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Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui
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Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
"Nolan has a far more important role than either of your 2 realise, I'd hazard a guess. He's the bridge between the players and the coaching team."
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Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
"Nolan needs to stay, who will put the cones out ?"
Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
"The issue with soucek is that unless he gets a goal he generally contributes very little. His ball retention stat is shocking. Didn't we have a game once where he (as a central midfielder) touched it 8 times and lost it 6 of those? His biggest issue however is that he's been shoehorned in above players that would be much better. How many times has paquetta, alvarez or jwp amongst others been left out in order to give him the full ineffective 90 minutes? Squad player? No problem. 1st name on the teams here as he has been for 3 years regardless of form? No"
- Lee Trundle
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Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
Admiral Lard 11:11 Tue May 21 It wouldn't surprise me to see Nolan and Valero stay on. Neither of those were Moyes's appointments.
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Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
"Hopefully we gat confirmation of this appointment today, then we can get on and sort transfers and do things in a timely manner for a change! As to Soucek, I just don’t get why some are so critical of him, time and again he pops up with a crucial goal, always gives 100%, granted some of his passing and awareness is poor at times but not all the time? Be very surprised if Lopi doesn’t use him in the starting 11 or wants him shipped out."
- Massive Attack
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Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
"No because I want to keep Soucek in the ""Squad"". I'm not asking for him to start, I want him as decent back-up and that he has heavily contributed in the past to our best points tally/6th/7th/9th finish as a Defensive Midfielder. That's my argument you're repeatedly missing."
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Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
Soucek is fundamental to the shit current way we play. We want to change that and Soucek will become redundant in the new way we want to play. But I guess the new manager will judge on whether he can be a part of it.
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Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
"Is it fair to assume none of the current back room staff will remain once J-Lo gets into his new office? No more Kevin Nolan, Billy McKinlay, Jon Heitinga, Mark Robson et al?"
Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
"Massive Attack - You can't see it can you, all the arguments you're making for Soucek are the ones you're disagreeing on about Moyes, 6th 7th blah blah. Bloke is a good finisher but he holds us back, isn't great at breaking up play at all cause doesn't get close enough.. Yeah he wins some headers but headers we probably don't have to defend without him because his inclusion enables the other team to have more of the ball which is a trait of Moyesball which you hate. He's a decent bloke and gives everything but his everything isn't enough."
Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
"Massive Attack - You can't see it can you, all the arguments you're making for Soucek are the ones you're disagreeing on about Moyes, 6th 7th blah blah. Bloke is a good finisher but he holds us back, isn't great at breaking up play at all cause doesn't get close enough.. Yeah he wins some headers but headers we probably don't have to defend without him because his inclusion enables the other team to have more of the ball which is a trait of Moyesball which you hate. He's a decent bloke and gives everything but his everything isn't enough."
- Massive Attack
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Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
"He hasn't just scored some goals, he's scored a lot of goals 27 in the League/32 overall - and assisted 7/11 in all competitions - with most of them coming in the Premier League. He doesn't just win a fee blocks either, endlessly breaking up play, winning everything in the air and bravely putting his body on the line like no other not seen since Billy Bonds getting hurt as much as he has been, yet rarely misses matches through injury. You can't be that good in front of goal (not relying on scoring penalties), that good in the air, that fully committed with a top class attitude to boot and been a mainstay in the side since arriving that instantly coincided with keeping us up, helping us finishing 6th, then 7th and 9th in the League without being a good Premier League Midfielder. There's no argument from me about his lack of quality on the ball with passing as it is generally poor, but that doesn't negate all his other qualities when scoring, assisting, winning the ball back which are very important in the round when evaluating what he brings to the Team resulting in us achieving our best ever Premier League points tally with him at the heart of the Team and that was without the likes of Paqueta, Kudus, Alvarez around him at the time. A player also with decent winning pedigree in Europe, even manging to score twice in 6 Champions League games for Slavia Prague including against Inter Milan and Borussia Dortmund. We'd be mad to lose his qualities from our Squad with all his experience and bang on attitude at 29 and no that doesn't mean I'd start him every game like Moyes blindly did either just that there's definitely a use for him within our Squad."
- Hammer and Pickle
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Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
"The irony is Moyes laughably relied on Soucek in a defensive role; he refused to address it when it became apparent it was a terrible mistake two years ago, hence in part our tendency to ship so many goals. But Soucek does have a role and I expect him making an impact coming on in cup ties and other games where his height and eye for goal will be of value."
Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
"The only other team Soucek gets in is Sheff Utd A truly awful footballer, as said.... lovely bloke. Shouldnt be anywhere near our first team when he is so incapable of getting on the ball and passing it"
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Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
"Massive Attack 4:16 Tue May 21 Soucek is to Premier League playing, what Moyes is to Premier League managing. You can't in one breath go on about Moyes in the way you do, then defend Soucek in another. Yes, he's scored some goals and got some blocks in, but come on, he is fucking hopeless with the ball at his feet in the engine room. He is to pass and move what Moyes is to... pass and move. I hope we get rid. Quick."
- Massive Attack
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Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
"Souceks apparently not a Premier League Midfielder and yet he's scored 27 times (some being absolute top drawer finishes like that left footed volley outside the box recently) and made 7 other assists in 159 appearances in the League. All whilst being a mainstay in the Team with the primary role as a Defensive Midfielder that breaks play up well helping us to achieve 3 top 9 finishes in the League. By all means cսnt his dodgy passing off and will struggle to keep pace with playing more progressive possession based Football but he deserves more respect than to say he ain't a Premier League Midfielder. His overall contribution to this Club in the League, as well as in Europe has been excellent, although limited on the ball. I think it would be daft to not at least keep him amongst the Squad even if used as a very useful Plan B when the possession based game isn't working out so well to begin with, which it won't. Definitely keep."
- Takashi Miike
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Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
"he clearly didn't enjoy ten men behind the ball (even in qfs), the team never having the fucking ball and a two tiered dressing room where his favourites play every game no matter how shit they are. you fucking idiot"
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Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
"Phall Throw Real fans? Are you some sort of cսnt? You wanted him out more than any other manager? You clearly don‚Äôt enjoy top 10 finishes, European qualification and winning a trophy. How long have you supported the club? 3 or 4 years? Fucking idiot."
Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
"Too old,to small,too inbalanced....yet still finished 9th,well if that's the case Moyes has performed a miracle...proves he's a good manager lol"
Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
"This cսnt signed yet? Gonna be a transition season either way, the jock cսnt has left us with a fucking awful squad moving forward and gonna need a huge overall. Too old, to small, too imbalanced. Hopefully a few of the kids can step up I'm interested in seeing young pots, wouldn't mind downes back as he's done a superb job at saints. And hopefully steidten got his eye on a few. But gonna take a time to bed them in."
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Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
"The one sign for me that we are changing styles, will be the early sale of Mr Tomas Soucek. Lovely bloke, but not a premier league midfielder, and definitely not a midfielder who can play high press or fast transition."
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Re: Welcome to West Ham United Julen Lopetegui !!!
"Nutjob It is YOUR lot of the oh so great MOYSEIAH that is the 'fringe' Real fans understood the direction the club was going in under his 'leadership' His 'leadership' would have seen us in places 8th and below, maybe flirting with relegation and throwing cup competitions as well as totally ignoring youth that are ready to make the step up whilst persisting in his dinosaur tactics because WINNING IS WHAT HE DOES FWIW I have never been so glad to see a manager go and in that list are the likes of Grant and Zola"