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Trouble in the Caucuses
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Trouble in the Caucuses
"Trouble brewing in Armenia and Azerbaijan (again). Pashinyan, the Armenian PM seems to have ceded Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijan, so the Azeri troops have started to move towards the Armenian exclave. Not very many people in Armenia agree with this, and even less seem to like Pashinyan. With Armenia's normal sponsor, Russia tied up in a war against NATO proxy in Ukraine, Iran will likely step in as the other power-broker in the area. I wonder who could be behind all of this...... This will probably last about three posts before Norfnazi delets it"
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Re: Trouble in the Caucuses
"Nagorno-Karabakh is beautiful, I went there in 2004 for a few days. Stayed in Shusha up in the hills, almost a ghost town as the Azeris all left after the first war. To get our visas we had to go to the Foreign Ministry in Stepanakert where we were seen by the ""Foreign Minister"" himself which was a bit surreal Agdam (look it up) was sadly off limits as they'd had some shooting there recently I suspect this will all end with the Armenians being expelled and Azeris moving back in"
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- Mike Oxsaw
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Re: Trouble in the Caucuses
"Coffee 2:33 Wed Sep 20 Whatever the subject, if there's a problem, it's always ""us"" at the end."
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Re: Trouble in the Caucuses
"Coffee 2:33 Wed Sep 20 Apologies, it should be Caucasus. I have a cataract in my left eye, so I don't see the keyboard or screen too clearly at the moment."
- WHU(Exeter)
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Re: Trouble in the Caucuses
"Btw Swiss, the bit about 15 year old Turkish soldiers being slaughtered? Blame the Turkish conscription system at the time for that. What would you have expected Armenian opposition soldiers to think, ""hold on, he only looks about 15, I'll let him have a few shots at me first""?"
- WHU(Exeter)
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Re: Trouble in the Caucuses
"Swiss, I would argue it would be fairer to say that SOME of the Armenians were doing that, not the Armenians as a complete whole. And it did not warrant what subsequently happened. I do agree with you though, that any book/film should at least acknowledge that some were siding with the Russians."
Re: Trouble in the Caucuses
"WHU(Exeter) 2:22 Wed Sep 20 Yes a lot of propaganda ref the Armenian genocide especially with films like The Promise funded by rich US Armenians. However what they don't tell that as Turkish soldiers as young as 15 were getting slaugtered the Aremenians were siding with Russians to invade and claim their ''homeland"". This didn't go down too well."
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Re: Trouble in the Caucuses
"Find it strange that what happened to the Armenians circa WW1 is rarely touched upon, especially given the scale of what happened. Good (and shocking) chapter about it in Marc David Baker’s book about the Ottomans, but even that’s quite short. A lot of similar books just seem to skim over it."
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Re: Trouble in the Caucuses
"That cunning Joe Biden tricking poor, innocent Vlad into slaughtering all those hundreds of thousands of people. You've been gagging for a spot to push your bullshit haven't you bovine. Someone lock this thread."
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- Hammer and Pickle
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Re: Trouble in the Caucuses
Calling the Ukraine invasion a proxy war between US and Russia is pure disinformation.
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Re: Trouble in the Caucuses
"Cool. Was he as popular as Elenskiy, promising a closer relationship with the West and peace with Russia, an end to the bombing of Donbass? Before he completely changed tack once elected?"
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Re: Trouble in the Caucuses
I was there for the Velvet Revolution when he basically came to power. Seemed pretty popular then.
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Re: Trouble in the Caucuses
"Maybe, the only routes into Armenia (for the west) are through Georgia, Turkey or Iran."