Anxiety/depression

[Tomshardware]

"Been through bad time lately with suffering with this. Dark thoughts as well. I know some posters on here suffer with this. Anyone come through the other side of this shit?

"A number of posters have been yellow carded and told to stay off this thread unless they have anything constructive to add.This is a thread that has been very useful to so many, for any other posters with scores to settle, argue on another thread. This thread is sacrosant.Thank you"

[charleyfarley]

"This is from Mark who used to post on here, who wanted to share his experience with others in the hope that it may help. So pleased for him that he has moved forward with this, but as Mark as mentioned to me he is settled but knows deep down that things can turn to shit in a heartbeat so is more than realistic about his condition. Some useful advice from him that we hope may help others having difficulties Sorry to drop this on you mate as you probably aint got a clue who I am but I was a not so active member on who for a number of years but gave up posting about 7 or 8 years ago when I slowly descended into a complete mental breakdown,literally over the course of 2 to 3 months I fell apart mentally and emotionally it got to a point where I would find myself in tears for no reason in public with absolutely no control over it,imagine sitting in peckham job centre signing on in floods of tears and the guy signing you on is the person who tells you that you need to seek help, I honestly had no idea just how fucked I was until I tried to O/D on two occasions.Thankfully the second O/D was bad enough that I ended up in hospital and that’s where my long journey with various psychiatrists began and I really began to realise just how messed up i’d been for many years prior to my breakdown. Wow this feels long winded but I feel like sharing my experience with someone in the hope that it helps anyone of my west ham brothers who may be suffering some of the things I suffer from so I guess you’ll be my proxy if that’s ok as i’m not really up for rejoining Who just to have some idiot making fucked up comments about something they don’t understand and I end up losing it and doing something stupid. Ok i’ll try and keep this as short as possible as when you’ve been under different shrinks for 7 years you tend to have a long story so i’ll keep it brief. To begin with the first consultant psychiatrist I saw thought I was bi-polar but that wasn’t the case once he got some of my life story and over time I was diagnosed with a long list of disorders by various other psychiatrists,we’re talking about severe anxiety,depression,ptsd,mixed personality disorder,bouts of extreme psychosis to name but a few and to cap it all I was also diagnosed with adhd at almost 50 years old.I had numerous ECT sessions which are in no way as bad as people think but they only have a short term benefit and then your back to square one again so I ended up trying pretty much every anti psychotic and anti depressant on the market as well as mood stabilizers and a few other drugs for good measure just to find a balance where I could semi function thankfully over time i’ve half learned to cope with it all but something the psychiatrists never tell you for some reason is you’ll never be cured,this is something you have to live with for the rest of your life and i’d have trouble explaining that to someone who’s just started having psychiatric problems as I feel it would crush them knowing you just have to learn to live with it and try not to let it grind you down ,the shrinks always hit you with the “light at the end of the tunnel” bullshit and that’s just not true for some sadly,so I guess the best advice I could give to anyone who’s suffering on WHO is don’t let it rule your life and embrace it speaking from experience if you let it control you like I did for a few years you will end up desperate to end the suffering and end up being sectioned for your own safety which is not a good situation to be in,psych wards are not enjoyable places,they make prison look like a holiday camp. Ok I think i’ve rambled enough without going into great detail so in closing i’d like to just try and give some advice to those who are suffering,don’t make the same mistake I made by not seeking out help when I was clearly ill,don’t look at it as a stigma be open about it,talk to friends,family because sometimes just getting it off your chest can give you some relief and most important,if you feel that lifes not worth living and you contemplate doing something drastic contact your local psych crisis team and they will help you in any way they can,you may end up on a psych ward for a day or two but you’ll be alive when you get out and lastly as dumb as it sounds try and find a hobby that takes your mind into a different place,personally I got myself a ps5 and just spend hours playing games keep my mind away from any negative thoughts,yep I know 55 and playing video games but that’s my crutch and it works for me most of the time and when it doesn’t then you just have to tell yourself that you’ll be back to “normal” in a few days. Thanks for listening mate and even if one line of what i’ve written helps someone then that’s good enough for me. All the best brother"

[Westham67]

Thanks ted it was Tuesday just gone. My PIP phone assessment done was done by a paramedic so not too fussed with the line up I have behind me

[ted fenton]

Is that next Tuesday 67 ? If so everything crossed for you.

