Hamas attack Israel

[claret on my shirt]

"Or should i say they are attacking to get THEIR land back. Good luck to them. The World will watch and do nothing to help them as they always do, shame on us."

[Dwight Van Mann]

"Hammer and Pickle 9:16 Tue Apr 16 you need to stay out the halal butchers, son. Bet they don't even sell swan"

[Darlo Debs]

"Solid that is pretty one sided. Iran and Israel.only really became enemies when Ayatollah Khomeni came to.power and decided that Israel should be annihilated, since that time Irsn have been funding proxy groups to constantly attack.israel. As for your antisemitic spewing of a Zionist owned media, it's quite a claim.snd a false one"

[Barty]

Because the bible says the jews will return ti ?çsrael and rule there again Thats what the Israelis believe and why the USA supports them in whatever they do It is a time travelling plan possibly Or you could say they are no better than the Taliban and ISIS.

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Anyone who is capable of having it, son."

[stewie griffin]

"Who is that conversation with, out of interest?"

[Hammer and Pickle]

If their Arab neighbours loath them is it alright for the Israelis to treat them as fair game? It is? And if I say it isn’t why is it alright for you to call me an antisemite?

[stewie griffin]

"Lee Trundle 7:43 Tue Apr 16 Re: Hamas attack Israel So why do you think the likes of Egypt don't take them in, Goldie? the egyptians have a massive fuck off wall to keep them out. They absolutely loathe them. So does everyone else around them. Funny that."

[Kaiser Zoso]

"I quite like the fact Israel are rubbing out Hamas, you live by the sword etc Isn’t that what hamas wanted, to be martyrs? What’s their problem now that someone is coming after them?"

[solidbond]

"Israel chose terrorism as soon as they arrived in Palestine and haven’t stopped, they have systematically attacked Iran for over a decade …. rarely reported by our Zionist owned press.Israel has assassinated Israel scientists,unleashed the stuxnet virus inside Iran, blown up Iranian pipelines and bombed Irans consulate in Damascus.Iran is merely defending Itself and targeted military locations in its response no hospitals ,schools,churches or shopping malls were targeted it was warning and a plea for peace . Obviously Netanyahu won’t see it that way as he is desperate for war for many reasons"

[Lee Trundle]

"So why do you think the likes of Egypt don't take them in, Goldie? Or would you prefer if we went back to talking about your 80's style haircut?"

[frank_booth]

"Yeah, the U.S. darent go after those. They will probably reap the fruits of the new “Greater Israel” that will be created sooner rather than later, though."

[frank_booth]

"Stain, Use the fucking return key once in a while. Again, it’s all propagandist bullshit as to why universities are pro-Israel, is it? Are you American? I see how the narrative being pushed is that American universities are a hotbed of antisemitism and that is the only form of racism that exists on campuses. Like most of The Fonz’s posts, it’s all a lot of shit. It’s like that hick who thought it was some conspiracy that most university students voted Democrat. Maybe it’s because people who have read or book or two can form a coherent thought of their own rather than “Israel good. Muslim bad.” Student Palestinian groups are labelled antisemitic merely by existing. But don’t worry, the U.S. is ready to ban all universities that have pro-Palestinian students and fire the Dean’s (mostly women and or black) that dare to allow diversity. So all will be right soon. And I think you’re cherry picking events to suit your agenda. It’s no secret that Palestinian land was bought up by Zionist Jews, but that’s a little different from selling your land to a neighbour to having a new country created on top of you and then being told to fuck off and find somewhere else to live. If anything, that shows naivety on the Arabs part, thinking they could live alongside different religions. I love how the line “well don’t you think Israel has the right to exist??” is parroted out all the time, when the answer to the question “Do you think Palestine has the right to exist?” in1948 was “I don’t give a shit, now get the fuck out of your land” Ask the same question in 75 years time and the answer will be “What is Palestine?”"

[Council Scum]

Plenty of neighbouring muslim nations with far greater resources.

[frank_booth]

"Council Scum 6:46 Tue Apr 16 Re: Hamas attack Israel ""Now they are Americas chosen people"" Who is going to choose the Palestinians Frank? If someone could access their resources, I’m sure a lot of people. But while Israel controls everything, no one."

[The Human Stain]

"I'd like to address the OP and in particular THEIR LAND. This is such an historical nonsense. I speak as one who joined the Palestine Solidarity Campaign for some years and also an atheist, so not interested in any biblical entitlement nonsense, save where historically corroborated. It is rubbish to suggest that what we now term Israel was ever a Palestinian nation. The fact that it was called Palestine is no help; until 1964 Palestine was a term only associated with Zionists - the Palestine Football Association, the Palestine Electricity Corporation and maybe 1000 other entities were all Zionist. Just grabbing the label doesn't bring national entitlement. It is Free Palestine that is colonialist and would not have got off the ground were it not for international finance - slurs that have been slung at Israel for 70 years. Free Palestine is and always was only about instalment of an Aran empire from Morocco in the west to the Persian border in the east. Hence no objection to when eastern Palestine was handed over to create Jordan in the '20s (formalised in the 40's). The objection was Jews in the region even though the Jewish presence had existed for thousands of years as second class citizens. The descendants of modern Palestinians have been treated terribly - yes by Israel but it had a security excuse (to a degree). But mainly by Arab states who used them as political footballs for their own colonialist aims. In 1973 the wealthy oil states realised they could hold the world to ransom and since then, have been buying up big cities, media and crucially universities. The latter has meant that a pro-Palestine agenda has been pushed by universities to two generations of students who now accept as gospel truth a fabricated agenda. Because land legally purchased in the 1920s from present Arabs or absent Turks does not mean this can be undone because the great grandchildren regret the decision to sell. Because huge tracts of land was uninhabitable as one can see from the millions of 100 year old Eucalyptus trees traditionally planted to dry up swamp, so this was not grazing or habitable area. Because thousands of Arabs were attracted INTO Palestine around Jaffa, Jerusalem and Haifa precisely because of Zionist business activity ( at the time of partition of Palestine into Jordan it was estimated that 25% of the population of eastern Palestine (Jordan) was nomadic). Yes no doubt people were forced from their land and bad things happened (Deir Yassin etc.), (it was war after all). Just as a million Jews (at similar time) were forced out of Algeria, Egypt, Tunisia etc or decades earlier my great grandparents were force to flee Russia/Ukraine. It's bad no doubt but it doesn't give me a right to claim Ukraine. So priority 1. is bringing aid to the starving and preventing a health catastrophe in Gaza. Priority 2 (a very close second) is getting the hostages out. And priority 3 is then a proper debate on what happened historically and exposing the originating lie of Palestinian nationalism. That's not to say a two-state solution is not the practical expedient but any idea that Israel has any moral obligation to return anything other than the West Bank, excluding Jerusalem is fatally flawed."

