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Dispatches tonight could be about him so he has jumped in first dismissing claims and rumours and saying anything he did in past was consensual. No doubt it will be said that this is The Matrix coming after him due to his opposition to mainstream media.
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I meant Jeez but Jerez will of course do :)
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Jerez! Any of you saddos thought about getting a life lately?
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West Ham is owned by a Pornographer. What the fuck are you doing here? Do Arms companies get a bit itchy about making stuff that kills loads of people? You have Politicians annex government people who took us into the Iraq war causing all kinds of unbelievable death and disfiguration but appear on podcasts etc all the time.
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"What YouTube has done to Brand has nothing to do with his “customers.” No one buys anything from him. YouTube simply stop running ads on his videos for what amounts to a morality clause. If Brand is convicted of being a nonce, advertisers such as Apple or Hulu don’t want to be associated with a sex pest. Yes, I know it’s the “if” part that’s sending you all into a frenzy, and I actually understand that, but after Harvey Weinstein, companies shit themselves at this sort of thing and try to protect themselves as much as they can. And I know some are going mental over the women’s claims, which I find very ironic. You believe Brand’s bullshit theories with the flimsiest of evidence, but now he’s accused, you all want a plethora of irrefutable proof? It’s now all lies fabricated by channel 4 because because Brand is challenging the mainstream media? What a load of bollocks. People like Joe Rogan and Russell Brand ARE the mainstream. Why don’t you seem to realise that? Just because you think they are fighting the establishment on your behalf, doesn’t mean they aren’t doing it for cash and have a bigger reach than practically all mainstream news channels. You want a conspiracy, how about this? - Brand has been pushing distrust of the mainstream media for years. Low and behold, the bad old mainstream media has reported Brand might be a sex pest but we don’t believe it because Brand has programmed us to not trust the mainstream media. Very convenient. - There’s more evidence of Brand raping a women than there is of his claims about Ukraine or 9/11, because he actually apologised for forcing himself on someone without their consent. But this is being overlooked. - Brand has been pushing his following over to Rumble for months now, promising the unedited and uncensored versions of his videos. Now, Brand will most likely solely post on Rumble after this scandal with millions of new followers - because people lap up an attack on the little guy. Good for him. Good for Rumble. (And Rumble will never censor Brand, because if they did, they’d have to boot off most of their users) - And for all the shit Brand has been getting, there’s still a pocket that is trying to deflect the attention and for some reason blame Katherine Ryan. Who the fuck did she allegedly rape? - And someone said earlier they don’t understand why the media is going after Brand, who was once the most famous person in the world, and not these MPs. Well, maybe it’s the fact that he was once the most famous person in the world! It’s the same reason Brand always bangs on about Joe Biden - name recognition gets clicks."
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"""Google say he has breached them which feels a tad odd to me. "" But exactly WHEN did he breach then - and what was the actual breach? I don't think it's possible that absolutely nobody knew about his activities before this program, so it's from that date (that his activities became, at best public knowledge, at worst an ""open secret"" within the industry), not a few days ago the restrictions should apply - and all and any moneys earned during that time paid back to the customers of Brand and his products. Get yer cheque books out, MSM you could end up being charged with promoting and profiting from the material events that created the breach. That may also stretch to whoever sponsored him at that time,"
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"Murdoch He will take up the role of chairman emeritus of both companies, while his son Lachlan will become sole chairman of News Corp and continue as executive chairman and chief executive of Fox."
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"Well. Cancelling is not a new thing. I guess its as old as the hills. I think with earnings it will be down to contracts as you have pointed out. Re social media, I've heard Jordan Pearson say that apart from his job its never seeped into the real World for him. He never experiences cancellation in the real World. I've seen it attempted once at a conference and the person attempting to do the cancel was roundly fucked off by the rest. I'm guessing they found it a rude awakening. They fucked off quickly. In the case of Brand his gigs have been at least postponed, probably for everybody's benefit. His online stuff will be bound by the contracts and terms. Google say he has breached them which feels a tad odd to me."
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Murdoch stepping down as head of newscorp.
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"well no, Brand0, because i don't agree with cancel culture. What i would say is that his earnings is somewhat more nuanced given that he does it from these internet platforms. So what we've seen over the years is lots of people being 'suspended while a full investigation' takes place, and i wouldn't call that cancelling, sometimes its as much for the accused as anything as it takes them out of the firing line. In football terms, Man City (i think) suspended Mendy without pay, and he's now suing them for £10 million loss of earnings. I hope he wins. For Greenwood, I think Man Utd suspended him, but continued to pay him. While its slightly more difficult on these platforms as presumably its not a regular income - if he's found not guilty following investigation i would expect that YouTube should have to pay him back for lost earnings. So Rumble certainly have it right, for me, on the pay side of things. As for the government, its absurd...but its the reactive, social media-led world we live in... someone there sees an opportunity to appear kind and caring. Nothing more than a bit of positive PR - i don't imagine they actually give a shit about the outcome, even if they convince themselves that they do."
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"I wouldn't be so sure that it's only a few fringe nutcases. There's a fair few posters on here post in a style that they believe that they are so right that there is absolutely no chance that they'd be under any risk of being cancelled themselves. Quite unashamedly call for the cancellation of others (on here) though. That may be a fine stance under the current site administrative practices, but what would happen should cancellation be adopted as a site policy and someone with strongly opposing views to the ""right"" posters buys the site out? Who would get cancelled then?"
