Education in the UK

[LeroysBoots]

"Any of you lot have kids at school or college ? Do you think you know what is being taught to your kids, without your permission ? My wife is a personal tutor at a college They have an HR department that instructs the staff to call all the kids they They insist on a virulent woke agenda throughout everything they do Latest, they all had to stay behind ( in their own time ) to listen to a trans in pigtails talking about how great it is to be them. 99% of all staff hate this agenda but are being bullied to accept it or face ""consequences"". I said to my wife it sounds like indoctrination akin to the Nazi regime I said to her thank god we don't have kids at school these days The head has assemblies where she doesn't address the kids as boys or girls What the fuck happened to our country and why is this allowed to continue dye to a vocal minority of cunts She leaves at Christmas as she's had enough"

[Fo the Communist]

"Mike Indeed. That's why we have the Standards and Testing Agency, an executive agency of the Department for Education."

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Fo the Communist 4:27 Wed Oct 11 ""British Values"" is a target that seems to be fairly fluid at the moment."

[Fo the Communist]

"Mike Oxsaw 4:04 Wed Oct 11 https://www.nga.org.uk/knowledge-centre/promoting-british-values-in-schools/ ""Ofsted inspectors consider how well a school promotes British values when judging the effectiveness of leadership and management."""

[Mike Oxsaw]

"So, is this house claiming that woke is on the national curriculum with the explicit approval of the government?"

[LeroysBoots]

"Ip, there is literally nothing they can do as they all fear for their jobs. With my wife she can afford to walk away so that's what she is doing"

[Mike Oxsaw]

"zico 2:40 Wed Oct 11 Sounds about right. If I ever get asked if I am pregnant, my answer will be "" Yep, 12 months and 3 weeks - it's due any time now, I'm told."" I assume that they are obliged to record my response accurately."

[iphammer]

The education system in this country is fucked. If I find out my son's being taught woke crap I'll be pulling him out of school. It's easy to blame the school head but the teachers are to blame as well. If your wife feels that strongly about it like the rest of her colleagues maybe they can all go on strike or refuse to teach woke crap.

[zico]

"Mike Oxsaw 1:35 Wed Oct 11 Yep you are right. I can't remember what the starting point was but it was something along the lines that a trans man or woman, I can't keep up, was ""offended"" that they hadn't been asked questions relating to him or her as a woman. So because one person got offended that they hadn't been asked if they were pregnant the powers that be now insist that they ask all men! The irony being the radiographers are now subject to some choice words from many men who think, quite rightly that it's bloody stupid. So because of one person being offended you now offend many more! The mind boggles but that seems to be the world now, pandering to the minority rather than the majority."

[Council Scum]

"""Neither is it the 'poor' kids that are to blame. Its point-elbowed, entitled middle class parents who fail to see the faults in their own kids and take responsibility for them"" Yeah poor kids are raised right. No doubt about it."

[Council Scum]

"""Neither is it the 'poor' kids that are to blame. Its point-elbowed, entitled middle class parents who fail to see the faults in their own kids and take responsibility for them"" Yeah poor kids are raised right. No doubt about it."

[Fo the Communist]

"I've just taken my eldest out of state school and put them into a private school. I'm not a fan of the private education system as long as state schools are shit but at the end of the day, anyone who puts politics before their kids' welfare is a dogmatic cսnt. Anyhow the problem with the state school we've just taken her out of is not woke teaching but good old-fashioned feral kids, bullying kids and the fact that bullying no longer stops at the school gates but is ushered into the home through social media. Neither is it the 'poor' kids that are to blame. Its point-elbowed, entitled middle class parents who fail to see the faults in their own kids and take responsibility for them It is also a state school overwhelmed by difficult kids (post-Covid it's particularly bad, apparently) but are unable or unwilling to take affirmative action. And the academy system has also removed local accountability - gone are the days when you could march up to County Hall and harangue the director of education or the councillor responsible for schools."

[Mike Oxsaw]

"I suspect that ""the massive overwhelming majority of people"" simply just want to get on with their lives, leaving the path open for the extremists to storm in and ""take charge"". This is doubly so now, what with inflation and coming off the back of the Covid lock-downs. There does need to be a kickback though; I simply refuse to give my custom/money to companies that give me the slightest impression that they're ""Going Woke"", but it's not my role in life to fight everybody else's battles; they, too, need to do as they see fit if they want this bollocks eradicated. I fear that, being British, they'll tell you/me to fuck off while they get on with the important things in life, like watching the latest soaps/reality TV show and then, when it's too late and starts to affect them on a personal level, demand to know why ""we"" did nothing to ""stop this shit"" earlier."

[LeroysBoots]

"If government is not advocating this woke agenda who is driving it through ?, how is this being allowed to infiltrate everything we do whilst the massive overwhelming majority of people are against it"

[Mike Oxsaw]

"zico 1:23 Wed Oct 11 The deeper worry there is if patients feel under pressure, whether implied or actual, to answer all the questions under fear that if they do not do so then they won't receive the treatment they need. That's blatant abuse in my view."

