Stephen Fry on Kuntsberg

[COOL HAND LUKE]

"This fat, stupid, useless bastard has popped up on Kuntsberg's utterly Biased Bullshit Corporation show, pissing and moaning about Brexit. Apparently, we've ALL 'changed our minds' and think it's a catastrophe... he presented this as a FACT, and of course the Kunt' did little to deter or correct him... Barclays like Fry give air to their brainwashed views and never seem to get challenged - perhaps she knew he would be struck dumb if she'd said, ""Okay, and what exactly do you base that comment on Stephen?"" And of course, that's his live appearances shot to shit - he's just alienated around 60% of any fanbase likely to attend them. Mug."

[stewie griffin]

"what would you like to discuss, Pickle son? the standard of living in the US? I think i'd characterise it differently to how you did, if that helps? I suspect if you were to take a mean average, its about the same, its the disparity that's grown. I also think, fwiw, that any conversations about 'America' are basically pointless - the differences from state to state are so vast, and so stark, even in terms of character and personality, that's its pretty much impossible to take a genuinely umbrella view of the whole place."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Can you sustain any kind of proper conversation, stewie son? I mean, without making stupid personal insinuations about politicians you'd like us to dislike?"

[stewie griffin]

"Hammer and Pickle 10:16 Fri Sep 15 Re: Stephen Fry on Kuntsberg indeed, pickle son. Pretty much since Obama appeared. *sniggers*"

[stewie griffin]

"Capitol Man 9:50 Fri Sep 15 Re: Stephen Fry on Kuntsberg stewie griffin 9:39 Fri Sep 15 Re: Stephen Fry on Kuntsberg Again Stevie - when you asked me if I supported BLM and I responded that I supported the cause of people being treated equally by law enforcement and the law a tough one for you to understand. no... the issue is that you haven't got a fucking clue what you're talking about. You've said about law enforcement in the above, so no need to bring that back ; but you've also posted this: ""You are conflating the operations of the group that formed after the start of the BLM protests with the issues behind the protests themselves"" and ""you're confused between the cause that started the BLM protests and the organization that emerged from it?"" so its pretty clear that you think BLM was formed AFTER protests, and notably protests into black people being killed by law enforcement. In reality, it was formed in 2013 following the acquittal of George Zimmerman for the killing of Trayvon Martin in 2012. Zimmerman wasn't in law enforcement, and there were no large scale protests. So as i said, you haven't got a fucking clue what you're talking about. Like most of the extremists you associate with - devoid of any basic knowledge or facts; just weaponize everything , abuse everyone and shout louder until everyone accepts your 'truth'."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Anyway, seems what might be missing here is everything indicates that standards of living in the US are falling through the floor and have been since 2008. This really is the case and clearly the whole establishment is responsible so trying to lay blame at only one part of it is hardly going to get us anywhere, is it."

[BRANDED]

I would have thought the Ukraine war is absolute manna from heaven for Biden and the dems. Couldn't be a better Workd event outside a Taiwan war?

[stewie griffin]

"1) & 2) there's no bias involved. Have you seen his speech in Vietnam? The one where they had to pull him off the stage? Its absolutely fucking insane that he is the leader of the free world. To the point on 'it hasn't gone well' - his current approval rating is 40%, with a disapproval rating of 57%...and that's from CNN. It is, frankly, a far more absurd claim that he's doing well, that would require far more significant back up to compel people to listen. It is, self evidently, not biased or prejudiced to think he's not doing well, since its an opinion shared by the majority - and the majority of his biggest cheerleading channel at that. So we return again to your Orwellian nightmare existence. You lie, continually, and oblige everyone to participate in your lies. Anyone that doesn't, and deigns to offer any common sense to proceedings, is roundly abused. 3) you really aren't grasping it, are you? Almost every single person on here distinguished between the two successfully. You did not. There was a string of threads on here where posters pointed out the issues with the movement, and were branded racist by you & your ilk. 3 years later, you've woken up, and are now - condescendingly - trying to, i don't know, teach, maybe, something that everyone else learned 3 years ago. I'd say its weird, but its entirely in keeping with the above, re. 1984, and how people who occupy your extremist position behave on a daily basis, across a variety of topics."

