The war in Ukraine

[Barty]

"I miss the ""is putin about to make a big mistake"" thread"

[Nutsin]

And yet another higher than expected Inflation print came out today…. Which has pushed treasury yields higher…..Has anyone seen Biden’s proposed budget?

[Hammer and Pickle]

Don’t need a Sociology degree to notice Yanukovitch legged it to Moscow rather than the Donbas. Nor how the rest of the country that was not occupied by the so-called “separatist” Kremlin thugs behaves when facing the “special military operation” conducted on their behalf. All you need is any interest in the real world. You have neither.

[Lee Trundle]

"Interesting you view the research from the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology as Kremlin bollocks. And you're so proud of your sociology qualification, aren't you?"

[Hammer and Pickle]

"There is no doubt that Yanukovitch, the Kremlin puppet, was still popular in his Donbas power-base and other ethnic Russian eastern areas of Ukraine in 2014. And there is no doubt that the Kiev Majdan revolution that saw him turning tail back to Moscow was a nationwide movement in favour of the country leaving the Russian Federation orbit in favour of eventually joining the EU and NATO. If you at all interested in the real situation in Ukraine and want to comment on it with any semblance of credibility, you need to take both these facts on board. And there’s absolutely no sign of you doing that since you last posted that out-of-context Kremlin bollocks, which makes you the bore. Hands down."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"There is no doubt that Yanukovitch, the Kremlin puppet, was still popular in his Donbas power-base and other ethnic Russian eastern areas of Ukraine in 2014. And there is no doubt that the Kiev Majdan revolution that saw him turning tail back to Moscow was a nationwide movement in favour of the country leaving the Russian Federation orbit in favour of eventually joining the EU and NATO. If you at all interested in the real situation in Ukraine and want to comment on it with any semblance of credibility, you need to take both these facts on board. And there’s absolutely no sign of you doing that since you last posted that out-of-context Kremlin bollocks, which makes you the bore. Hands down."

[Lee Trundle]

"Judging by your recent posting history, you've probably posted on this thread double the amount of times you've posted on all the other threads on here put together. Yet I'm the bore for 1 post basically taking the piss out of you."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"My word you are a bore, Twundle."

[Lee Trundle]

"Perhaps he was talking about these polls, which were undertaken by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology (who are not ""Putin's people"")? https://dif.org.ua/en/article/opinions-and-views-of-the-citizens-of-southern-and-eastern-regions-of-ukraine-april-2014 I'll warn you though, it didn't fit with your narrative. But it will tell you the feelings of the people living there. They felt more Russian and wanted to be Russian compared to being Ukrainians. It will also set Hamas & Pickled off on a drunken rambling of nothingness which is always amusing, because as you can see from those polls, they hated and rejected the EU as well."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Been outwitted by another CIA pie this morning, Fat Ron? You really need to try to keep your wits about you because even the microwave is out to get you."

[Kaiser Zoso]

"2014 was when the legitimate government was overthrown by CIA funded Nazis, who then started shelling Eastern regions, knob end."

[Cheezey Bell-End]

"You mean the referendums conducted by Putin's people, under a degree of duress, after the 2014 invasion? Or the one held in 1991 where all regions of Ukraine voted by a majority to leave the USSR, which was recognised internationally, including by the remaining USSR and later by Putin himself? I don't believe that even you are so gullible as to believe the 2014 referendums were free and fair."

[riosleftsock]

"""even the Russian-speaking parts of Ukraine don’t want to be part of Putin’s fascist empire."" Apart from the oblasts that voted in referenda to become part of the Russian federation? I'm sure you will squeal about dodgy elections and as a DNC supporter you will be familiar with these. You still didn't explain why Cookie Nuland 'retired'?"

[Dwight Van Mann]

Hammer and Pickle 9:09 Wed Mar 13 Blame Frau Merkel for that

[Mike Oxsaw]

"""And the biggest own goal was enabling the Kremlin kleptocracy by buying its planet-killing fossil fuels in the first place."" Which the EU and it's mainland European constituent states were gagging to do at every chance available. Thinkin' strategically long term's a fuckin' bastard, innit?"

[Hammer and Pickle]

And the biggest own goal was enabling the Kremlin kleptocracy by buying its planet-killing fossil fuels in the first place.

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

‘the flow of cheap Russian gas ended when Russia invaded and started slaughtering people. That doesn’t change until Putin goes and Russia goes back to its own country’ Even with a peace deal and regime change it’s unlikely to ever return to the past. Russia is selling to China and have increased GDP. Saudi’s have replaced Russia for Europe. Now both are reducing production which will only cost the west further. Sanctions and weaponising the petrodollar has been a massive own goal. As was blowing up the nord stream pipeline.

[Nutsin]

"Another bad print on inflation today.Yep,Up again, that’s two consecutive prints in a row so not a fluke however not a trend yet….. Can’t see rates getting cut any time soon and can’t see any more meaningful us taxpayer money heading to Ukraine any time soon either. Good eh!"

[Northern Sold]

"Anyone seen the now OSCAR winning doc' 20 days in Mariupol?? Probably won't sit very well with a few on here with their narrative ... but I spose they can always throw in the Ivan viewpoint of planted amputees, non pregnant women pretending to be pregnant and the Ukraine throwing missiles into their own residential areas and hospitals just to make Mighty Russian Bear look bad.... anyway brilliant bit of film making https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H_Fg_5x4ME"

[Capitol Man]

"Because it’s their country perhaps Bovine - even the Russian-speaking parts of Ukraine don’t want to be part of Putin’s fascist empire. And the responses are comical - you get it pointed out that you are repeating ridiculous rooskie narratives - the response, repeat them again and stomp your foot a little harder. Chicken-Little - the flow of cheap Russian gas ended when Russia invaded and started slaughtering people. That doesn’t change until Putin goes and Russia goes back to its own country and stops butchering people in others. Two mild winters and storage levels looking healthy means they are going to come down even more through the summer once they run out of places to put it."

[riosleftsock]

"If they are just two provincial towns, why did Ukraine fight so hard for them (especially considering they were full of majority russian speaking people) and why did Cookies Nuland ""retire""?"

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Anything up to 60,000 dead personnel and billions of dollars worth of spend to capture tow provincial towns that practically no longer exist. And there’s something apparently wrong with the EU. You’re fucking off your rocker."

[riosleftsock]

"Ah, this is the new definition of ""democracy"" I assume, as chanted in mantra form by EU loons. I'm not into this or international rules based order or EU values as they all have one thing in common, utter bullshit."

[Hammer and Pickle]

It’s perfectly clear what it means to anyone capable of properly participating in a democracy.

[riosleftsock]

"Is that it? ""No democratic nation would tolerate a government responsible for anything remotely like it"" What does that even mean? Which nation and government are you referring to? To be honest, I don't see many countries in the world that genuinely uphold real democratic principles (with the possible exception of Switzerland - in theory)"

[Hammer and Pickle]

"So many wasted words devoted to the Kremlin cause, Spambottroll 2. Yet so little real military gain and at what cost. No democratic nation would tolerate a government responsible for anything remotely like it. Yet these are supposed to be military victories according to you. Absolutely risible."