Anxiety/depression

[Tomshardware]

"Been through bad time lately with suffering with this. Dark thoughts as well. I know some posters on here suffer with this. Anyone come through the other side of this shit?

"A number of posters have been yellow carded and told to stay off this thread unless they have anything constructive to add.This is a thread that has been very useful to so many, for any other posters with scores to settle, argue on another thread. This thread is sacrosant.Thank you"

[Lee Trundle]

"""They arrived on time on Sunday my boy like many Thais is a Liverpool fan."" I hope you got in is face after we beat them, '67! (only joking - happy for you that they're all here)"

[Westham67]

Its been a knackering 2 days. They arrived on time on Sunday my boy like many Thais is a Liverpool fan. They looked so young my paternal instinct kicked in and I have gone into protective mode. I was ready to land one on a bloke who looked a bit moody near my boy

[angryprumphs]

"mashed in maryland 3:34 Mon Nov 8 To be honest, I might just be a bit touchy because i have just come out of the other end of this shit and it is still very raw. I cant believe the bloke I changed into from the one I was, I was chairmen of the local round table, was a local apprenticeship ambassador, I thought i was bullet proof. Yes the shit that I had to deal with was hardcore but not sure that means anything, once it gets you, if gets you and it doesnt want to let go. it also DOES NOT understand reason at all. From the outside I had everything, two lovely kids, great job, nice wife, big 5 bed house..... inside I had fuck all. So no worries, I dont have any grudges on here (ok mayby one or two), and dont plan to start now. Just here to support fellow Hammers on there journey to beat the black dog."

[Block]

"Tom, it's hard work - as every day I'm not at work I'm looking after the baby. So get no time to myself and he's at the age where he's on the move, so it's non stop all day. Throw into it lack of sleep, and you're onto a recipe for disaster."

[Tomshardware]

"Block, I'm in the same boat in regards to work sharing and child care duties. I find it difficult at times as well."

[mashed in maryland]

"angryprumphs 11:48 Thu Nov 4 Not here to bicker, but just to clarify, there was a reason I said ""a lot of"" and not ""all of"". I don't think we disagree at all."

[Block]

"Overbuyer, you haven't offended me, you've just come across as a bit of a cսnt, to be honest. If you had read my post, you'd have seen that the reason I had a break down was because not only am I massively sleep deprived, I've gone from being a working dad to being a working and stay at home dad, whilst the wife has gone to work. As I rely heavily on a routine, this has completely thrown me out, add into it a sick child and lack of sleep = the break down."

[Block]

"Overbuyer, you haven't offended me, you've just come across as a bit of a cսnt, to be honest. If you had read my post, you'd have seen that the reason I had a break down was because not only am I massively sleep deprived, I've gone from being a working dad to being a working and stay at home dad, whilst the wife has gone to work. As I rely heavily on a routine, this has completely thrown me out, add into it a sick child and lack of sleep = the break down."

[Pentonville]

Westham67 today is the day right? üôå

[angryprumphs]

"Westham67 7:16 Sat Nov 6 18 hours, love the way you are counting it down, man cant even comprehend how excited you must be"

[Westham67]

Overbyyer . Thanks for you positive contribution I'm sure block will let you know if you have unintentionally upset him. Rational and mental iliness/ depression doesn't apply. I have my second 2 hour appointment with a clinical psychologicist on Monday .It's all 4 years late that's why itsunami all happening so quickly Inshalah I see my kids for the first time for 2 and a half years in 18 hours they both have jobs to start.

[angryprumphs]

"overbyyer 7:11 Sat Nov 6 Sorry, dont mean to be a tosser, sure you had the best intentions and I might well be over reacting."

[overbyyer]

I think I'll bale out - last thing I want to do is antagonize anyone. Good luck to you all.

[angryprumphs]

"""Help me out here, I'm struggling to understand what in that scenario has made you break down?"" - Could be Dont worry Block, shame you have hit a bit of a bump but you have got this, focus on where you have got too and all the positive things in your life. - then list all the positives (see the difference?) One thing you need to remember with people that are depressed, they will take ALL the negatives out of conversations."

[angryprumphs]

"Cool, just that language is important. About six months ago when i was is a really dark place, I dropped a plate, that was it a normal household plate, this lead me to storm out of my house and go sit in a field with my dog for three hours crying. The is no rhythm nor reason sometimes. A better way of addressing it would have not been questioning his right to have a breakdown but instead reinforcing the fact it is ok and THEN adding a BUT (outlining all the positives)"

[overbyyer]

"Selectively extracting parts of posts doesn't help either. I had no intention of derailing the thread and no offence was meant to Block, but I see no harm whatsoever in adding positivity to the scenario."

[angryprumphs]

"And I am taking offence for someone i have been talking to and have an idea about his situation. No problem, just dont think your comments were in any way helpful. Which is the goal of this thread."

[angryprumphs]

Closing down debate - Debate??? You want to debate whether or not people have the right to be depressed.....

[angryprumphs]

"Help me out here, I'm struggling to understand what in that scenario has made you break down? .... What you describe there is a typical, modern family scenario for many - only working four days a week puts you in a better position than a lot out there ..... Perhaps in the spirit of positivity you should be thankful ..... All these thing show you havent got a clue about depression and how to deal with it. This thread is for support not for questioning whether someone has the right to have a breakdown."

[overbyyer]

*and unhelpful*

[overbyyer]

I'm not calling anyone out If you read the full context of my post I'm saying he's got all the bases covered and to look on the various aspects of the situation positively. Closing down debate and taking offence on behalf of others is unhealthy and helpful.

[angryprumphs]

"overbyyer 6:16 Sat Nov 6 You do realise this is the anxiety and depression thread? Not the place for calling people out. When you suffer with these conditions then sometimes putting your fucking shoes on isnt possible, let alone looking after kids. If you dont understand it, I would suggest you keep your comments off this thread."

[overbyyer]

*does* the same

[overbyyer]

"Block wrote... Re: Anxiety/depression ""Broke down last night, I'm absolutely shattered as I've taken more of a hands on role with the boy, I only work 4 days now so either at work or at home looking after him whilst the wifes at work."" Help me out here, I'm struggling to understand what in that scenario has made you break down? You work four days a week and take your turn when your wife is at work, presumably she dies the same when you are working? What you describe there is a typical, modern family scenario for many - only working four days a week puts you in a better position than a lot out there. Perhaps in the spirit of positivity you should be thankful you've got the bases covered and have an extra day off every week to help take up the strain. Save your break down for when number 2 and even number 3 come along....!"

[Mace66]

Yea it’s natural to over-worry first time round. It’s all pretty normal. We kicked off with twins and the stress levels were through the roof and beyond. When the 3rd came along it was a stroll. So much so it felt like he was looking after himself from a month old …. swt