Hamas attack Israel

[claret on my shirt]

"Or should i say they are attacking to get THEIR land back. Good luck to them. The World will watch and do nothing to help them as they always do, shame on us."

[Nutsin]

"Crappy The line lies in Hamtramk Michigan. Heavily populated Muslim city in Michigan which Biden must win to hold on to Michigan in the next election. Problem is, the more Biden sucks up to them for their vote the more he upsets the Jew and his vote and donor money. Biden is trying to walk a thin line but looks like all he is doing is turning both sides against him. Which they should seeing as he is complicit in all of this."

[Capitol Man]

"The Fonz 7:12 Mon Nov 6 Re: Hamas attack Israel Point taken and I do agree that Israel is limited in what it can do here - the question really is where does the line lie that the short-term aim of dismantling Hamas simply creates a bigger problem in the long run. Where's the line here between defending itself and going too far. Is it even possible to dismantle Hamas, or are they just creating the next generation of fighters, making Israel a global pariah? From Iran's point of view this attack is doing everything it hoped for. Bibi has got to go for a start - just a question of when."

[eastend joker]

100% Fonz you have absolutely nailed it .

[The Fonz]

"H&P You are right in some aspect, no Jew I have spoken with or know is enjoying this war and everyone wants it to end ASAP. Since the 7 October all have been affected one way or another and all would agree it's a fucking tragedy what has happened. The pictures from Gaza are disturbing and no innocent civilian should have to live like that or in fear of that. Equally the videos and pictures from the 7th October attacks in Israel are probably the most brutal humanity has seen in a very long time. Israel has a right to defend its citizens to ensure that does not happen again. The big question is, how do they do that? Something you and every other person who is critical of Israel and calling for a ceasefire fails to answer. How can they let Hamas continue to exist after what happened? Hamas has said they would do this for years and they finally succeeded. It is very easy for people all over the world to criticise Israel from the safety of their homes when its not them who are under attack. According to the news Gaza has run out of fuel, water, electricity, food etc... but they have't run out of rockets. Plenty of them still being fired into Israel daily. Why should Israeli's have to live under those conditions and why should Palestinians in Gaza have to be represented by Hamas and pay with their blood for their actions? Hamas is the reason this war is happening and for the sake of everyone they need to go. If they released the hostages, stopped firing rockets and actually pursued a proper peace deal then this war would be over. But we know that is not going to happen and its Hamas's responsibility. On a side note, I went to a demonstration yesterday at Parliament Square which was for the kidnapped civilians and the dead. You wouldn't have read or seen it in the news as there was: 0 arrests or public disorders 0 attacks on police or western values 0 racist slurs, songs or hateful signs towards any race/people It was all about peace, a hope that no more innocent lives are lost and that the civilians kidnapped are rescued. England flags and Union Jacks were being waved alongside the Israeli flags and people sung both the Israeli national anthem and God Save the King at the end. Crazy contrast to the pro-Palestinian protests that have taken place so far in London. They do not support or promote peace, as they do not believe that Israel has a right to exist. Until this mentality changes across the world then there will never be peace."

[southwoodford]

"Hammer and Pickle wrote... ""I expect Israel to conduct this anti-terrorist operation in a manner befitting a civilised state, especially with respect to getting the hostages released unharmed."" Good idea - play nice and bribe them to surrender with free bagels for a year. Shall we pass your suggestion on?"

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Hammer and Pickle 5:45 Mon Nov 6 As a self-promoting ""better educated"" poster on this site, how do you suggest Israel go about that task? You have opinions on everything else, so this should be a doddle for you."

[The Fonz]

"Hammer and Pickle 5:45 Mon Nov 6 ""I expect Israel to conduct this anti-terrorist operation in a manner befitting a civilised state, especially with respect to getting the hostages released unharmed."" How should they do that then Chief Rabbi of the UK and USA? What do the Jews round the world say Israel should do? You keep saying the same nonsense but there is no substance. Its like saying I think West Ham should win the league and all other West Ham supporters think that too. Therefore, it should happen. , 5:42 Mon Nov 6 The resentment is already there and has been there since 1948. Also, eradicating Hamas may allow the Palestinian people to put in a responsible leadership who actually care about them which may end the hostility towards Israel and a meaningful peace / two state solution. It would stop the possibility of future kidnappings. As for the existing people who are kidnapped, there is a lot of pressure on the Israeli government to do everything they can to return them. If this is what they think the best solution is then good luck to them. Lee Trundle 5:22 Mon Nov 6 Silly question - those Muslims don't count obviously. Or all of the others that have lost their lives in wars etc."

