Russell Brand

[Pentonville]

Dispatches tonight could be about him so he has jumped in first dismissing claims and rumours and saying anything he did in past was consensual. No doubt it will be said that this is The Matrix coming after him due to his opposition to mainstream media.

[Eerie Descent]

"Fritzl, you waffle nonsense, and you piss in your own garden. Stop constantly trying to engage with me, like a lost little puppy, and let people answer for themselves. Dean is Brand's gallery, as he clearly watches every single thing he produces, I barely watch any of his stuff, as I pointed out before. Now go and prepare yourself to fleece a load more vulnerable people in the name of ZEN, you charlatan."

[Hammer and Pickle]

Don’t much care if he’s the next General Franco or Saint Francis of Assisi - all I know is he won’t be doing a piece on the ERG and the populist vs pragmatist split in the Tory party in a hurry. It simply wouldn’t entertain his audience and he knows what side his bread is buttered on - I’ll say that for him and all.

[stewie griffin]

Must admit I'm fascinated by a few posters doubling down on the theory that Brand has become a right wing loon. Might want to get the timeline of events straight in your heads to double check if you're making the point you think you are.

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Is that what you believe dean said he believes about the MSM, Edward? Well, that's lovely for you but please allow me to disagree; also, please take into account that very many won't agree with you, and that includes probably almost 100% who can read but don't have a reactionary agenda and can see dean's view of the MSM is obviously much more nuanced. As for Brand, of course he's fine as an entertainer playing to your gallery, Edward. But have you asked him what he would actually do to tame inflation, or increase domestic labour productivity, or protect services during a pandemic or tackle the current account deficit? Have you even asked yourself? He's a nice rich boy with the gift of the gab, says things you can relate to that make the educated and the responsible uncomfortable and likes a shag and a bit of blow. Good on him I say - but a voice of reason in a scrape he is not."

[Eerie Descent]

"I feel like a proper fool. Reading what Dean Crawford has had to say, I now realise that everything the mainstream media has ever reported on is 100% true, and nothing should ever, ever be questioned. Anyone wanting to debate anything is a complete lunatic. Can we please, please never have a debate into anything what is reported by MSM. You cannot question their facts. Do what you're told, you right wing loonies. Also, when you're told to stay indoors, STAY INDOORS. And clap when we tell you, they'll be round to film it so you can see everyone else clapping on the tele."

[only1billybonds]

Good article in Spiked about presumption and the damage accusation can do. https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/09/17/russell-brand-and-the-crisis-of-scepticism/

[chim chim cha boo]

Mike Oxsaw 6:57 Tue Sep 19 Re: Russell Brand I know we fell out briefly a while ago but I appreciate a clever post when I see it. Welcome on board sir

[Mike Oxsaw]

"What is wrong with asking ""awkward"" questions then asking why nobody will answer them to your satisfaction? And to keep asking until you get to the bottom of it? Is that (sort of) practice limited solely to solving crimes? Do any such questions have to be vetted and approved by some sort of committee/kangaroo court before given media time & space? Do the answers to those questions also have to be so scrutinised to ensure that only the ""acceptable"" opinion is maintained? As has been suggested before, this is not (just) about Brand, it's about people using the virtually unregulated (and almost certainly unregulate-able) social media platforms to promote the raising of such questions. It's like talking about the Holocaust with certain very vocal people: if you dare ask a question about any of it then you're immediately labelled a Holocaust Denier by those who feel it should be accepted as presented without question. If you're already formulating to label me as a Denier for that last paragraph, then you prove my point to the letter. I have no doubt whatsoever that was a true event in history. As for Brand, he's another one I'd (now) label as a ""disrupter"" - he ruffles peoples comfort blankets but doesn't actually steal, or threaten to steal, them. People have already decided that's what will happen though, if he carries on. Other names already raised also have that characteristic and are also demonised by the MSM and it's followers. Take out the promiscuous and hedonistic lifestyle and his delivery and content remind me of George Carlin, who also successfully repositioned himself into appearing anti-establishment and did very well out of doing so. If you're already formulating to label me as a Denier for that last paragraph, then you prove my point to the letter. As for Brand, he's another one I'd (now) label as a ""disrupter"" - he ruffles peoples comfort blankets but doesn't actually steal, or threaten to steal, them. Take out the promiscuous and hedonistic lifestyle and his delivery and content remind me of George Carlin, who also successfully repositioned himself into appearing anti-establishment."

[Capitol Man]

"But they are better than that. They are not sheeple, they are the truth seekers who don’t just follow traditional left and right like the drones being fooled by the MSM."

[Capitol Man]

"But they are better than that. They are not sheeple, they are the truth seekers who don’t just follow traditional left and right like the drones being fooled by the MSM."

[deanjcrawford]

"Rogan is the mainstream. But whatever. You did seem very triggered by me saying that Brand is right wing, yes. I don’t know why that bothers you so much. I also agree that Brand deserves due process. That isn’t in question. I simply mentioned in my first post that he is now a right wing poster boy and several people jumped down my throat telling me he’s not. He most definitely is part of the right wing culture wars. Are you right wing? I don’t know. I don’t really care. But pretending Russell Brand or Joe Rogan don’t pander to a right wing audience is a bit silly."