[ted fenton]

Is that next Tuesday 67 ? If so everything crossed for you.

[Westham67]

Thanks ted. I got a bit wobbly on Tuesday as my PIP claim is going the court of appeals but I used my CBT kit and just told myself I was tired and crashed out and woke up alright

[ted fenton]

Brilliant news 67 shows just how strong you really are !!!

[bruuuno]

One book that I can reccomend that could really change your life: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Power-Now-Guide-Spiritual-Enlightenment/dp/0340733500/ref=nodl_?dplnkId=0b0036cc-d7e6-4a18-9990-bf1a5fd9a553

[Westham67]

"Thanks gents, Tom yes I can recognise what the triggers are and then nip it in the bud rather than obsessing with negative thoughts spiralling into low mood and around and around we go"

[Willtell]

Excellent news 67.

[charleyfarley]

Well done 67 pleased for you mate

[Tomshardware]

"Well done 67, glad you've found CBT helpful. I still use some of the tools I learned from it. Like anything it takes practice."

[Westham67]

Thanks mate

[bruuuno]

"Glad to hear it 67 fella, onwards and upward"

[Westham67]

Discharged from treatment yesterday

[Westham67]

"Thanks mate she dis say I have done really well When I was diagnosed via triage for CBT I had emotional exhaustion, traumatised for the tsunami and the death and gore I seen working on railway, severe depression, anxiety disorder and low mood when the negative thoughts and obsessive thinking comes from I could not see the trees while I was in the woods with so much going on that you cannot single out one thing so its step by step I had the mother of sleeps on Sunday into Monday went to the gym Monday evening couldn't sleep went over the garage about 2am had a small Americano didn't sleep and worked on the till all afternoon in the shop"

[Pentonville]

"I am so happy it is working for you Westham67 and u certainly sound better when we talk but in my personal opinion CBT is a load of horsehit. Maybe I had a bad therapist but for me to read you say that in week 4 to 7 u realised that no sleep and caffiene was the reason for low mood thanks to CBT? I mean come on man no shit sherlock, some on here could have told you that! I wanna hear far more indepth diagnosis or awareness from CBT but there just didnt seem any for me. i will say though that i have noticed with u that you picked apart each problem u were having one at a time which has put u on a better path right? i suppose if CBT got you doing that then it needs a begrudging pat on the back from me! and maybe long term, u wont relapse cos it gave you the tools to deal with it whereas most likely ill be in the pits of despair in 12 months lol keep up the good work with your CBT but I think u need to give YOURSELF more credit for daggging urself back"

[Pentonville]

"I am so happy it is working for you Westham67 and u certainly sound better when we talk but in my personal opinion CBT is a load of horsehit. Maybe I had a bad therapist but for me to read you say that in week 4 to 7 u realised that no sleep and caffiene was the reason for low mood thanks to CBT? I mean come on man no shit sherlock, some on here could have told you that! I wanna hear far more indepth diagnosis or awareness from CBT but there just didnt seem any for me. i will say though that i have noticed with u that you picked apart each problem u were having one at a time which has put u on a better path right? i suppose if CBT got you doing that then it needs a begrudging pat on the back from me! and maybe long term, u wont relapse cos it gave you the tools to deal with it whereas most likely ill be in the pits of despair in 12 months lol keep up the good work with your CBT but I think u need to give YOURSELF more credit for daggging urself back"

[Westham67]

