The war in Ukraine

[Barty]

"I miss the ""is putin about to make a big mistake"" thread"

[Hammer and Pickle]

"It makes not a whit of difference who gave assurances about what - the linked text reveals itself as disinformation when it talks about former Iron Curtain countries like the Baltics or Poland being “invited” to join NATO. The fact is, they were allowed to apply after passing objective requirements and then eventually their applications were accepted by ALL members when they met further standards. This is because NATO is a TREATY ORGANISATION FOR MUTUAL DEFENCE OF SOVEREIGN NATION STATES. It is there for no threat for anyone who does not have aggressive intent towards those members. And even a political semi-literate knows this perfectly well."

[Nutsin]

Here you go Pickle. https://natowatch.org/newsbriefs/2018/how-gorbachev-was-misled-over-assurances-against-nato-expansion

[Nutsin]

Here you go Pickle. https://natowatch.org/newsbriefs/2018/how-gorbachev-was-misled-over-assurances-against-nato-expansion

[Nutsin]

Here you go Pickle. https://natowatch.org/newsbriefs/2018/how-gorbachev-was-misled-over-assurances-against-nato-expansion

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Oh good grief - this is a football club’s fans’ forum, not a convention for political imbeciles and moral cripples. The claim Gorbachev could have been promised any such thing in any binding manner reveal total lack of understanding of what NATO is as a treaty organisation of sovereign states. And of course Amnesty International is perfectly aware of the context that the combatants in question were the Ukrainian state on the one hand and a band of Kremlin sponsored KGB thugs on the other. It’s the fucking AI’s job to call for restraint and the observation of law from all sides and it was certainly not interested in any kind of demonisation of Ukraine in that so oft-tediously misquoted statement."

[Nutsin]

Northern Sold For someone who proclaims to hate politics and political threads you spend a lot of time posting on them. You fucking two faced thick cսnt! Just wanted to point out what an absolute hypocrit and retard you are. That is all! Oh and NATO moving East is what triggered this mess. If the West had stuck to their promises made to Gorbachev Ukrainians wouldn‚Äôt be at war.

[Nutsin]

Northern Sold For someone who proclaims to hate politics and political threads you spend a lot of time posting on them. You fucking two faced thick cսnt! Just wanted to point out what an absolute hypocrit and retard you are. That is all! Oh and NATO moving East is what triggered this mess. If the West had stuck to their promises made to Gorbachev Ukrainians wouldnt be at war.

[Lee Trundle]

"Hamas & Pickled What am I meant to be lying about here? Cheezey (incorrectly) said there was ""no problems between Russian and Ukrainian speakers"". There was. I've given proof from Amnesty International of that. I think Sold0 went on a whataboutary mission to deflect that but unintentionally proved Amnesty International is a repeatable site by brining up all the bad shit Russia has done (which you won't find me disagreeing with). Trash Russia as much as you like. You're completely wasting your time with your whataboutisms with me, though. ""Fucking have a day off."" We've already established your support for Ukraine stops if I do. Why continue to repeat yourself? Is the booze affecting your memory now?"

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Stop lying, you barely sentient talking ape. The only posters making such a simplistic case are trollspammers like you when you falsely accuse us normal people of talking about “good guys”. The Kremlin is a terrorist state in terms of international law and as serious a geopolitical threat as any since the Soviet Union collapsed. That is what will decide on whether Ukraine gets what it needs to fight this war for us, not whether some morally debauched oaf thinks they are “good”, “bad” or “not so good” Fucking have a day off."

[Lee Trundle]

"Put down the Russian's as much as you like. But, you're widely missing the point Sold. I'm not cheering for Russia. I don't know anyone who has. It's the binary way you, and the rentamob, think though. You HAVE to choose a side. All I'm saying, is that the guys you're cheering on, aren't the good guys you, and the likes of Cheezey, reckon they are. For some reason you find that difficult to swallow."

[Hammer and Pickle]

Go on Cheezey - he’s yours son!

[Northern Sold]

"Amnesty International ""Russia is breaching the sovereignty of Ukraine & challenging the global security architecture"". Agn?®s Callamard, Secretary General of Amnesty International Amnesty International ""Russia‚Äôs aggression against Ukraine Russia continues to commit war crimes on Ukrainian soil"" https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/03/latest-news-on-russias-war-on-ukraine/ Amnesty International Ukraine/Russia: Children‚Äôs futures under attack as Russian aggression in Ukraine continues to restrict schooling https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/12/ukraine-russia-childrens-futures-under-attack-as-russian-aggression-in-ukraine-continues-to-restrict-schooling/ Amnesty International ""The full-scale invasion has triggered a huge human rights, humanitarian, & displacement crisis that has the makings of the worst such catastrophe in recent European history"". Agn?®s Callamard, Secretary General, Amnesty International https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/03/latest-news-on-russias-war-on-ukraine/ Amnesty International ""The people of Ukraine have suffered unimaginable horror during this war of aggression over the last 12 months. Let us be clear: the hands of Vladimir Putin and his armed forces are stained with blood. Survivors deserve justice and reparations for all they have endured"". Agn?®s Callamard, Secretary General of Amnesty International https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/03/latest-news-on-russias-war-on-ukraine/#russia%E2%80%99saggressionagainstukraine Well makes pretty shit reading for your `Good Guys' Trunds son.... oh same place... Amnesty International... then again I suppose perhaps we should believe a few random blokes on the Internet over them?? Is that how it works?? Not sure anymore..."

