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Lopetegui (sacked 8.1.2025)
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Lopetegui (sacked 8.1.2025)
I was thoroughly looking forward to the start of this season
Was also prepared that things might take some time and wasn't expecting miracles over night What I didn't expect was a manager who after spending 6 weeks with the total dross he'd been left by Moyes would deem them fit to start in a premier league game And low and behold all of them played absolute shit
We're now 1 game in and none of our new players are any closer to bedding in or learning anything from their new team mates cos they barely spent a second on the pitch, half of them not at all I think it's gonna take somewhere between 6-10 games before we see the team anyone with an ounce of sense would play cos this bloke can't identify shit when he see's it I thought we was handed a miracle at half time when we went in level and low and behold he changed nothing I'm sure people are gonna make excuses for him and say it's too early to judge
But from what I've just seen today, this cսnt is David Moyes in a mission impossible mask
Was also prepared that things might take some time and wasn't expecting miracles over night What I didn't expect was a manager who after spending 6 weeks with the total dross he'd been left by Moyes would deem them fit to start in a premier league game And low and behold all of them played absolute shit
We're now 1 game in and none of our new players are any closer to bedding in or learning anything from their new team mates cos they barely spent a second on the pitch, half of them not at all I think it's gonna take somewhere between 6-10 games before we see the team anyone with an ounce of sense would play cos this bloke can't identify shit when he see's it I thought we was handed a miracle at half time when we went in level and low and behold he changed nothing I'm sure people are gonna make excuses for him and say it's too early to judge
But from what I've just seen today, this cսnt is David Moyes in a mission impossible mask
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Re: Lopetegui
"threesixty - Absolutely, at this fella is desperate to win. Moyes took defeat like a walk in the park, as for BFS he seemed happy to lose. A pair of absolute fucking charlatans."
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"Never mind 10 games before judging him, for some it took 4 minutes being the time it took Villa to get their first! Personally, as disappointing as the Villa result (and line up) was i want to see improvement against Palace and a point at least, Man City is a tough one, under Moyes these games only had 1 outcome, he seemed to surrender them before a ball was kicked so i hope to see something different and we give it a go even though im not expecting a result. Fans can have a short fuse with him bub expect the club, board and owners are more realistic, and 10 games would be a bare minimum to draw any conclusion and see them considering their options if we are looking dire and in the bottom 3, let's hope it doesn't come to that, don't think it will but anything is possible......."
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The refreshing thing is at least he wants to win. Took off his captain and put two strikers on and went 3 at the back for your 1st league game. Moyes would have just folded his arms and made a sub at 85 minutes. Allardyce would have chalked it down to one of his games he’s meant to lose and couldn’t give a fuck either. hopefully he gives it that for every game. Never convinced Moyes was ever bothered about losing. Nothing got to him. Slept like a baby he said when we lost… fuck that.
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FFS Jasinik Are we going to crawl over his every word to have a dig or just let the fucking bloke play a few games before judgement day?
Re: Lopetegui
"Think he is a little bit deluded. But I will gauge it not by what is said but how we play next ... He said. After reflecting on his first game in charge against Aston Villa: ""Maybe in the last match we deserved to win - but that's in the past and I think we have to look forward. We have another big challenge against Crystal Palace, but we believe in ourselves and we have to show our qualities both with and without the ball in a difficult stadium."""
Re: Lopetegui
"Manuel, Could it be that we were regularly playing on sundays last season because of Europe, so press conference was friday. If playing saturday then maybe it's on thursday? Could be something to do with europe."
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"Just seen his soundbites from his presser just now and it's an absolute waste of time, all he said on team news, including Alvarez, and transfers in and out was ''we will have to see'' but said he would like the window close before the season starts. Btw, Moyes did these on Friday's, don't know if there is a reason this has changed, it was Thursday last week too."
Re: Lopetegui
", 3:48 Thu Aug 22 I absolutely hated Pelligrini's time in charge, terrible manager IMO. He was just going through the motions and the football was dire. At the time I had a seven hour round trip to get to a game, so a 9-10 hour day to watch that rubbish was the final straw and I packed in the ST which was one of the best decisions I have made... now pick and choose and much better even though probably spend almost as much on tickets as before (but save on travelling!)"
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- Lee Trundle
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Re: Lopetegui
"10 games before we can criticise anything? I'd wager if we carry on the way we did the first game, the likes of Jaan will still be more of the balanced posters on here 10 games in. I thought his post was extremely balanced, mixing the negatives (which were all laid out bare right in front of your own eyes on Saturday if you wanted evidence) with some positives. That doesn't say to me he immediately went out looking for positives."
Re: Lopetegui
"It’s giddy to say give someone 10 games and to not immediately look for negatives? Ok then. Happy to be on that side of the coin vs the alternative. If it doesn’t work out, so be it, we try someone else."
Re: Lopetegui
We have had a manager who won the EPL with a previous club yet despite that record he could not outdo any of our other managers before or since his stewardship. Lasting just over a season Pelligrini had one complete season for us where he lost more games than he won and we finished with a negative goal difference. Posters can compare stats of previous performance but as Pelligrini has proved when a manager comes to us his previous cannot be taken as much of a guide.
Re: Lopetegui
COYI when you say 'loser' manager does that refer to a manager with a win ratio of almost 57% across his entire career? even if you just take Sevilla it's 53%. Sevilla only lost 21% of games he managed. not bad for a 'loser'.
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Re: Lopetegui
"COYI Relegation unlikely - Betfair is the most grim, and they give us an 8% chance of going down."
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"No one wants the appointment to go wrong. I would love us to have a great season and challenge for the top six whilst playing more attacking and entertaining football. Unfortunately, I can't see that happening as I think Lopetegui is a loser of a manager and 'guru Tim' has made a load of dud signings (Summerville aside). Relegation battle ahead."
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"I've got a West Ham mate in Spain, 55, and it was him who said Lop was very much a 'Spanish Alan Curbishley'. He didn't mean it to be a diss, just saying this is a bloke who gets results but it is not greatly entertaining. He thinks results wise, we'll be good, but don't expect fireworks."
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"""It’s like you and LT are both just waiting for it to go wrong so you can say “I said it was the wrong appointment”."" You're reading something that isn't there. I've never once said it was the wrong appointment. I'm simply not as giddy as you over his appointment."
Re: Lopetegui
"I’m not defensive at all, I just think there is a desire from some people to be proved right. It’s like you and LT are both just waiting for it to go wrong so you can say “I said it was the wrong appointment”. That’s just an opinion on posts from you both since the appointment. Like I say, I just think make that point in 10 games, not after 1."
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Re: Lopetegui
"Ron Eff 12:18 Thu Aug 22 Not at all. Im not judging him after 1 game. Just stating my opinion on him prior to his appointment. He could well find some success here like Moyes did, but my opinion is I very much doubt he’ll be like how many built up expectations of. No need to get defensive. My opinion isn’t going to make a blind bit of difference to how well he does or how long he stays, and will happily praise him as be critical."
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Re: Lopetegui
"""Seems to me like you are just as happy for him to be a failure as you are a success. "" I've no idea how you've got that from Jaan's post."