Corrupt officiating

[maverick180]

"A point that seems to of been missed Antonio’s goal could not be seen from any angle whether it definitely came off his stomach or his arm, therefore should never have been disallowed However VAR made the decision to straight up disallow it Souceks goal definitely could be seen to strike his arm, that was the one that was the correct decision However, VAR called over the ref this time to make the decision Does nobody else find that highly suspicious? For me that is what someone would do who’s already made a bent decision and not trying to further put themself in the spotlight"

[only1billybonds]

"Maverick. Cowardice, incompetence and arrogance are the 3 biggest factors in this whole fiasco. Not sure if that counts as corruption as such. Surely at least one person has to be benefitting for any system to be corrupt. Surely the natural conclusion to all this talk of corruption has to be match fixing because that's what it amounts to if true (which I believe it isn't)"

[Far Cough]

Apparently the Soucek one was the longest VAR check in premier league history? Clear and obvious my fucking hairy arse.

[maverick180]

"So most people seem to think there’s no corruption I disagree with that, my opinion is that there is, whether that’s money driven, or just down to their own bias or ego, I feel these people are deliberately not doing their jobs properly The fact is no one can know 100% what the truth is The biggest problem I have with that is that there’s nothing in place to stop anything dodgy from happening If someone on VAR makes a terrible mistake an apology is issued and that’s it If an official was being paid off to try and get a specific result how would anyone know the difference when there’s no deterrent And before someone says going to prison would be the deterrent, I’d argue that would never happen when there’s nothing in place to ever investigate a string of dodgy decisions"

[twoleftfeet]

"VAR is destroying football. You can no longer celebrate a goal, I was at the airport when my phone indicated we had scored in the 94th minute but I didn’t celebrate knowing it would be reviewed and dissected. I checked my phone 5 minutes later and that fucking “ VAR “ message was flashing next to our name, it’s so fucking frustrating. I loathe modern football and the shit fucking referees who can’t make their own fucking decisions."

[Northern Sold]

`How does rugby get it so right and football so wrong`? ... and that's with 8 more players on the field.... I watch a lot of Rugby... i'd say the officials get 99.9% of the calls right once it goes to video... OK Scotland can feel a bit hard done by this year in the 6N's v France but apart from that I can't think of a call that has caused shit... world cup seemed the same... the majority of the decisions that got reviewed I don't think too many people complained... yet VAR is literally a toss of a coin... they are guessing... they 100% guessed over Antonios goal yesterday... there was no 100% conclusive evidence that the ball had brushed an arm... it might have done yes... but NO concrete evidence... the last min goal I have no complaints.... apart from it took them an hour to come to the correct decision.

[Northern Sold]

`How does rugby get it so right and football so wrong`? ... and that's with 8 more players on the field.... I watch a lot of Rugby... i'd say the officials get 99.9% of the calls right once it goes to video... OK Scotland can feel a bit hard done by this year in the 6N's v France but apart from that I can't think of a call that has caused shit... world cup seemed the same... the majority of the decisions that got reviewed I don't think too many people complained... yet VAR is literally a toss of a coin... they are guessing... they 100% guessed over Antonios goal yesterday... there was no 100% conclusive evidence that the ball had brushed an arm... it might have done yes... but NO concrete evidence... the last min goal I have no complaints.... apart from it took them an hour to come to the correct decision.

[Mike Oxsaw]

"What on earth will people do with all that ""dead time"" waiting for VAR to come up with their ruling?"

[Willtell]

"Football grew and prospered for 150 years in UK but I fear for it when bureaucratic officials start dictating new rules. The rules were always sensible in that accidental ball to arm was not a foul. If the ref and linesman doesn't see it, it didn't happen. The trouble then becomes referees that make inconsistent penalising of that rule. It's now so ridiculous where officials don't see a handball so 5 minutes of replays on tv gets a decision that is just as contentious but spoils the flow of the game. How does rugby get it so right and football so wrong?"

[Manuel]

"Pedro - Sure, in the last world cup var barely featured. It does seem to be a huge clusterfuck in the PL."