[Sydney_Iron]

"Dean I'm triggered and a borderline crank? Thanks!!! Must be because i quite like the Rogan podcast, not that i agree with all his beliefs, as i dont with Brand, but they do make you think outside of the MSM narrative on a lot of issues, and they do raise some valid points/questions. As to Brand have said it before, if he has done these things he needs to be held to account, im just not convinced it's always fair especially when it comes to celebrity's and specifically male celebs, just see how the Depp trial started, many had him condemned and it still hangs over him due in part to the MSM pursuit. Does this make me a right or left crank though, this is the question?"

[deanjcrawford]

"Sydney, You sound a little triggered mate. You also sound borderline crank yourself. Shouting at the clouds about the mainstream media and the establishment. Are you saying Donald Trump wasn’t in a position of power? That Gox News, the highest rated news channel in the US isn’t in a position of power? That Joe Rogan, who has the most popular podcast in the world isn’t in a position of power? Rupert Murdoch’s The Sun isn’t in a poison of power? Do me a fucking favour. But the bad old mainstream media, right? But you are correct, Brand, Musk, Rogan all have a large right wing following. Musk himself is not even doing it for the money, he actually is a nut job nowadays. And Jaan, You mean I’ve given a long list of examples why Russell Brand is right wing, but you just choose not to except or even acknowledge. Because of the mainstream media or something? As for his transformation of character, that’s been happening for a few years now, but started when the TV and Film work started drying up and ramped up during covid."

[Sydney_Iron]

"Capitol Man I dont have an issue with anyone being criticized for what they say or believe, or if they don't agree, but far too many take the easy and currently trendy route with it and decide to label people as right/left nut jobs because of it. Nothing to do with outrage they can't be judged, but i expect you knew that? Carry on though :-)"

[Capitol Man]

It’s all so unfair. You spread a load of right wing conspiracy theories on your YouTube channel and people accuse you of being a right wing conspiracy theorist.

[Capitol Man]

How dare people be judged by their actions and words…..

[Sydney_Iron]

"“Russell Brand was very liberal. But since the work dried up, he’s reinvented himself as poster boy for right wing conspiracy theorists” What utter shit you have spouted! Seems anyone with a view not supported by MSM or those in power immediately gets labelled as some kind of right/left crank, not just Brand but Musk and Joe Rogen just to name 2 get this type of response, it’s delusional and playing into the hands of the establishment. LOL"

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

"deanjcrawford 2:33 Tue Sep 19 All you offered was a list of generalised topics you've attributed to him as being right wing for discussing. 'Russell Brand was very liberal.' So when was this transformation of character, before or after the alleged crimes?"

[easthammer]

"I have never really liked the ""Brand"" as portrayed by Russell. His loquacious verbosity failed to impress and I always thought it to be a cover for the lack of substance. A faux intellectual who seemed to work on the premise that bullshit baffles brains, Certainly in hindsight an approach which he had in common with Saville. Not that I think for a moment his behaviour (or misbehaviour) comes close to the predatory evilness of Saville. But I can see why parallels are likely and indeed are already being drawn - ""in plain sight"". The introspective reviews taking place at the BBC and Channel 4 will surely conclude with handwringing apologies for missing the ""bleedin"" obvious while pandering to the winning of ratings and revenue. Having said I don't think much of Brand I do also have doubts about the motives of the women now making the claims with regard to their relationships with him. Why now and why in consort?"

[Capitol Man]

"Yeah he was Debs, but seems to have embraced conspiracy loon stuff more recently. Whether that was genuine conversion or a realisation that others have also come to that there’s money to be had feeding people’s paranoia is another matter."

[deanjcrawford]

"Jaan Kenbrovin 1:28 Tue Sep 19 Re: Russell Brand deanjcrawford 12:54 Tue Sep 19 'You don’t seem to be reading what I’m posting. I’m not mentioning Musk, Tate, Alex Jones etc to provide support that Brand is a rapist. Innocent til proven guilty. I’m using those people to support that he is a part of the right wing.' Exactly, you've used a select few as character defining for his political views, which is bollocks. Mate, I’ve given so many examples in this thread as to why Brand is now a right winger. I could list them all again, but you’ll only ignore them and talk about Hunter Biden some more so I can’t be arsed. And Mad Dog, Russell Brand was very liberal. But since the work dried up, he’s reinvented himself as poster boy for right wing conspiracy theorists. He plays it off with a “I’m just asking questions, think for yourself, wink wink” demeanour, but the American right wing loves him and he buys into that for the cash."

[Darlo Debs]

He was wasn't he?

[Mad Dog]

I always assumed brand was a lefty?

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

"deanjcrawford 12:54 Tue Sep 19 'You don’t seem to be reading what I’m posting. I’m not mentioning Musk, Tate, Alex Jones etc to provide support that Brand is a rapist. Innocent til proven guilty. I’m using those people to support that he is a part of the right wing.' Exactly, you've used a select few as character defining for his political views, which is bollocks. I didn't bring Hunter Biden into it. You did. and have repeatedly made out he is somehow hard done by for political reasoning, whilst attributing people as right wing conspiracy theorist for suggesting Brand could be."

[Darlo Debs]

"Some footage has resurfaced and been doing the rounds of the late Sean Lock's view of Russell Brand. Safe to say he wasn't a fan, saying he'd nit want his daughter to date him."