"I didn't know what CBT was until I read this thread. I have my 8th on last one on Friday. I got through everting one at time. I can only speak for myself being severely depressed, low mood only negative thoughts, anxiety , obsessive behaviour and nightmares its like being in a dark wood with no way out and its overwhelming and it seem like a mountain to climb but once it gets broken down into single issues to tackle one at a time which CBT did for me it becomes obvious what is triggering the issue. Severe depression 3 weeks to fix that I got somewhere to live and got ESA and then the anxiety, and negative thoughts which feeds low mood was week 4 to 7 where I realised it was no sleep and caffeine triggering it. Because I normalised and the nightmares stopped when I did have a nightmare I knew what was it food that conflicts with Sertraline"

[Westham67]

"I didn't plan to stop drinking it just happened. I inherited a condo in Doha on wrong the side of town where the only places to drink were the Hilton , Sheraton and big hotels full of people talking about money and themselves is wasn't a laugh it was boring. The Mrs was with the first time as well Once I had left Doha I had not had a beer or 9 months and I didn't see any benefits in starting again, It never crosses my mind to have a beer now"

[Manuel]

"Ox - Yea, I think most have their limits, or what should be their limit. Like yourself and lab, I enjoy a beer and will never give it up as I enjoy it and it relaxes me and makes life feel better for a while (which is the whole point I suppose) so see zero reasons why I should go without. Life is stressful enough as it is without going without a few beers a couple of times a week. I enjoy the social aside and never drink at home. There's a very good reason why people are happy in pubs. I'm a bit of a lightweight in terms of heavy drinking and find that if I have 4 pints I'm okay the next morning, but if I have 5 I wake up sore. Cheers."

[Mike Oxsaw]

"I've noticed a change in my drinking preferences - probably due to becoming an old git. Until I was about 45 it was generally ""neck as much as you can"", but after that - and I can't put a trigger on it, which is probably no hope whatsoever - I began to enjoy ""that last beer"" less and less, then the one before that, then the one before that, and so on. Got to the point where I was on 4 cans of beer (or what passed for beer, wherever I found myself) a day - or every other day, and my session were starting & finishing earlier. At some point I decided to make 4 cans per day my limit and if at a party or similar, intersperse those beers with one or two Soda Waters (or simply Perrier, if it was available). Turned out to be surprisingly easy, given that I'd loved beer since before I was legally allowed to drink it. Surprisingly easy for me, that is; quaffing peers often saw it as an affront to themselves, for some reason, but, as that was their problem, not mine, I could easily let it ride. Certainly not saying it was EASY, easy - I still sometimes get the urge to go out and hit the town, but have, so far, managed to resist that. Not sure my liver now would thank me for my sterling effort, in any case. It gets better/worse, depending on your point of view, but now, more often at not, if I have those 4 cans at home and start about 3pm, I wake up the next day with the 4th still more than half full, so buy the sink a drink - just to be sociable, like. I suspect that many of us were subject to those series of ""fun"" adverts for beer/lager whilst still at an impressionable age, and that's what set our drinking (spending) habits for the following 3 or 4 decades."

[lab]

"Ted’s a good chappie . Gave me advice on drinking via Whomail. At 62 I’m still drinking too much , 4 pints a day , which I’m sure will catch up with me . It’s a hard one , I don’t drink coz I’m down or bored I just love a few beers in the afternoon ."

[Westham67]

Its good ted is posting this on here as it shows what drinking too much for too long can do you it may make some posters change their habits I lost a very good friend from alcohol abuse died of a cardiac arrest in his early 50s RIP Frank

[Manuel]

"gilmore - A very cliched thing to say, even if it's probably true in some cases, but you would much prefer to be rich and depressed over poor and depressed, that's a fucking gimme."

[Manuel]

"gilmore - A very cliched thing to say, even if it's probably true in some cases, but you would much prefer to be rich and depressed over poor and depressed, that's a fucking gimme."