The war in Ukraine

[Barty]

"I miss the ""is putin about to make a big mistake"" thread"

[goose]

Do you think there’s balance to your posts? Having a different perspective is nothing to do with propaganda.

[Capitol Man]

"You can pick up the themes here - some examples Ukraine resistance is futile - you're wasting your money supporting them. The west started all this and was threatening Russia. Putin is just defending himself. Supporting Ukraine is costing you money, do you really care about Ukraine. And the ever entertaining and contradictory - Russia is not threat to the west / Putin is crazy and will nuke you all if you resist. There's others there, but they're really not difficult to spot."

[Capitol Man]

"FFS CL - if you had half a fucking brain you'd be dangerous. Selectively quoting from the western news anything that you think could portray the Ukrainee war effort as weak or pointless or failing is taking it to the next level. Not only was slops carrying the message, he was cherry picking news stories that fit the Russian narrative, and doing it willingly - though he probably is just repeating what was sent to him. Finding stuff from apparently credible sources that support a narrative is going to be a central part of all this...... look, even the Washington Post says Ukraine is failing. If you look at this stuff in context or in balance it would be one thing, but Bovine, slops and often you don't do that do you - there's zero balance to your posts. You seem to think your posts exist in isolation rather than having a posting history of plastering this stuff all over this thread and others."

[goose]

"Most articles posted up are from sky, CNN, Reuters, BBC etc etc. Are you saying they’re all in on it as well?"

[Capitol Man]

"Yeah, I must be fucking crazy to suggest that modern disinformation attacks and propaganda campaigns rely on mugs spreading the messages across social media and the internet - that's fucking looney toons."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Don’t worry Council Scum; alone you are utterly irrelevant and can be as useless, selfish and irresponsible as you like. Nobody gives a monkey’s. On here, together with the rest of your like, you’re just a sad indicator of the influence the Kremlin has. It’s only when that gets strong enough in the public sphere to cause entire political parties to become instruments of Kremlin policy that you become a serious threat; like, for example, preventing the supply of the means for Ukraine to defend itself or the weakening of international cohesion between peaceful neighbour states in economic and political organisations like the EU. Is this all too complicated for you? Never mind, just focus on being a nobody and you’ll be alright."

[Capitol Man]

"Ag ag ag CL - you've not given a single coherent answer, rather like this post you've whined and bleated and called me Karen (great stuff). And this, this is another one, portraying the support for Ukraine as being statically significant in terms of making an economic judgment. Most of the money provided even gets spent with the countries domestic arms producers in the end. As for energy prices, they are down to or below pre-war figures."

[Dwight Van Mann]

Capitol Man 7:42 Tue Mar 12 you are not the full ticket

[goose]

As ever Karen has no argument and just gets all shouty. I’ve answered your points about twenty times but you’ve never had the brain cells to form a coherent argument. Average people are suffering financially and would rather their governments helped them out and not Ukraine. You can stamp your foot and shout all you want but that’s the reality of it.

[Side of Ham]

Does Capitol think this site is a WHOllywood blockbuster?

[Capitol Man]

goose 7:42 Tue Mar 12 Re: The war in Ukraine Given the shit you talk chicken little it's hardly surprising that the point whistled 50k ft above your head. How is that imminent US economy collapse prediction of yours work out - what about those sustained high energy prices?

[Capitol Man]

Council Scum 7:38 Tue Mar 12 Re: The war in Ukraine Is it a tough concept to understand that we are talking collectively rather than individually? Struggle for you to grasp or did you just want to make a cսnt of yourself for the sake of it?

[goose]

"""The Trump/Right wing twat block on American military aid is stopping the delivery of more shell and air defense missiles letting Russia to get an upper hand."" they were about to approve the additional aide until someone read something on a ""soccer forum"" that appears to only have 20 posters."

[Capitol Man]

"Russia has basically been able to lob 3,4, 5 times the amount of shells into battles and it's starting to tell. The Russian propaganda campaign in conjunction with the Trump team is directly responsible for the growing Russian advantages here. Bovine and slops and millions of other little worms carrying the Putin propaganda and disinformation narratives around the world are vital cogs in Russia's plan - individually insignificant but when multipled it's clearly having the desired effect."

[Council Scum]

"You clearly don't know how much sway WHO has Mike. We won Trump the election as well, Russia took the fall for us."

[Capitol Man]

"Specifically in this instance - the improvement in the Russia position appears to be directly related to the Ukrainian need to ration artillery shells, and the Russian ability to deploy more air power. The Trump/Right wing twat block on American military aid is stopping the delivery of more shell and air defense missiles letting Russia to get an upper hand. You must be proud to know your support is helping Putin."

[Mike Oxsaw]

How does the interpreted apparent lack of support for the Ukraine here on WHO enhance Putin's chance of victory?

[Mike Oxsaw]

How does the interpreted apparent lack of support for the Ukraine here on WHO enhance Putin's chance of victory?

[Capitol Man]

"Jaan Kenbrovin 4:28 Tue Mar 12 Re: The war in Ukraine Well not if NATO and the West remain united in opposition and support in terms of arming Ukraine. That's why useful idiots like you, Bovine and the other slugs are so valuable to Putin. To win Putin needs to undermine support for Ukraine in the West and every time you and Bovine and others do that you are doing you bit for Putin's war effort. Your comical blindness and stupidity in doing this is no excuse."

[Northern Sold]

"Council Scum.... ahhhh but I think you will find that the Putin brigade on here will tell you that the 17,000 Spetsnaz troops are busy sharpening their spades in reserve whilst Putin unleashes his elite Chechen TikTok brigade and the hordes of second rate wannabe Gurkhas who have been duped into fighting for the Ivan's in order to get a Russian passport.... FODDER"

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Up until 2014, the nature of the Kremlin threat to Ukraine wasn’t primarily military either. It was all about keeping the country as weak and prone to control as possible by supporting a corrupt, incompetent and above all dependent elite. That was until Ukrainian civil society proved too strong and the only option was to arm its separatist agents inside the country and support them by direct military means. The Kremlin will continue this strategy with NATO countries using its political, social and moral instruments until it is clear they are too weak and internally divided to defend themselves. None of this is any kind of revelation that should come as a surprise to anyone on here by now."

[Mike Oxsaw]

"But, it IS Tuesday, so we'll all get schooled on this soon."

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

So not much of a threat to Europe then.

[Council Scum]

"I recall when the war broke out and all the social media experts were saying you didn't fuck with Russia as they had 17,000 Spetsnaz and they were the equivalent of our SAS. That they'd go through Ukraine and us easily. I pointed out then the Spetsnaz were a myth as was the brilliance of The Red Army. As it has proved to be."

[joyo]

"Well they could easily with Moldova, but NATO would smash Russia in less than a week"