[Northern Sold]

"Amnesty International ""Russia is breaching the sovereignty of Ukraine & challenging the global security architecture"". Agn?®s Callamard, Secretary General of Amnesty International Amnesty International ""Russia‚Äôs aggression against Ukraine Russia continues to commit war crimes on Ukrainian soil"" https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/03/latest-news-on-russias-war-on-ukraine/ Amnesty International Ukraine/Russia: Children‚Äôs futures under attack as Russian aggression in Ukraine continues to restrict schooling https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/12/ukraine-russia-childrens-futures-under-attack-as-russian-aggression-in-ukraine-continues-to-restrict-schooling/ Amnesty International ""The full-scale invasion has triggered a huge human rights, humanitarian, & displacement crisis that has the makings of the worst such catastrophe in recent European history"". Agn?®s Callamard, Secretary General, Amnesty International https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/03/latest-news-on-russias-war-on-ukraine/ Amnesty International ""The people of Ukraine have suffered unimaginable horror during this war of aggression over the last 12 months. Let us be clear: the hands of Vladimir Putin and his armed forces are stained with blood. Survivors deserve justice and reparations for all they have endured"". Agn?®s Callamard, Secretary General of Amnesty International https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/03/latest-news-on-russias-war-on-ukraine/#russia%E2%80%99saggressionagainstukraine Well makes pretty shit reading for your `Good Guys' Trunds son.... oh same place... Amnesty International... then again I suppose perhaps we should believe a few random blokes on the Internet over them?? Is that how it works?? Not sure anymore..."

[Lee Trundle]

"Cheezey Bell-End 3:17 Thu Dec 14 ""The only reason there has been any need for a peace deal of any kind is because of Putin's wars of conquest. Before that, the borders were established and recognised. There was no problems between Russian and Ukrainian speakers"" haha yeah, righto. Who to believe? Some random bloke on the internet who's cheering on his ""good guys"", or someone like Amnesty International? https://www.refworld.org/docid/54f07d847.html Have a read of that, Cheesey. I'll warn you though, it doesn't make the ""good guys"" as clean and squeaky as you want them to be."

[Hammer and Pickle]

Good - the other trollspam thread has been locked. I'd rather just have to deal with you pricks on here.

[Cheezey Bell-End]

"Don Ravioli 11:21 Wed Dec 13 Re: The war in Ukraine , As much as was agreed in the peace deal at the start of this shit. The only reason there has been any need for a peace deal of any kind is because of Putin's wars of conquest. Before that, the borders were established and recognised. There was no problems between Russian and Ukrainian speakers. None of this fiction about Ukraine being run by nazis. But that didn't suit Putin. After his spell as PM, he retook the presidency with visions of a Russia restored to imperial greatness with him as the new czar. Ukraine and Georgia have born the brunt of it. If he gets his way in Ukraine, Moldova will be next. So no. No peace deals that give the tyrant anything. That lesson was learnt in the 30s."

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Even Prince Andrew would have winced at that.

[riosleftsock]

"Jaan Somebody will start a ""biden Impeachment inquiry"" thread which will be entertaining and run to ten thousand posts until lefty no fun northbank shuts it down and we will all forget about Ukraine for a bit. Meanwhile Hunter Biden gave a superb press conference earlier, which was an absolute masterpiece in US intelligence. Try to find it, its fucking brilliant."

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

"Blimey. Looks possible there will be no financial aid being passed in the US or EU, with Hungary blocking the EU funding."

[riosleftsock]

Nurse Ratched made us do it. We are all Nurse Ratched now.

[Hammer and Pickle]

So you’re a Kremlin troll spreading Kremlin bullshit on a West Ham football fans’ site. What do you get out of it?

[Don Ravioli]

", As much as was agreed in the peace deal at the start of this shit. The Russian speaking areas were granted some level of autonomy and were promised there would be no aggression from neo nazi units in Ukraine and Ukraine would not join NATO. Think of all the sons and fathers that would still be going home to their families every night Sending more money over there to keep innocent men on both sides dying is wrong. Get round the table and talk. This war is done for Ukraine. When the people that are left realise they’ve been sold up a globalist shit creek without a paddle Zelensky should make sure he’s far away in one of his nice new beach front mansions otherwise they’ll hang him from a lamp post. Always the innocent normal people dying due to corrupt politicians."

[Hammer and Pickle]

Aren’t you concerned your man in the Kremlin is not changing tack given he’s been losing eight men to one on the front for months? You are not?

[Hammer and Pickle]

Aren’t you concerned your man in the Kremlin is not changing tack given he’s been losing eight men to one on the front for months? You are not?

[Dwight Van Mann]

Pickle is basically a Polish Putin