I take your points but you and a lot of others miss so many points. The EU is an extra layer of bureaucracy that is paid for very generously to make rules and laws that restrict citizens under the guise of extra freedoms for simple things like freedom of movement that are there to remove resistance to changing the individual nation states The EU format is constructed in a similar way to the former USSR. An elite that are selected by a 2nd tier elite of local MEPs that are powerless representatives. The first tier sit in governance while gradually dragging every citizen into a United States of Europe against their wishes. Resistance is futile and it's fine for now but when the EU gets a Putin type leader everyone will be wishing for the good old days but powerless to do anything about it...

[Hammer and Pickle]

*no other realistic trading alternative

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Kindly point us to the any of the posts where remainers stated that the government and civil service would deliberately fuck things up if we left. Of course, ""we"" in this case is the UK and those living/working here, which are all that matter."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Actually the reality of Brexit is exactly what anyone normal with a basic education and rational faculties would have expected. The country is still politically divided over it in a state of bitter chronic trauma. Those for leaving have not got what they wanted because the UK has not been able to transform its basic trade relations with its closest neighbour and by far its largest trading partner, the EU. Neither has it been able to properly resolve its border issues in Northern Ireland or stem the inflow of labour migration into its main domestic market. Meanwhile those for staying have noted that the costs of normal trade have increased vastly simply because the requirement to withdraw from the EU’s common market and border regime has been fulfilled; specifically, the UK is still bound by EU laws because it has no other realist trading alternative without either benefiting from post-Covid relief programmes or migration-related transfers. And now the UK has no bearing on the laws created in the EU that directly affect it. All of this has been exactly what those branded as “Remainers” always predicted. Now you can huff and puff all you like - it won’t change a thing: Brexit has been a total disaster."