[stewie griffin]

"1) & 2) there's no bias involved. Have you seen his speech in Vietnam? The one where they had to pull him off the stage? Its absolutely fucking insane that he is the leader of the free world. To the point on 'it hasn't gone well' - his current approval rating is 40%, with a disapproval rating of 57%...and that's from CNN. It is, frankly, a far more absurd claim that he's doing well, that would require far more significant back up to compel people to listen. It is, self evidently, not biased or prejudiced to think he's not doing well, since its an opinion shared by the majority - and the majority of his biggest cheerleading channel at that. So we return again to your Orwellian nightmare existence. You lie, continually, and oblige everyone to participate in your lies. Anyone that doesn't, and deigns to offer any common sense to proceedings, is roundly abused. 3) you really aren't grasping it, are you? Almost every single person on here distinguished between the two successfully. You did not. There was a string of threads on here where posters pointed out the issues with the movement, and were branded racist by you & your ilk. 3 years later, you've woken up, and are now - condescendingly - trying to, i don't know, teach, maybe, something that everyone else learned 3 years ago. I'd say its weird, but its entirely in keeping with the above, re. 1984, and how people who occupy your extremist position behave on a daily basis, across a variety of topics."

[Capitol Man]

stewie griffin 9:39 Fri Sep 15 Re: Stephen Fry on Kuntsberg Again Stevie - when you asked me if I supported BLM and I responded that I supported the cause of people being treated equally by law enforcement and the law a tough one for you to understand. Seriously - was it? Maybe I can help you with that point.

[Capitol Man]

"stewie griffin 9:01 Fri Sep 15 Re: Stephen Fry on Kuntsberg It's your arrogance and lack of self-awareness that leads you to dig these holes for yourself Stevie. I really don't give a fuck what you think of me btw. If someonelike you is a fan then I really would be talking shit. 1) That's based on your personal bias that ""it hasn't gone well"". Back to the point you should likely get out a little more and read a wider source of information. It was a shit point, badly made, with nothing to substantiate it. 2) You were unable to back that stance up with a single credible example, despite being asked multiple times. 3) I know it pre-dated Floyd, but if you'd paid a single bit of attention you'd have noticed that support of the ""cause"" did not necessarily make you a paid up member of the official organization. I never joined a protest, but those ""supporting BLM"" were mostly supporting the cause. It's not a hard concept to understand for anyone but you. Did you not understand when I made the point about supporting equal justice for all before you went onto your little rant about what the org had and hadn't done. We can come back to your arrogance again here. Your views seem to be based almost entirely on your biases and prejudices, and you seem to expect everyone to share them. If you believe it, then it must be true - and you don't seem to think you need to give examples. There's been some simple questions asked of you, and you haven't provided a decent answer to any of them. Instead you've resorted to trying to call out punctuation and changing the subject and make it about me. You seem to think you're too good to reply to the actual point being made. Pointing that out of course makes me the nasty individual."

[stewie griffin]

"i'll admit, i'm a little disappointed at how long its taking to google himself out of his BLM fuck up - which he's doubled down on - but i'm sure the angry response will be along soon enough"

[Hammer and Pickle]

"*pursuing any serious political discourse, that is."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"He makes a very valid point about being able to distinguish the personal issues from the broad cause, and focusing on that if you are interested in pursuing and serious political discourse. This applies at all levels and is especially relevant when we are all supposed to be supporters of the same cause i.e, West Ham United."

[Capitol Man]

"Bozo running to help now. I know what Master Griffin here is trying to do, he's just not very good at it. He was the one who tried to make an issue of the autocorrect on my phone calling him Stevie. He is the one that brought up Biden in one of the shittiest trolling attempts seen on here yet. If he was drinking he should just apologize and move on. He's the one who can't come up with a single, non-shit example to back up a single thing he's said. He's the one unable to parse the difference between the events and issues that started the BLM movement and an organization that was formed in the wake of the protests. He's ripping the piss out of me by making a twat of himself is he? FOMB - and you wonder why I cսnt these twats off."