[Council Scum]

"""Now they are Americas chosen people"" Who is going to choose the Palestinians Frank?"

[Lee Trundle]

"So why do you think the likes of Egypt don't take them in, Goldie? I'd love to get a straight answer from you, unlike the one below. You can even have your usual obsessive antisemite shit mixed in with the answer, if you want."

[frank_booth]

"Mike Oxsaw 4:39 Tue Apr 16 Re: Hamas attack Israel Do you think that it's conceivable that no other Arab/Muslim nation will take the ""victims"" in Gaza because they know that Hamas will tag along and start causing trouble from the sanctuary of their new host nation Ahhh, the old “why won’t nobody take them?” argument. Must be because they’re all bad eggs, right? The same antisemitic argument used against the Jews in WW2. So much so that America refused boatloads of Jewish people because who knows? Now they are Americas chosen people. So well done in keeping old racist tropes alive."

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Do you think that it's conceivable that no other Arab/Muslim nation will take the ""victims"" in Gaza because they know that Hamas will tag along and start causing trouble from the sanctuary of their new host nation? Poland could take them (all) though - they've plenty of space given that they've rebelled against taking ANY refugees (except WHITE Ukrainians) so far."

[Lee Trundle]

"How's those CURTAINS, Goldie?"

[frank_booth]

"Human shields! Human shields! There could be zero human shields and it wouldn’t matter. Israel would still kill every Palestinian they could and probably get away with it as they already do. This stopped being about Hamas a while ago. As proven by the WCK killings and the new war with Iran. Israel just likes to say “Hamas” as that’s the reason they can’t get the hostages back and have to keep killing these human shields. When in reality they could have gotten the hostages back ages ago. They just don’t want them. Nope, the aim now is to keep trying to convince people Israel has never done anything wrong and people just keep attacking them for no reason. Fortunately, the world is starting to wise up after this Iran bullshit."

[frank_booth]

"Human shields! Human shields! There could be zero human shields and it wouldn’t matter. Israel would still kill every Palestinian they could and probably get away with it as they already do. This stopped being about Hamas a while ago. As proven by the WCK killings and the new war with Iran. Israel just likes to say “Hamas” as that’s the reason they can’t get the hostages back and have to keep killing these human shields. When in reality they could have gotten the hostages back ages ago. They just don’t want them. Nope, the aim now is to keep trying to convince people Israel has never done anything wrong and people just keep attacking them for no reason. Fortunately, the world is starting to wise up after this Iran bullshit."

[frank_booth]

"Leavemyarcelona 3:54 Tue Apr 16 Re: Hamas attack Israel Hamas Hamas Hamas. It‚Äôs like listening to brain dead parrots. You sound like Levy or Hotively. What about when Hamas wasn‚Äôt in power, yet the Israelis still treated Palestinians like shit. What about all the Palestinians murdered in the West Bank and the illegal settlements - where there is no Hamas? Yes, Israel should take no prisoners and kill a shit load of people that have been expelled from their land because Jews used to live there at some point in history. The brain washing is just mental. So is the eternal victim mentality. So many of the other genocides you mentioned, our governments weren‚Äôt in part (or in whole in the U.S. case) funding said genocide. They don‚Äôt have their version of the racist Rachel Riley telling me how much of a cսnt I am because, don‚Äôt you know, her people have it so tough. Well, I think in 2024 I‚Äôd rather be Jewish than Muslim in the western world. One group of people seem to be doing far better than the other, but yet I have to see viral videos of Jewish people in London and New York asking me what i hide them when the Nazis take over? With this genocide, I have to look in the newspaper or watch the news everyday which straight up lies to me about what is happening and treats me like I‚Äôm an idiot. And let idiots spout their propaganda to me. If you look at the numbers, Israel is doing just fine, but according to some on here, everyone is antisemitic for not just applauding Israel for trying to wipe out Palestine. And now poor little Israel who is at war with Iran after an unprovoked attack. But don‚Äôt worry, Israel didn‚Äôt attack a consulate. It was a normal building holding every form of terrorist group that only wants to kill Jews. But Israel didn‚Äôt do it, so it doesn‚Äôt matter."

[Hammer and Pickle]

Nothing about that post indicates you are ready to consider what Israel needs to do when Hamas takes civilians as human shields. It’s a good job though you’re only a menace to yourself.

[only1billybonds]

"OK fourpence, what is the alternative for Israel? Hamas have shown that they have no real concern for the welfare of the Palestinian public. Why should Israel desist after what happened on Oct 7th, hamas need to be wiped out."