[zico]

"Also not education but a good friend of mine works as a Radiographer and they have recently been told just to cover themselves that when they ask the usual questions, eg, name, age, address etc they now have to ask men, even men that are 100% definitely men, if they are pregnant!"

[Mike Oxsaw]

"During my final year in Oman, I was constantly bombarded by demands from the corporate HQ in America to complete 2 ""Awareness"" questionnaires, which I totally ignored, choosing to focus on my work. Eventually, the Project Manager received a call from his boss (also in the US) to say that if I didn't complete the questionnaire, they would have to let me go - a real cut-off-your-nose job, if ever there was one. I just shrugged my shoulders and said, ""OK, bye,"" and went to empty my desk and clean my company laptop before handing it back. My PM came rushing up to me 10 minutes later saying ""It's OK, I've sorted it,"" and, indeed, when I checked on my corporate personnel file, I had completed said questionnaires, with top marks. Turned out that he'd got ""Someone in IT security"" to solve the problem and HQ HR were now ""well happy"" for my contract to continue. Seems that just saying you're not racist/sexist/any-ist is not enough these days - you have to prove (PROVE) it by answering a given set of questions. Glad I'm out of all that shit. Fucking madness gone mad."

[WHU(Exeter)]

"It’s not just education. My mrs works in an area involved in dealing with calls from elderly and infirm callers, who may/may not need urgent medical assistance. A triage type thing. Whilst she doesn’t personally take the calls, she does know that in the last few weeks, those who do take the calls now have to ask a number of extra questions, some of which relate to gender. She’s involved in resourcing this and estimates that the extra questions will add on a minute 30/ 2 minutes to each incoming call, and will also be aimed at people who at their age will mostly be very frustrated and confused by the questions asked. Still, it’s not as if it’s what could be a critical service, which is already under resourced. It’s incredible."

[zebthecat]

The school my son went to (local comp) was very good when he was there. He has just started the final year of his degree. There wasn't any noticeable political cant going on as far as I can tell as its main focus was giving the pupils the best exam results that they could and it worked - my son took five A-levels and two of them were extra options. It was a pretty narrow focus but they did have a very good rugby team and Drama dept and there were opportunities for extra curricular stuff like Duke of Edinburgh awards and NCS. I will qualify that by saying that we live in an achingly middle class town in Sussex so it is in no way representative.

[martyboy]

"The problem i have with teachers is they take there work home with them. What i mean by that is they like to talk down to people, and dont ever question what they are saying. We have one involved in the local football team. and shes always on the touchline lecturing all the adults about what you can say, do, and think. The women's a delusional beast, and hates it when told to shut up. Talks to adults like they are kids!!"

[yngwies Cat]

"My son goes to a decent school, really wanted to go as it's got a decent sports set up Well that's before COVID Now it's an exam factory and just seems to push the kids to do well so it can maintain its ofstead score. Good if your bright but the rest fall by the wayside. He's really fucked off that the football seems to have stopped. Still on the plus side, they really do have some right sorts teaching. Dunno if they are woke or not. I really do look forward to parents evening."

[Hammer and Pickle]

Do they teach anything apart from woke these days? Only asking like.

[BRANDED]

"When I was at school we loved being racist, sexist and violent."

[Council Scum]

"My daughter and step daughter go to the same grammar school. The often come home talking about how awful Tories are, how rich they are and that calling someone a Tory is a genuine put down. If I try to explain that not all people who vote Tory are rich, I get told I'm talking rubbish. We have a marvellous left wing education system."

[Mike Oxsaw]

"I think education started deteriorating (""modernising"" itself) in the late 1960s, when the majority of teachers, by then, had no actual experience of the Second World Way and it's following austerity. I (can still) recall a few days with my younger brother (by 2 years) who was being taught ""new maths"". Both my father and I tried to help him but were firmly told by the school that we should stay out of it as working out a solution ""the old way"" was no longer acceptable. He was distraught, as was I for having what was, a year earlier, a perfectly acceptable solution to his problems, which was now fully off-agenda. I was still able to use that same solution at my school, however. He eventually conquered it but it set him back a whole year in trying to do so. It was equally noticeable with the apprentice intake that followed mine (in 1973) over the next few years - each year appeared less and less prepared for life in the real world."

[Mad Dog]

I'm a teacher in secondary (noy sure ive mentioned it) Being in maths most of the woke / inclusive stuff flies by me. They do the odd inclusive assembly an ld I will say kids are far more tolerant today than they used to be. However it's no shock to me that at the last school I was at where there was a big push on this we had at least 7 trans kids. My current school which is 3 x the size doesn't have any. As Bill mahr pointed out. Its regional.