[Nutsin]

"Come on Coma, We both know what will happen to any Biden thread. And we both know what you’d be posting if Trump was in office right now. Truth is this conflict has a lot to do with Biden and you know it."

[,]

"Au contraire what is most telling is what I pointed out where you seem to insert Biden into every discussion however tenuous the linkage. Why not try debating the point of this thread and follow the trend of it. By all means post up a thread about Biden, see how it goes."

[Nutsin]

"I haven’t mentioned Trump, you’re the only one who continues to bring up his name. You and your kind have been banging on about everything Trump for the last 7 years. Get it right. I’m not surprised that you are now uncomfortable talking about Biden though. It’s quite telling!"

[Lee Trundle]

"Yeah, leave Trump out of this post. Mainly because it reminds me of the good old days when the world was at peace."

[,]

"Well the rest of us seem to be able to leave Biden, Trump too, out of the debate."

[Nutsin]

Not sure how you can leave Biden out of the conflict when Biden wants to fund both sides.

[Nutsin]

Not sure how you can leave Biden out of the conflict when Biden wants to fund both sides.

[,]

"Nutsin, take your Biden bashing onto another thread and leave the rest of us to debate Israel/Hamas in peace."

[,]

"Nutsin, take your Biden bashing onto another thread and leave the rest of us to debate Israel/Hamas in peace."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Council Scum 4:47 Mon Nov 6 I expect Israel to conduct this anti-terrorist operation in a manner befitting a civilised state, especially with respect to getting the hostages released unharmed."

[,]

Israel’s ultimate aim is to eradicate Hamas freeing of Jewish hostages seems to be a by product. The problem is that the way they are going about it will store up huge resentment which does not augur well for the Israelis in the years ahead.

[Nutsin]

Crappy’s in a quandry poor fellow. All these open border policies appear to be biting Biden on the arse now. Turns out the many Muslims are not on board with Biden’s support of America’s greatest ally the Jew and they are definitely not on board in having their kids brainwashed by the school board on homosexuality. Add to that the Biden family are about to be Subpoenaed now that we have the money trail that leads all the way from China to Joes bank account I’d say we’ll be hearing less and less from our dear friend Crappy moving forward. Which is a shame!

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Deny the reality all you like - it’ll just reveal the reactionary fanatic all the more. But the fact is the Jewish diaspora all over the world is generally highly educated, liberal leaning and very critical of the Likud regime both with respect to its conduct now and everything that has taken place since it started usurping power. Especially the majority of Jews in the US and UK."

[Capitol Man]

You seem to be getting more worked up than anybody else bWace boy. Outrage at the outrage.

[Lee Trundle]

Where's all the OUTRAGE from the Bandwagon Crew regarding the 1.7 million refugees that are being kicked out of Pakistan?

[The Fonz]

"zebthecat 3:18 Sun Nov 5 I agree with you. I imagine Israel does not want peace right now until the 200+ hostages are released. Hammer and Pickle 3:23 Mon Nov 6 You really should stop quoting Jews as if you are there spokesperson and saying you have Jewish friends that say x, y and z. You are offering no evidence or substance to these claims, which is a common theme for your posts, and its like saying I have a black friend so I cannot be racist. Moronic. Also, comrade Collyrob has made it clear that their opinions are bias so they must be disregarded even if true... which they are not. It's very you to say that you think hostages bloods are on the hands of anyone but the terrorist scum who kidnapped them. Bravo. I saw Bernie Sanders came out recently and said how can there be a meaningful ceasefire when Hamas are still running Gaza? He has been a massive critic of Israel and even he gets it."

[Mike Oxsaw]

"You forgot the painful and obvious ""educated"" middle class position of ""...but they are all (ALL) just poor, illiterate uneducated 3rd world Arabs. They need (NEED) all the help and support possible"" there. Of course, this is the era of Woke, so they can't actually use those words, but the sentiment is 100% evident. Fucking unbelievable how many self-proclaimed intelligent people get continuously taken in by this. Couple of unpleasant images, bit of supporting narrative and they're fully on-board without an inkling of the reality behind it all."

[Council Scum]

""" However, the reality is Hamas will not release the hostages just because we ask them to. "" Put you expect Israel too, because they've been asked too? You are a complete plank."