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The war in Ukraine

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"I miss the ""is putin about to make a big mistake"" thread"
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"Capitol Man 12:48 Sun Feb 25 Did you even open the articles? The dates of the quotes from Zelensky stating his desire to end the war diplomatically after Bucha, is proof it wasn't Bucha that ended them. Boris was open about his lack of support for a peace deal. He was always pro war. So is Biden. Seeing as Ukraine rely on their funding and want to join NATO, it's not difficult to see the insentive for Zelensky to change his stance. I'm not sure why you're arguing against it, as you are pro war and don't want peace either, and brag about how much money it's making the US weapons manufacturers, whilst calling anyone that wants a peaceful resolution scum appeasers."
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"That's one crime Trump hasn't been convicted of yet, I'll give you that."
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"Captiol I struggle with lots of things in today's world, but as far as I can recall, Rape is a criminal offence that Trump has never been convicted of, perhaps you could correct me on this?"
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Of course Trump is a rapist.
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riosleftsock 12:59 Sun Feb 25 Re: The war in Ukraine Bovine - you continue to struggle with the standards of evidence in a courtroom and what you read online. You have zero clue as to the difference do you.
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"You forget that Ukraine had secretly put Boris Johnson in charge of everything. He was struggling to control the Tory party at the time, but was apparently supreme commander of NATO, the EU, America and Ukraine instead As they fought for their existence they apparently deferred all decision-making to Boris. Slops - does that that all sound at least bit fishy to you? I can firmly believe that Boris to;d them you can’t trust the Rooskies but it’s something else altogether to think he could force them to reject a peace deal."
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Is Trump a rapist? Or is that more MSM propaganda bollocks that you have swallowed and continue to regurgitate?
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Is Trump a rapist? Or is that more MSM propaganda bollocks that you have swallowed and continue to regurgitate?
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Funny Cappy you came on here blurting out what a wonderful job old Joe was doing and you have now admitted you‚Äôre not a fan. What a silly cսnt!
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Nothing in that link supports your claim Zelensky was ready to accept the Kremlin’s peace terms in April 2022. You’re so crap at this SBT 3. Maybe you’re just trying to bore us into giving you some slack?
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"Ah, now we get to it - you don’t understand what “proof” actually is. You have one account set against a range of actual evidence. Even if Boris was strongly against trusting russia (oh the irony) does not mean he had the power to kill the deal. And there’s other stuff that actually happened. Even if you accept Boris didn’t trust the deal it was one,single element, set against Russia lying consistently, ignoring previous deals and then slaughtering Ukrainian people. You always get mugged off by this stuff and yet are incapable of processing that - why is that slops?"
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Gimps - I know you[re not a good reader but I’ve never been a Biden fan - too old for a start. But when presented with a binary (that means only two options gimpy) choice between a rational but elderly and uninspiring Biden and a freak show Rapist who wants to end democracy it’s not a difficult decision.
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CM - I gave you proof it wasn't Bucha that stopped negotiations. They continued and were at the point when Zelensky was about to get his wish to meet him in person. A meeting he was still openly calling for in late April. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/23/ukraine-russia-war-zelenskyy-calls-for-putin-meeting
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And what’s also fucking depressing is how seamlessly the looney toons crap seems to cross the Atlantic.
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Oh look Cappy is no longer a huge fan of Biden lol. Is that his way of admitting what the rest of us already know? Cappy is having a moment of clarity ffs! Took him long enough! Biden is a train wreck just admit it already!
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"You know Putin pushed that talking point in his “interview” with Tucker Carlson. There were some suggestions that apparently the all-powerful Johnson killed it, but many more that say there were no signs of Russia holding up their end, that it involved Zelensky stepping down, and the the war crimes at Bucha came to light. This is why so any of you here are such a joke. There does need to be better alternatives in US politics but you hysterical little twats just epitomize the sheer mess that is right wing politics. There’s Talk of how deeply unpleasant Biden is while ignoring the fact that Trump is literally a rapist on the other ticket. We have claims that Biden’s run an open border, but then the gop block a deal to give powers to partially slow things and make excuses, there’s bovines usual endless stream of bullshit, sloppy repeating Putin’s talking points and gimpy and his feelings that lefties are bad. Then we have Dwight and whatever the fuck that freak show is babbling on about. Not one fucking coherent idea between them. As I’ve said I’m not a huge fan of Biden, but the alternative is a fucking nightmare."
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Blah blah blab blah blah. Just answer the basic question about how the GOP intends to take responsibility of the economy.
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"There is no debating Cappy or any Dems on that matter because they all flat out lie. They tell you the border is secure when everyone knows it’s not. They tell you inflation is coming down when food prices, gasoline prices, housing prices all continue to go up….. Have you seen the increase in car insurance premiums ffs! Mine doubled and I have a clean driving record. We have a huge problem with debt both at Gov’t level and at Consumer level. Joe has no ideas on how to fix anything….. The economy, inflation and your standard of living were much better under Trump. Ih and the border was secure too. As soon as Biden took office he unraveled Trumps border security measures and attacked the oil industries in the US. Shut down keystone pipeline but gave his approval for Russias new pipeline into Europe. Biden is a disaster….. all that free money to Iran that he and Obama handed over is being used to fund all the militia groups that are attacking US troops and Warships in the region. What does Joe do? He starts bombing people again…. What a fucking mess!"
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"Boris told Ukraine to not ""sign anything"" with Russia and ""just fight."" https://www.newsweek.com/russia-offered-end-war-if-ukraine-dropped-nato-bid-kyiv-official-1847373#:~:text=According%20to%20Arakhamia%2C%20however%2C%20there,its%20bid%20to%20join%20NATO."
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"The lie about the Johnson trip to Kiev is just a repeated lie every time you tell it. And of course, getting a load of people to repeat it to express their resentment just makes it a toxic lie. Problem is, once you start telling lies about how you are going to make the poor and resentful well-off and content again, you are going to have to be ready to answer some basic questions. So how are you going to make low paid jobs into well-paid ones by restricting the labour market’s access to migrant labour, which seems to be the GOP main cunning plan?"
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"See this is why you continually make a hysterical show of yourself Karen. You just stamp your feet and throw around insults, largely about cocks. Your response to my post about the $7.5tr of government bonds that mature before year end was GDP growth The stock market Inflation coming down The latter is happening but is happening in most western economies. The US was at the front of the curve so was always going to lead the way down the other side of the curve. Everything I posted about debts and the market is fact. Everything you post is a hysterical response punctuation with your fixation on cock."
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"Bucha? Another western media made up story, none of the facts add up. Johnson was despatched by the DNC to tell Elenskiy that if he signed an agreement with Moscow, not only would Ukraine receive zero aid from Uk or US but the UK and US would not sign any security guarantees."
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"Capitol Man 11:31 Sat Feb 24 The peace negotiations continued after that. Responding to a question from the BBC on whether it was still possible to talk peace with Russia, Mr Zelensky said: ""Yes, because Ukraine must have peace. We are in Europe in the 21st Century. We will continue efforts diplomatically and militarily."" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60987350.amp"
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"So why is the GOP pulling out all the stops to scupper this cunning plan to earn off the war by blocking the Ukraine support package, SBT 3? Problem is, it all sounds great in your furry, pointy dome but as soon as it has to face reality and basic logic, it just turns into bullshit like some kind of fucked up nosferatu in the sunlight."
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FOMB - chicken little is back on economics after making a complete knob end of himself. Not sure it’s worth trying to talk to a hysterical teenager like yourself. Is the sky falling again?
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