Hamas attack Israel

[claret on my shirt]

"Or should i say they are attacking to get THEIR land back. Good luck to them. The World will watch and do nothing to help them as they always do, shame on us."

[Hammer I am]

collyrob 2:43 Fri Nov 3 Re: Hamas attack Israel Are you Jewish Fonz Perhaps our Jewish posters should have a star in their poster name? Might help soon of you out

[Leavemyarcelona]

Fonz Spot on

[collyrob]

Are you Jewish Fonz?

[,]

"It is common knowledge that Hamas want no part of a two state settlement. As for the Golda Meir quote it now looks very much part of its time. The hate she refers to is as ever but seeing as Iran, a non Arab state, finances Hamas and other anti Israeli organisations would she now replace the word Arab with Muslim?"

[The Fonz]

"'Hamas’s terrorism is a direct result of the Palestinians having been absolutely left no room for participating in any two-state solution and everything indicates the conditions for terror the state of Israel crests are now going to get much, much worse.' You sure? Let's take a look at Hamas's charter from 1988: Goals of Hamas: The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine.' (Article 6) I could go on but I think you should take a look at the charter yourself H&P instead of sprouting nonsense again - https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp - here is a link but a quick google will bring up loads more. I think the rejection of the two state solution is not because Israel has not left any room for Palestinians to participate in it (like you suggest) but because Hamas and a lot of Palestinians REJECT the notion of any Israeli state in the region. Hence, why the surrounding arab nations attacked them on the day Israel formed. Yes, Israel and in particular this Netanyahu Government has not helped matters, but do not justify terrorists actions because of the failure of a two state solution. This would have happened a long time before if Hamas had the opportunity. Just a few quotes which I think are still as relevant today as it was years ago when Golda Meir first said it: 'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.' 'Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us'"

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Israel’s two-state policies have been a parody of double standards so far. Hamas’s terrorism is a direct result of the Palestinians having been absolutely left no room for participating in any two-state solution and everything indicates the conditions for terror the state of Israel crests are now going to get much, much worse."

[icwhs]

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[collyrob]

"Mr Anon 10:16 Fri Nov 3 Re: Hamas attack Israel The bloke is an absolute idiot, most people just ignore him."

[BRANDED]

There’s some excellent oil and gas reserves down there.

[Mr Anon]

"Nutsin 2:24 Thu Nov 2 Re: Hamas attack Israel Why are you banging on about Hunter Biden, seemingly to yourself, on this thread?"

[Mr Anon]

"Nutsin 2:24 Thu Nov 2 Re: Hamas attack Israel Why are you banging on about Hunter Biden, seemingly to yourself, on this thread?"

[Mike Oxsaw]

"I thought that it was Iran that wanted Israel wiped from the face of the earth, and that they are using the Palestinians/Hamas as their mouthpiece and expendable cannon-fodder"

[The Fonz]

"I would also add that there are still over 200 of their citizens being held by Hamas, including over 30 children. The international community should be putting more pressure on Hamas to surrender and release the hostages then Israel to stop attacking Hamas."

[The Fonz]

Russ If that was true that this has been Israels goal since day one then why did Israel pull out of Gaza in 2005 in an attempt for peace and why have they agreed to a 2 state solution multiple times over the years which the Palistinians rejected? If Israel wanted them wiped off the map then they could do it very quickly given their military strength and constant rockets being fired from Gaza by Hamas. Before this war Israel let palistinians in to Israel to work and they also treated their sick in their hospitals including Hamas family member's... doesn't strike me as a country that wants to wipe them out.

[Russ of the BML]

"I'm not on any side here. But Its very clear. Hamas want Israel wiped off the earth and Israel was Palestine wiped off the face of the earth. People can dress it up as much as they like that Israel are only at war with Hamas but they aren't. They are at war with Palestine and have been since day one. The Oct 7th attacks were horrific. But, in some sick perverse way, it was the catalyst that Israel needed to do what they've wanted to forever. And that is to launch an all out air and land attack on Palestine. And, in Israel's favour, they now have the Western worlds support under the ""Israel must defend itself"" banner. Do people seriously think Israel care that Hamas are holed up in hospitals, schools and residential areas? Course they don't. After what Hamas did on 7th October they couldn't care less. And they will continue on and on. Killing and bombing until they completely crippled Palestine as a country. They will at some point come under severe criticism. There will come a point when the Western leaders will start to criticise their approach. But that's not happened yet because another thing in Israel's favour is that they know western leaders are also afraid of being labelled anti-semetic. So right now. They kind of have a free licence to do what they've wanted to do for a long time without any consequences. Conversations are however starting. And politicians all across the world are being asked ""When is it enough?"" But these conversations are a far cry from Israel who won't hear anything. People argue Hamas went too far on Oct 7th so Israel have the right to go ""too far"". All the while innocent people die while politicians decide how much killing is acceptable. Its just a mess. And sadly I can see many more days and weeks (possibly months) of death and destruction as Israel continue to carry out their ultimate goal."

[collyrob]

"BREAKING: At least 20 killed at school being used as shelter in Gaza, UN says"

[Nutsin]

"So after Hunter threatens his Chinese connections they better pay up or else they send $5 mill to Hunters company, Hunter then transfers $4,00,000 to his account then passes on some of the money to James Biden, Joe’s bro who then had his wife send $40k to Joe. 10% for the big guy. But the Dems are saying it’s a loan ffs! What a fucking joke. We have the smoking gun. We have the link of the money, from where it came (China) all the way to Joe Biden’s bank account. No way you can lie that away. He is going down!"

[Hammer and Pickle]

Now this is just blatant spamming. Do fuck off.

[The Fonz]

If you don't want to get rid of Hamas then you really are Hamas and Pickle.

[The Fonz]

Well that's not what I said is it? Can't argue your points and now making up stuff that I said? Desperate stuff. Very odd behaviour.

[Hammer and Pickle]

No. What you are actually promoting is decades more of organised terror.

[The Fonz]

You are a muppet. I am promoting getting rid of a terrorist organisation.

[Hammer and Pickle]

"No, I don’t like hummus either. And yes, of course you are promoting a policy of genocide."

[The Fonz]

"Hummus and Pickle 7:09 Wed Nov 1 All I asked was a follow up question to what you said/believe, and you couldn't answer it? Yet you clearly hold strong views on the conflict so I am not sure why you cannot go into detail, it's all a bit strange. You are right, I support a genocide for Hamas terrorists and their supporters. Is there something wrong with that? As for Israel committing a genocide on the civilian population of Gaza, the population has grown from 1.1 million in 2000 (5 or so years before Israel pulled out of Gaza) to 2.1 million this year... It's not a genocide. Let's not re-define an emotive word to suit your narrative and Hamas/Iran propaganda. I think this thread needs comments from anyone who cares to contribute, not just the ones that you agree with. It would be a better read though if people contributed and explained what they said instead of getting their nickers in a twist like you did when challenged."

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Seems that Hamas & P is clearly demanding that the ""international community"", whoever that is, does to Israel exactly what Putin is doing to the Ukraine."