Stephen Fry on Kuntsberg

[COOL HAND LUKE]

"This fat, stupid, useless bastard has popped up on Kuntsberg's utterly Biased Bullshit Corporation show, pissing and moaning about Brexit. Apparently, we've ALL 'changed our minds' and think it's a catastrophe... he presented this as a FACT, and of course the Kunt' did little to deter or correct him... Barclays like Fry give air to their brainwashed views and never seem to get challenged - perhaps she knew he would be struck dumb if she'd said, ""Okay, and what exactly do you base that comment on Stephen?"" And of course, that's his live appearances shot to shit - he's just alienated around 60% of any fanbase likely to attend them. Mug."

[Willtell]

Ag ag ag!

[goose]

You mean semi-literate?

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Can’t help it if you’re a semi-illiterate, Pointy. No wonder you can’t really discuss the issues in any sensible manner."

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

"Hammer and Pickle 10:59 Tue Sep 26 'By educated standards we tend to mean a certain minimum of substance, Pointy. And you lack it even more.' That doesn't even make sense, you high-falutin' half-wit."

[goose]

"Karen has had their pants pulled down so many times by Griffin, I’m not sure they bother putting them on anymore."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"By educated standards we tend to mean a certain minimum of substance, Pointy. And you lack it even more. Now piss off again for a month, there's a good fellow."

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

"Hammer and Pickle 2:30 Sat Sep 23 'By any educated standards, CM has dissected his man here,' Looolllzzz. 'Dissected his man' = been humiliated by for several days"

[Hammer and Pickle]

"What like the ship with all your useful, witty posts, Fat Ron? By any educated standards, CM has dissected his man here, and of course you have bugger all to say about it. Yet there is so much going on in the world you could be commenting on. Like all those New Jersey DEMs calling on their party colleague Robert Menendez to resign as he faces corruption allegations. So, if you’ve got he capacity to focus on it enough, do you think the GOP would behave in a similar way if it was one of them? Come on - a simple yes or no will do."

[Kaiser Zoso]

"On the evidence, colly, that ship has well and truly sailed"

[collyrob]

Fucking hell get a life

[Capitol Man]

"stewie griffin 11:33 Fri Sep 15 Re: Stephen Fry on Kuntsberg I can only aspire to your too cool for the Tories charisma Stevie. On BLM you clearly fall the hysterical right wing nonsense that riddles much of the other nonsense you post. And yes, I did call them racist on it, because they were. Their posts clearly looked to avoid the issues involved entirely. I'd have thought someone with your sparkling wit wouldn't have devoted the time to search back through old threads anyway. I didn't call everyone on the thread racist, just those that so clearly were. I do wonder where a lot of your bullshit comes from Stevie- it's rarely well-supported. But as long as YOU believe something then it must be true. Like you projected ""Your"" view on the success and failure of Biden from the start of your post on this thread rather than responding to the points being made. It's why you fucked it up from the start and then continued to dig as you're not able to accept you fucked it up and move on. Couple of basic points for you Steve before you attempt to initiate the flow of sparkling prose contained in your lectures that you could perhaps address. I'm sure you're finding it boring that they are being repeated but your arrogance seems to make your brain incapable of taking them in on the first go. 1) I don't believe Biden is a failure, that's your projection. I need to both think he was a failure and be blaming someone else for you to have been right. 2) Not sure why you think you have me cornered on BLM as I made a clear distinction from the start that I supported the cause of justice for all and equal treatment by law enforcement. So why would my knowledge of the history of BLM matter in any way shape or form?"

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Claret Badger 9:47 Fri Sep 22 So are you saying that I should don sack-cloth and ashes over Brexit while you go about your daily business of being cool, hip & trendy? What's MY motivation?"

[Claret Badger]

"Mike Oxsaw 12:00 Wed Sep 13 Re: Stephen Fry on Kuntsberg doesn't affectmeism love it no war - who mentioned war? Victory isn't a prequisite of conflaguration merely a struggle overcome But nothing as, you confirm. has affected you this layer of bureaucracy you critisize is now replaced my an internal layer of inefficient admin - and we've lost the freedom to travel and goods and touring bands struggle to cross borders but as long as nothing affected you - BREXIT was a victory and you overcame the struggle good on you"

[stewie griffin]

"nope... you're just genuinely dull. Its not so much that you would need to think that Biden is a failure, just that you'd have to expect the President of the US to be able to speak. Too much to ask, evidently. On BLM, you don't know your subject matter - proven countless times below - and you seem to be claiming a win for coming to a realization that everyone else came to several years ago. Bizarre, but standard fare. Sadly, the George Flpyd thread has been deleted so i can't put your posts up from that, but mercifully, you concede below that you called a bunch of people racist on it, for saying all the same things you are saying now. I often wonder where these productivity level studies come from - while personal experiences can only ever be anecdotal, i don't know anyone who thinks that working with the US is easy. Its typically over-engineered, requires committee decisions for everything, and they manufacture jobs out of nothing. Always made me laugh during covid when people talked about that bloke at Pfizer who was a VP, citing it as some kind of importance. There's roughly 1000 VPs and 250 SVPs in my business - utterly fucking meaningless but not a problem, given the size of the population they have to crate jobs somehow. I'll confess to being mildly interested on hearing more on your thoughts on immigration."