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"Are you comfortable with the cancellations of Brand so far Stewie or the governments request to rumble? I know you dont do social media but I dont do church, doesnt mean I judge others who do."
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"well of course, Brand0, which is why no one other than a few fringe nutcases believe in cancel culture"
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"Problem is if you start cancelling people and things and words and ideas, expect it to come to you as well. Because at that point you have legitimised it for those who will have the polar opposite views to you. Its a fucking massive greasy pole."
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times have changed Stewie but my grandparents still recognised nonces and called it out. It was never normal. But if the BBC and other platforms are removing all content then they really have to go back over all of their contact to purify their platforms.
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times have changed Stewie but my grandparents still recognised nonces and called it out. It was never normal. But if the BBC and other platforms are removing all content then they really have to go back over all of their contact to purify their platforms.
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"baldie, fuck off. you're no mate of mine it gets better with this Dame Dinenage cսnt. not just that she's the daughter of ex tv star Fred, but also currently married to an ex commander of the 77th Brigade. hahahahaha"
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"Whatever ANYONE thinks of Brand and his activities/behaviour when he was younger, this has nothing to do with why they are targeting him now. He's basically stopped behaving like a teenage twat, so this ""crusade"" is not about stopping him still being that twat. This tsunami of allegations - ALLEGATIONS - and its bandwagon of believers (whether they have any substance whatsoever or not) are all about stopping him from what he is doing NOW. If he's talking bollocks, why not simply debunk what he claims by providing independently verifiable evidence to prove that he's talking shit? That would be far easier and far more conclusive as there would be no opinions at play - just facts. There are such facts out there, I assume."
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"My daughter's 20 and I hate the idea of any little shit touching her. Her boyfriend is 24, so as I'm prone to sometimes being hypocritical, deep down, I want to pull his head off his shoulders, but on the surface and after deep breaths, I suppose he's alright. I myself lost my viriginity aged 15, to a 16 year old girl, who was my first proper girlfriend from 15 to 18 years old. She was a well balanced girl from a decent middle class family, and she was not a virgin when we got together. She absolutely loved fucking, and we went at it like jack rabits. If she had been able to get hold of her two crushes back then, Tom Cruise and/or Bruce Springsteen, she would have sucked them so hard, their eyeballs would have shot down their throats and out their todgers. Had that happened, and her dad had caught the smarmy scientologist or the Boss in the act, he would have skinned them alive. She would have been thoroughly embarrassed and pissed off, I imagine, but definetely not a naieve victim of any sort."
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"some of those are fairly old, and times have changed... but in general, i agree with your point there - as i said earlier, for me its the lack of consistency that creates problems. As soon as you apply one rule to one thing, and a different rule to something else, any criticism that comes is fully deserved."
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"stewie I think that first claim might well be going down the toilet soon. Lots more to the story that revealed on the dispatches show. Hence the big push on the 16 year old. And yes there are big questions to answer over how we as a society view men , and women in the 30s and above having relationships with teenagers. Tom Daley (19) - Dustin Black (38) - celebrated! Aaron Taylor (18) - Sam Johnson (42) - celebrated! Amanda De Cadenet (16) - John Taylor (31) Priscilla Presley (14) - Elvis (24) - celebrated Mandy Smith (13) - Bill Whyman (47) - celebrated! Shirley Ann Milburn (15) - John Peel (25) - celebrated! Lori Mattix (15) - David Bowie (25) - celebrated! The list goes on and on and on and on and on and on That doesn’t mean Brand is right. It’s gross. But it does mean that the media that sets such high standards in their own minds has clear double standards."
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Takashi Miike 2:35 Thu Sep 21 Oh he's out of ideas already. Almost as if you're an uneducated cսnt - the exact type of person that IS guaranteed to be manipulated if any such manipulation is really going on. You're a fucking mess mate.
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"PwoperNaughtyButNot You don’t think the whole rape thing with the trauma center and the apologetic texts afterwards would be it. Let’s face it, seems like a lot of people knew Brand was a wrongun and they spent years putting together enough of a case to not get sued when they outed it. But then we have the anti-woke crowd riding to his rescue despite liking to use many examples of people in the media getting away with stuff very like this for years as a way of tearing down the bbc and the media in general. But it certainly can’t be because he’s been producing content that they like for the past few years. He’s really a lefty so this is all about the meeja and the corrupt establishment."
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"PwoperNaughtyButNot 2:33 Thu Sep 21 Someone mentioned this earlier on here, but the press were swooning over teenager Tom Daly getting it on with a man 20 years his senior not so long ago."
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Tak. Reply sent.
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"probably better assume to that the biggest thing they have to go on is the accusation of rape, where the alleged victim went to a rape crisis centre the following day and has been able to provide historical medical records & therapy notes doesn't mean he's guilty of course, but probably better to start there than elsewhere in order to prove some extraneous and tenuously linked point regardless of all of which, if he is proven to be guilty, then yes - the BBC, C4, the Guardian, the New Statesman, Prospect, the Labour party and various others, will have massive questions to answer about their role in enabling his behaviour."
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