[Mike Oxsaw]

"She can't stop using ""Stevie"" now because to do so would be a clear admission that she's made a mistake. Fuck Yeah!"

[stewie griffin]

"try reading, you deeply unpleasant individual. Its crystal clear to anyone with a reading age above 3 that Biden was mentioned as an example of something you've supported that hasn't gone very well, to highlight your lack of self awareness. Ditto BLM. Your wriggling is quite something to behold. Not a single person on here celebrated what happened to George Floyd. Within a week, lots of people distinguished between the cause, and the movement. You didn't. You were wrong, and as is your wont, got angry and accused anyone with a functioning braincell who WAS able to distinguish between the two of being racist. Now you're on here trying to claim that others are confused. And on a point of order, BLM was established in 2013, several years before what happened to George Floyd. It is for this reason that many were able to distinguish between what happened to George Floyd, and the movement itself. The fact that you're so arrogant that you think it 'emerged' from the George Floyd incident is probably why you keep digging."

[Kaiser Zoso]

You’re getting called out but you’re too fat and thick to realise the piss is being ripped. And calling someone Stevie amuses absolutely no one.

[Kaiser Zoso]

You’re getting called out but you’re too fat and thick to realise the piss is being ripped. And calling someone Stevie amuses absolutely no one.

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Oooohhhh - introducing the West Ham loyalty aspect there is a low, subtle blow."

[Capitol Man]

"Stevie - by ""quite Bizarre"" you mean you can't explain why you brought up Biden, haven't got a single credible example to back up what you said, and you're confused between the cause that started the BLM protests and the organization that emerged from it? Any disagreement on those things? Come on, now's the chance to show you're not FOS at all. Goose will help."

[stewie griffin]

"its getting quite bizarre now. I mean, I realise that extremists will rarely own their actions - but its a bit weird that he's now using all the same arguments against the BLM organisation taht everyone on here used at the time, and claiming them as his own, despite previously decrying everyone who denounced BLM as 'hating black people'."

[Capitol Man]

"Even goose thinks you're floundering and need help Stevie. I don't imagine you came up with that BLM nonsense yourself did you, you probably read it somewhere. That's about supposedly giving you an argument as to why you have a visceral or negative reaction to BLM. That's it's ok to think BLM is bad. It's not you Stevie, it's them! They're all corrupt and not really about helping black people."

[goose]

"Another day, another ‘disastrous’ showing of self awareness from Karen."

[Capitol Man]

"Yes Stevie - you were the one who bought Biden up. Is your memory failing you son? What you've done here in a ham-fisted, amateurish way, is conflate the cause of BLM with the organization that emerged from it. You pick at the organization to dismiss the wider cause. Rather like suggesting that if you support West Ham you are fully supportive of the business operations and decisions of Sullivan and Brady. separating the cause and root issues behind the BLM movement is as easy as supporting West Ham and not supporting its owners or what they do. It's also weak way of trying to avoiding the actual issues involved. So let's pose some more questions to the ones you don't seem to want to answer. Are you naive and ill-informed enough to not be able to separate the underlying causes of the BLM protests from the operations of the organization that emerged from it, or are you arrogant and naive enough to think this fools anyone else? Now lets put it in summary to keep it simple for you. 1) You brought up Biden here 2) You still haven't come up with any worthwhile examples of the things you said. 3) You are conflating the operations of the group that formed after the start of the BLM protests with the issues behind the protests themselves. Other than that you're doing great son."

[stewie griffin]

"As I said, mentally impaired. STILL going on about Biden. Excellent reversing on BLM. You supported it, others on here didn't because of their manifesto and all it entailed. They were right. You were wrong. And.. again.. by your own definition of your failure to acknowledge you were wrong, you are a spineless slug. As for the history, it's genuinely laughable. You are far closer to being a fascist than almost anyone on here, as evidenced by your anger at anyone and everyone who.fails to comply with your orwellian nightmare view of the world"