[Pedro]

Manuel agreed The antonio one was a case in point Martinez pretended to be hurt as to create need to check the goal. Then amazingly the review is for a handball and not a foul. They look for any reason not to give a goal. You can probably find a reason to disallow every goal now if you wanted to. The premier league also don’t pay for the semi automated systems we see in europa and also the World Cup. It’s much quicker and removes the human element. Issue yesterday was you probably had the ref and 4 var people all having different opinions. I bet half the var people thought the goals should have been given. Then next week we will see goals given for the same thing. That’s the frustration.

[Pedro]

The one very strange thing was why the ref was sent the screen only for the last minute goal. I thought he had to look at all decisions other than offside? If not then there is a question mark as to who is actually reffing the game. The handball law seems to change every week and isn’t it different rules in different boxes. Anyway what annoys me is they have had to change rules to suit var. they say who it’s the rules. But the rules are different now we have var. so instead of deliberate handball we have this natural position / ball to hand nonsense.

[Manuel]

"When the late goal went it I didn't move, you just knew among that melee there was bound to either be a handball, an offside, or a foul. When watching all the replays I felt it was 50/50 as nothing seemed 'clear and obvious' but of course they were determined to rule it out, I suspect they see it as their job to do so."

[Willtell]

It's not often I say this but absolutely correct BRANDED. I think it's just a microcosm of UK life. Good idea fucked up by officials too up their own arses to get it right with rugby showing the way...

[BRANDED]

Before VAR we’ve won that game. I dont think its corrupt. Just poor in every metric. He gets the decision “wrong” and then the Var officials dont have absolute clarity. Just poor. In the ground its soul destroying.

[Iron Duke]

"The problems with VAR are that it often takes too long and kills the game, and that it is very selective about which incidents to review, for how long, and from how many angles. Take the disallowed Soucek goal. It must have taken five minutes and they looked at more angles until they could find one that backed their final decision. It was as if they scoured the crowd looking for people’s iphone coverage. Then, other times they somehow don’t have any other angles. On top of that, the media are very selective on what they report. The Burnley handball last week hardly got a mention, but every media outlet reported how Emerson was lucky not to give away a penalty for handball. One hadball decision out of six goes for us and that is the one they want to talk about."

[maverick180]

"Turns out I was wrong in the sense that the ref actually wanted to take a look for himself So before you start telling me how you know the rules better than me and I should brush up on it, perhaps you should take your own advice and realise you don’t understand them yourself as VAR was telling the ref no goal I was wrong So are you, doubt you’ll admit that though"

[maverick180]

Don‚Äôt tell me what to do you self righteous cսnt

[Manuel]

"Man, you need to get out more, embarrassing post. Cony Tottee explains it well in the first reply, that's the difference between you and him, he understands the rules and you don't. Brush up a bit, before before unleashing with this nonsense."

[percyd]

"There has to be a time-limit imposed on the VAR/screen viewing process. 30 secs for VAR with an additional 30 if the ref needs to look at the screen. In terms of 'goals', if an offence cannot be determined within that time frame, then it is obviously not ""clear and obvious""."

[onsideman]

"Antonio 'goal' hit his elbow Soucek 'goal' put in with his arm (after an air-shot) Kudus 'goal' whistle blew before the shot, so no VAR. Looked like a poor decision to me, but Gillet is hopeless anyway"

[maverick180]

"Nothing to do with feeling hard done by I see it week in, week out in other matches that don’t involve just West Ham If it’s not corruption then it’s down to complete and utter incompetency The problem is there’s nothing in place to stop this Until there’s some sort of accountability for these officials making mistakes on VAR where they have zero excuse I’m not gonna be convinced there isn’t more to it"

[only1billybonds]

"Nothing to do with corruption. VAR has given officials the green light to be absolved of on field resonsibility, coupled with the gross incompetence of those viewing the 'incidents' All this talk of corruption is bollox. Surely, if there were ' hot balls' in cup draws, Liverpool would have played Coventry and Manchester United would have been home to Leicester?. Stop feeling hard done by and see the situation for what it is."

[maverick180]

The purpose would obviously be money Who’s behind it? No idea I’ve no idea who was behind paying Bruce Grobelaar or Hans Segers to try and throw games in this country but it happened I’ve no idea who was behind paying officials in other countries to get the desired result they wanted but again it has happened Officials in this country are never investigated no matter how bizarre the decisions they make are Don’t know why people are so sure it doesn’t happen here

[maverick180]

SPECTRE

[norwaytips]

"Corrupt? Really: and who do you think was paying for, or organising this corruption: and for what purpose?"