[Capitol Man]

"By ""a bit bored"" you mean you've made a bit of a twat of yourself from the start of this then kept digging. Come on, you can admit it - I'd need to think Biden was a failure for any of your first point to make sense and I'd have to have said I supported all of BLM for your points there to work. His track record is pretty good in term of substance against many of his predecessors. You focus on the fluff and your social media feed too much. Yep, 86 he'll be too old at the end of term 2. I don't think he'd be running again if Trump wasn't the likely candidate - but that's the reality unfortunately. I think the GOP would slaughter him if they run someone like Nikki Haley, for all her faults. I'd like there to be a decent GOP candidate to be honest, but they've gone completely mental. You won't get an ambulance bill like that with decent insurance btw,. Not sure where the 5-1 comes from as the US has higher productivity levels. Immigration - reasonable reform needed that's somewhere in the middle. Sending people who came here as kids isn't humane, and a path to citizenship is needed. I don't think we'll get to a solution because the GOP needs a ""crisis"" as an issue. They've got close to deal in the past, but then they get scuppered mostly because of GOP infighting. Many can't be seen to be ""soft"" on immigration and they have this ""majority of the majority"" thing."

[stewie griffin]

"by your own admission, those standards seem to have been in decline since 2008. That encompasses the whole of Obama's presidency, Trump & Biden - its a pretty big leap in the space of 10 minutes to pin it all on the 4 years in the middle. If it helps. all 3 of them have been laughably bad. Much like our last few...actually more than last few on both sides... Blair & Bush were a fucking disaster as well"

[Hammer and Pickle]

Glad we agree the US is facing massive living standard issues. Let's focus our minds on those and which of the main political parties are actually trying to address them. I agree that Biden is not a giant of charisma or magnetism but the problems he faces are ones created by the GOP as the Dems try to resolve the real nasty stuff.

[stewie griffin]

"i think, pickle son, that there's a very real situation in parts of the US where the xtreme right exists, it would be foolish to deny it, but in a country of 330 million people, the 1% extreme isn't really a big deal. For many ordinary americans, you can read 'general malaise' as common sense - folk are a little bored of being the worlds police....and to see their country piling in excess of 100 billion into a foreign war while incredibly wealthy neighbouring countries like germany do very little, while their own infrastructure is crumbling and failing, doesn't sit particularly well. Its not a difficult vote winner to say they'd stop doing that and spend that money at home. Nothing especially nefarious there, in truth. It is, unfortunately for some, also an issue that Biden's kid has declared millions in earnings from Ukraine & China (source - CNN...via Washington Post). Whether there's any wrongdoing or not, its the exact opposite of what his dad said in the televised debates, and that's a problem whether people want to admit it or not. Its a very fine line they have to tread so not easy to navigate. But, which you won't like, the GOP don't stoke divisions any more or less than the other side. Many of the woke ideologies we now see are a step backwards by 30 years and actively highlight our differences rather than our similarities."

[Side of Ham]

That’s a long post for very little response….she’ll be livid in her car…..may have even set off the airbag….

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

"'If you take a critical look at his presidency.... I think he's done remarkably well' That's not what the majority of Americans think according to polling conducted by his TV network cheerleaders. You can deny any importance to polling but it's pretty ignorant to think he isn't a figure of ridicule, and more importantly of corruption."

[stewie griffin]

"bit bored of you tbh, trying to have a conversation with Pickle - although your attempts at counting are sufficient to amuse. but in the interests of being civil: - you think Biden isn't failing, but you concede you think he is too old to run. To be clear, he can barely string a coherent sentence together...if that's good enough for you, fair enough, i can respect that...i just have slightly higher expectations for the leader of the free world - Biden doesn't vex me in any way - he performs the same comic value that Trump did, just in different ways. I don't live there yet, so i don't have to pay 3 grand or whatever it is now to call an ambulance. As for jobs. the US will always have low unemployment - because they employ 5 people to do the work that one person in the UK does. In part because of the litigation culture so that everyone is terrified of making a decision, in part because they're clock watching 9-5 lazy cunts, and in part because everything requires a 'process' because people are too dense to think critically for themselves. - his speech in vietnam wasn't fine. Not even close. That's why they stopped it. - the political party you support doesn't promote the rights of citizens. That's the whole point. Whats your stance on immigration?"

[stewie griffin]

"bit bored of you tbh, trying to have a conversation with Pickle - although your attempts at counting are sufficient to amuse. but in the interests of being civil: - you think Biden isn't failing, but you concede you think he is too old to run. To be clear, he can barely string a coherent sentence together...if that's good enough for you, fair enough, i can respect that...i just have slightly higher expectations for the leader of the free world - Biden doesn't vex me in any way - he performs the same comic value that Trump did, just in different ways. I don't live there yet, so i don't have to pay 3 grand or whatever it is now to call an ambulance. As for jobs. the US will always have low unemployment - because they employ 5 people to do the work that one person in the UK does. In part because of the litigation culture so that everyone is terrified of making a decision, in part because they're clock watching 9-5 lazy cunts, and in part because everything requires a 'process' because people are too dense to think critically for themselves. - his speech in vietnam wasn't fine. Not even close. That's why they stopped it. - the political party you support doesn't promote the rights of citizens. That's the whole point. Whats your stance on immigration?"

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Ah so you are not, in fact part of the attempt by the GOP to tap into the general sense of malaise without actually doing anything practical to address its causes. You are not, in fact supporting the drive by the GOP to actually make it all very much worse by aggravating the divisions for short-term electoral gain? And you are really looking for policy to fix the actual issues, aren't you. Jolly good, I'm so glad, there's a good fellow."

[Capitol Man]

"And have away at typos and such. It's all you seem to have - it's not easy posting to any sort of length, on this site, in a tiny text box, on my phone, in the car."

[Capitol Man]

"Let's go through this for you Stevie. 1) To be a hypocrite in the way I had accused thickii and others around Brexit would need me to think Biden is a failure, and blame others for that. which he isn't and I don't. 2) I said I supported the cause of equal justice for all - you then tried to make a point about the official organization of BLM. The point you made was shit from the start and got worse from there because you tried to tie me to some shit you'd read that you think discredits BLM. 3) I heard part of his speech in Vietnam, it was fine. I bet you didn't watch it live or all of it, especially given the time it was on. You've mugged yourself off in watching the YouTube or social media clips. Biden has always made gaffes. I do think he is too old to run. If the GOP was not running a man pushing 80 themselves it would be an issue. If you take a critical look at his presidency a measure covid policy, the IRA, supporting NATO and Ukraine, forging international alliances, economic performance and jobs, I think he's done remarkably well - certainly not incompetent, especially given how he's vexing you, Putin, Xi. 4) His disapproval rating is about where all ratings are during recent presidencies.. Trump was in the 30s and low 40s through most of his I think. A lot of the disapproval comes from people who don't think he's left enough. When actual elections happen it's not going well for the GOP. a lot of people may not like Biden, but when confronted with the alternative being presented they are not keen on that either. My Orwellian existence - I'm not sure you've ever actually read him, or at least understood him given your use here. My lies? Which lies exactly? You don't seem to have found any. I re-read it recently as one of my kids wanted to read it and I needed to confirm it wasn't really that suitable for a ten-year-old. 3) No, people were branded racist because of their racist comments and in relation to BLM there attempt to avoid the actual issue the protests were about. Billy Bullshit tried to say there was no racism involved in the Floyd killing basically because the cop wasn't muttering the n-word while he killed him. The others I brand as racist are the likes of BigFatFrank, Golden oldie. You seem to be sliding into that category with your desperate attempt to discredit BLM here - why do you care about it so much and what I posted on it a good few years ago. You seem to have taken it personally. I think we're getting to the heart of your ire now aren't we. You want to tie me generically to the BLM and ironically tar me with their wrongs as a way of dismissing what is being said. I certainly don't think everyone is racist, but I think there are quite a few on this site. So again - in simple form for you. 1) I'd need to believe Biden was failing for your first post to make a shred of sense. I don't and you've clearly seen me making that case clear on multiple occasions. 2) Your examples continue to be shit and say more about your laziness than Biden's performance. Trump made the same sort of fuckups before the first debate in 2020 and made a fool of himself in a similar way to you are doing here. 2) I said I support equal justice for all, making clear I was not necessarily supporting specifially BLM - but you, in some fumbling generic way tried to tie me to some stuff that you think discredits BLM. 3) Polls don't really mean anything at this stage. Certainly they don't reflect my opinion (see point 1). 4) Orwell - without a trace of irony you make a mess of quoting Orwell, while attempt to slag me off for supporting a political party that is standing for democracy and the individual rights of citizens. YOU are the one that doesn't seem to think Ukraine is worth supporting against a fascist dictator looking to crush it's freedom, who has suppressed the flow of information and imprisons anyone in Russia who questions his government or even talks about ""war"". You need to take a good fucking look in the mirror before trying to call me Orwellian."